THIS IS WHY I POSTED THE FORUM ABOUT MASC MEN HATING FEM GAYS

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    Jan 23, 2008 7:44 AM GMT
    this was on my other realjock username, i "x"ed out of the convo too soon, before we were talking and i saw on his profile he said that he only wants to meet straight acting guys, i asked why he imed me cuz im a fem, (on my profile it says im a fem kind of guy) he asked me why i was a fem and i said that i was born that way. that was my personality form the start. he did not believe me and then i started to try to explain to him about the different kinds of gay men there are

    me: there are gay people that are masc
    me: and then there are fems
    wholden86: why dont u grow boobs and split ur dick
    in halve into a pussy
    me: whats is ur problem
    me: r u joking me
    me: why are you being so rude?!
    me: dont take ur anger out on me
    wholden86: cause ur a girl fem pussy wimp fag
    me: WTF?! im a human being thats what i am
    wholden86: no ur a freak
    me: just like you are, but u have some nasty side to
    you [ i was talking about him being a human being also, then got a little to carried away]
    me: what the !@#$
    wholden86: u mean what the fuck
    me: yeah i mean that
    me: but im not going to say that
    wholden86: why do u wanna act like a girl,
    wholden86: 'its just makes u look like a freak
    wholden86: i hate fem guys
    me: thats my personality, this is who i am
    me: this is the way i was BORN
    wholden86: no ur just inbred
    wholden86: probably is what i am guessing
    me: u guessed incorrectly
    wholden86: fuck off u mother fucking fem fag
    me: why are you so angry at gay fem guys, is it that
    you feel gays are looked at in a different light
    becuase of them than they should be?
    me: im not mad at you, i feel pitty for you
    wholden86: yes ur a freak
    wholden86: u fuck head
    wholden86: u looked like a quer
    wholden86: queer
    me: no im not, im a normal person
    me: then why did u message me?
    me: you imed me, i did not im you
    me: please answer that for me
    wholden86: just double checking
    wholden86: fuck off
    wholden86: see ya
    wholden86: go fuck a dick
    me: please, look at fems in a different light, you are
    being unfair to them
    wholden86: oh shut up, i hate fems.. my brother is a
    fem and we dont speak
    me: i think you dont like that gays have an image of
    always being fem, which is why you do hate fems,
    get to know someone [a fem] and then you will have
    openned your self up to a whole new group of gay
    people
    me: opened*
    wholden86: oh shut up.....
    me: i hope u think about what i said
    wholden86: i dont give a fuck... u drama quenn
    wanting to change the world
    wholden86: queen
    wholden86: fag
    wholden86: queer
    wholden86: pussy
    wholden86: bitch
    wholden86: cunt
    me: dont call me names, it wont do any good, im not
    a drama queen and if u got to know me, you would
    have seen that
    wholden86: dick licker
    wholden86: whatever.. fuck off, DONT message me
    back
    wholden86:
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!


    usually i would not do this, but this went over the edge, at least i think so, i just wanted to show people that i do have a reasonable side to my argument [many people did not think so, at least by the private messages that i got after i posted that]

    i hope my last post and this post changes your negative view of fem people into a much more positive one, or even just to give them a chance (of course im not talking about the people that never had a negative view of fem people to begin with] =D


    p.s. please forgive me for any spelling/ proof reading mistakes i have made, im horrible at looking over my work =D
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    Jan 23, 2008 8:13 AM GMT
    icon_eek.gif

    For a second there... I thought you were talking to a straight homophobe.
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    Jan 23, 2008 8:14 AM GMT
    he and his brother have probably been abused as a child or raped by their dad, poor thing icon_cry.gif
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    Jan 23, 2008 9:07 AM GMT
    but to be taken in all seriousness... i am stunned by what happened to me tonight icon_eek.gif
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    Jan 23, 2008 9:41 AM GMT
    In all seriousness? Whatever, you big poof...

    Ooh, but I'm controversial

  • dhinkansas

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    Jan 23, 2008 4:06 PM GMT
    I know this is a serious post, but colmdublin used the word "poof" and I'm sorry, I can't help it. The word poof makes me chuckle.
  • cowboyupnorth

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    Jan 23, 2008 5:34 PM GMT
    JW097

    I would hope that he could be kicked off the site for discrimination and harassment. I would most likely not date a fem but I would not even be friends with that guy. He has larger issues then not liking fems he still does not like himself, that happens from living a lie. I am sorry you have to deal with such ignorance and discrimination. Trust me not all gays that are not fem hate fems. We are all different and not by choice, how can I hope to be accepted if I do not accept others. I hope you feel support from members of this site. Maybe this guy will read the forums and learn to let go of hate. I send you positive thoughts and energy, may your day brighten.
  • ShawnTX

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    Jan 23, 2008 5:44 PM GMT
    I just checked out this guys profile, and he obviously has some serious issues. Issues about homosexuality and in particular about him being gay. He's looking for someone who acts straight in public.

    News flash - you're a fag...deal with it!!!

    He sees something in you that he doesn't like about himself, namely, his sexual orientation. Probably for him, fem guys represent a life that for him he cannot fully accept yet. Their sexuality is there for the world to see, they're out and they're comfortable with it. He probably wishes for the same thing, yet is too scared and emotionally unable to take that step.

