Ticked-Off Trannies With Knives

  • NickoftheNort...

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    Mar 25, 2010 7:49 PM GMT
    Joe.My.God. has a blogpost on a new independent film, Ticked-Off Trannies With Knies, that has received condemnation from Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD). The GLAAD complaint is against the portrayal of transgendered persons through the form of drag queens.

    Now, I know that transgendered persons are not the same as drag queens, but this movie is clearly going for an over-the-top revenge flick that puts the drag queen characters in the position of vengeful protagonists. It's not representative of the more moderate members of the trans community, but does it have to be so? The argument by GLAAD reminds me of the divide within the gay community between flamboyant ("fem") gay men and retrained ("masc") gay men and the complaints that portrayals of the former are detrimental to the latter.

    Here's the trailer Joe.My.God. has in the blogpost:

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    Mar 25, 2010 8:00 PM GMT
    I was shocked how they were using facts of actual deaths for a fictional movie, but maybe it will empower trannies to not take shit from anyone.
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    Mar 25, 2010 9:17 PM GMT
    did someone say tickity tack tranny...

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    Mar 25, 2010 9:50 PM GMT
    Douchette Instructions (this was on the -you might be interested in- area after the trailer you posted Nick). Tres useful, thought I would post this.

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    Mar 25, 2010 9:53 PM GMT
    OMG! The guy (girl) on the left of that clip of Ticked Off Trannies is Willam Belli. His blog is about the funniest thing I've read in a while. Brilliant! icon_lol.gif

    http://itaintwilliam.blogspot.com/

    ALL of his posts are funny as hell, but this one will give you a great introduction to his brand of humor:

    http://itaintwilliam.blogspot.com/2009/10/profiles-in-greatness-popper-claus.html

  • EricLA

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    Mar 25, 2010 10:04 PM GMT
    Having worked at GLAAD, I know of at least two trans members of GLAAD's staff who are particularly offended by this film. Just because it's over-the-top, doesn't mean it excuses the portrayals. It's easy for us as non-trans people not to be offended.

    Portrayals of lesbians and gays are pretty commonplace these days. But, there was a time, not that long ago, when we were pretty invisible. And when we were portrayed, it was primarily as a stereotype and/or a victim. There weren't a lot of positive depictions. Even today, a gay character with as rich a sexual life as straight characters is pretty rare. We are yet to be fully realized.

    It would be one thing if there were a ton of trans characters on TV and the movies today, where a stereotypical or over-the-top depiction would just be part of the mix, but that's not the case. It's not unlike the early depictions of blacks as portrayed in movies, generally in demeaning ways. Were these over the top? Yes. Does that give them a pass? No.
  • NickoftheNort...

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    Mar 26, 2010 12:14 AM GMT
    EricLA saidHaving worked at GLAAD, I know of at least two trans members of GLAAD's staff who are particularly offended by this film. Just because it's over-the-top, doesn't mean it excuses the portrayals. It's easy for us as non-trans people not to be offended.

    Portrayals of lesbians and gays are pretty commonplace these days. But, there was a time, not that long ago, when we were pretty invisible. And when we were portrayed, it was primarily as a stereotype and/or a victim. There weren't a lot of positive depictions. Even today, a gay character with as rich a sexual life as straight characters is pretty rare. We are yet to be fully realized.

    It would be one thing if there were a ton of trans characters on TV and the movies today, where a stereotypical or over-the-top depiction would just be part of the mix, but that's not the case. It's not unlike the early depictions of blacks as portrayed in movies, generally in demeaning ways. Were these over the top? Yes. Does that give them a pass? No.

    Would this film have been more acceptable if it was called Dangerous Drag Queens With Daggers? Does drag fit within a subset of trans identity, or is it fully separate from being transgendered?

    Is GLAAD working to produce or promote films that feature trans identity more in the light it itself wants?

    How many of our earlier depictions of gay men / lesbian women put them in roles where they struck back at their detractors / attackers?
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    Mar 26, 2010 12:27 AM GMT
    look_alive saidOMG! The guy (girl) on the left of that clip of Ticked Off Trannies is William Belli. His blog is about the funniest thing I've read in a while. Brilliant! icon_lol.gif

    http://itaintwilliam.blogspot.com/

    ALL of his posts are funny as hell, but this one will give you a great introduction to his brand of humor:

    http://itaintwilliam.blogspot.com/2009/10/profiles-in-greatness-popper-claus.html



    yes it is, love him!! and the other gurls i know in the video!!
  • EricLA

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    Mar 26, 2010 12:44 AM GMT
    NickoftheNorth said
    EricLA saidHaving worked at GLAAD, I know of at least two trans members of GLAAD's staff who are particularly offended by this film. Just because it's over-the-top, doesn't mean it excuses the portrayals. It's easy for us as non-trans people not to be offended.

    Portrayals of lesbians and gays are pretty commonplace these days. But, there was a time, not that long ago, when we were pretty invisible. And when we were portrayed, it was primarily as a stereotype and/or a victim. There weren't a lot of positive depictions. Even today, a gay character with as rich a sexual life as straight characters is pretty rare. We are yet to be fully realized.

    It would be one thing if there were a ton of trans characters on TV and the movies today, where a stereotypical or over-the-top depiction would just be part of the mix, but that's not the case. It's not unlike the early depictions of blacks as portrayed in movies, generally in demeaning ways. Were these over the top? Yes. Does that give them a pass? No.

    Would this film have been more acceptable if it was called Dangerous Drag Queens With Daggers? Does drag fit within a subset of trans identity, or is it fully separate from being transgendered?

    Is GLAAD working to produce or promote films that feature trans identity more in the light it itself wants?

    How many of our earlier depictions of gay men / lesbian women put them in roles where they struck back at their detractors / attackers?


    I'm not an expert on this by any means, so this is merely my take on the subject. Gender identity is a big area, and I'm sure you could find a diversity of opinions on this, but "drag" is generally considered recreational, or at least a secondary persona. It is something you don, so there's a choice in it. A drag persona is often done as a form of performance. Where as being trans is more at the heart of one's real, everyday identity, and I'd say involves the biological and physiological identity, or conflict with, than drag. So, I'll leave it to others to argue with whether drag is separate or a subset of transgender. If transgender is used as an umbrella term describing the transgression of gender norms, than drag certainly fits, but it is different than being trans.

    GLAAD is a non-profit. It does not command a budget that would allow it to make or produce films like this. Does it promote positive depictions of films, yes, of course. It is an advocacy organization.

    How many of our earlier depictions of gay men / lesbian women put them in roles where they struck back at their detractors / attackers? I'm sure there are others, but "The Living End" comes to mind, where two HIV-positive men go all Thelma & Louise.

    Here is the GLAAD Call to action. Have a read. http://www.glaad.org/calltoaction/032510