    That however does not excuse his behaviour. I would have sympathy for him if it wasn't for how he spoke to you.
  • TexanMan82

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    Jan 23, 2008 5:58 PM GMT
    First of all, why did you even continue the conversation once it turned abusive?

    And why do you care what some stranger from Mississippi has to say?
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    Jan 23, 2008 6:25 PM GMT
    wow, that is one crazy IM session. Props for you to try and reason with him. He has got some major issues if he can be that angry over an IM session. And on the issue of Masc vs Fem, I think no one person is all masc or all fem, we are all layers. I think its about learning to respect each other and not tear each other down for our differences.
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    Jan 23, 2008 6:57 PM GMT
    colmdublin saidIn all seriousness? Whatever, you big poof...

    Ooh, but I'm controversial

    you big poof???? ... icon_eek.gif ... Is that allowed on here? I dont think a member should have to endure THAT on THIS site. Anti-gay slang on a gay site?
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    Jan 23, 2008 7:17 PM GMT
    There are jerks in any group of people. Just because one is gay, doesn't mean he has no prejudice.

    The question is, is all prejudice wrong?
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    Jan 23, 2008 10:03 PM GMT
    MOVE ON!
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    Jan 23, 2008 11:45 PM GMT
    colmdublin saidIn all seriousness? Whatever, you big poof...

    Ooh, but I'm controversial



    maybe u should be best friends with that guy then . . . u seem to have the same feelings about me
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    Jan 23, 2008 11:46 PM GMT
    TexanMan82 saidFirst of all, why did you even continue the conversation once it turned abusive?

    And why do you care what some stranger from Mississippi has to say?


    i was hoping to change his mind
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    Jan 24, 2008 8:01 AM GMT
    CaslonAnti-gay slang on a gay site?


    My thoughts exactly. LOL

    This is just... sad.

    If we can't even be accepting within ourselves, why do we even expect to be accepted in the straight mainstream?

    We're all FAGS, ferchrissakes! icon_rolleyes.gif

    And JW097, sorry, but you can't change those kinds of people. You should have cut off the convo once it started turning abusive.
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    Jan 24, 2008 12:48 PM GMT
    I was being facetious, mes chers. Do try and maintain some degree of perspective. Hysteria is just silly.
  • cowboyupnorth

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    Jan 24, 2008 3:13 PM GMT
    colmdublin saidI was being facetious, mes chers. Do try and maintain some degree of perspective. Hysteria is just silly.


    colmdublin I do not know you and maybe I am out of line but...The big poof statement was still in bad taste. When I read it I thought WTF but then thought I had to be reading it wrong. I did not take it as funny,supportive, encouraging, empowering,etc. nor did it sit right with me.
    Not only are you insensitive to a man asking for support, you then blame the victim, with the hysteria statement. It might be best to just apologize and not be defensive.
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    Jan 24, 2008 4:00 PM GMT
    Pshaw
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Jan 24, 2008 10:26 PM GMT
    I take issue with Sedative14's "We're all FAGS, ferchrissakes! " comment.

    I for one, am not a FAG. I'm gay, but not a FAG. As I have said before in another thread, if you or anyone else want to insult yourselves, then fine, but don't refer to all of us gay men, with comments like that. I have a little bit more respect for myself than that.

    Mike
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    Jan 24, 2008 11:16 PM GMT
    MikePhil saidI take issue with Sedative14's "We're all FAGS, ferchrissakes! " comment.

    I for one, am not a FAG. I'm gay, but not a FAG. As I have said before in another thread, if you or anyone else want to insult yourselves, then fine, but don't refer to all of us gay men, with comments like that. I have a little bit more respect for myself than that.

    Mike


    Thank you... Im glad Im not the only one who feels that way.

    I take more offense being called a fag by a gay guy than by an actual homophobe, you should know better.


    As per the OPs position... The reason most "masc" guys are afraid of feminine guys is because they're not secure with themselves, its the exact same as when a straight guy looks down on a gay guy.

    Don't EVER let some asshole like that make you feel bad about yourself.

    I hate people who try to judge everyone. If you can't accept someone else for who they are, just dont talk to them.
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    Jan 25, 2008 4:06 AM GMT
    I don't like the word "fag" either. Heck, I'm not even "gay". I'm just a KWEEEEEyah, thats all.
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    Jan 25, 2008 5:33 AM GMT
    Never mind...
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    Jan 25, 2008 7:34 AM GMT
    MikePhilI take issue with Sedative14's "We're all FAGS, ferchrissakes! " comment


    I apologize. I too don't like the word. I've been known to flame straight people before in other forums for simple using the word 'Fag' and 'Gay' in a derogatory fashion.

    I was simply using the word to make a point. icon_redface.gif

    No matter how masculine you are, you're still gay. That's why a masc gay guy calling a effeminate gay guy 'fag' is just plain stupid.

    So again, I'm sorry if I offended anyone. icon_redface.gif That was not my intention.
  • Menergy_1

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    Jan 25, 2008 5:44 PM GMT
    I guess lots of guys I've known have pushed the envelope a bit by deliberately using "fag," "queer," "homo" etc. in references to themselves and friends -- in a friendly manner, however. Perhaps it's like the black community has evolved to allow its own to call or refer to themselves with the "nig" word - but otherwise it's derogatory and offensive coming from someone who is not black. So - will the gay community reach that point it can use the previously inflammatory words as affectionate terms about its own members?

    I took the "poof" comment above just as it was apparently meant -- in this context.