My mom is gonna be pissed

  • Space_Cowboy_...

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    Mar 28, 2010 8:33 PM GMT
    So I just moved to LA about 4 months ago and I still haven't gotten a car, so I decided to get a motorcycle and I just told my mom on FB I know she's gonna be super pissed, but hey she should have gotten me a car. icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 28, 2010 9:04 PM GMT
    lol I have my own Apt and pay all my own bills and buy all my own cloths and I pay for my University and all my book by myself. She and I have an agreement and she didn't keep up her end of the deal... well not yet and so I'm going to buy a crotch rocket.
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    Mar 28, 2010 9:05 PM GMT
    I smell the scent of "ENTITLEMENT" icon_confused.gif
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    Mar 28, 2010 9:17 PM GMT
    I'm not purposely getting one to piss her off it's just cheaper than a car
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    Mar 28, 2010 9:41 PM GMT
    lolz.....lil hommie made me laugh icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Mar 28, 2010 9:49 PM GMT
    Space_Cowboy_89 saidlol I have my own Apt and pay all my own bills and buy all my own cloths and I pay for my University and all my book by myself. She and I have an agreement and she didn't keep up her end of the deal... well not yet and so I'm going to buy a crotch rocket.


    Do you pay for your own bills, your apt, buy your own clothes, and pay for your tuition with money YOU EARNED YOURSELF, i.e. working, or with money your parents deposited into your bank account? -Because there is a huge difference between the two- the former actually declares your independence, while the latter does not.

    As for the motorcycle, they're fun but very dangerous to drive in a city like Los Angeles. When you've been here for a while you'll start to notice just how many 'life-altering' car crashes there are and how many involved SUVs.
  • FriscoJansen

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    Mar 28, 2010 9:52 PM GMT
    Yeah, your mom's more concerned with your safety. Be careful, especially in CA. I want a motorcycle myself. but I'm paying on my 08 Avenger. I always wanted one! I will get one in the future. Let us know what you got!
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    Mar 28, 2010 9:57 PM GMT
    We call them 'donorcycles' in the trauma bay.
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    Mar 28, 2010 9:59 PM GMT
    bryanc_74 saidWe call them 'donorcycles' in the trauma bay.


    Side-Topic:
    Are gay men allowed to donate organs? ....seeing as how we can't donate blood.
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    Mar 28, 2010 10:07 PM GMT
    A1EX saidAs for the motorcycle, they're fun but very dangerous to drive in a city like Los Angeles. When you've been here for a while you'll start to notice just how many 'life-altering' car crashes there are and how many involved SUVs.

    My thoughts exactly, as a licensed motorcyclist since 1966. I hope the OP already has riding experience on them, LA being especially dangerous as you note. And that he always wears a good, full-coverage helmet, and proper riding clothing.

    Taking the MSF course (Motorcycle Safety Foundation) is a real good idea, too, and many insurance companies offer premium discounts for doing it, plus taking a refresher course every 3 years. Getting every break on insurance may be needed, since the cost for a 20-year-old on a high-performance crotch rocket in LA will likely be staggering, much more than for a car. The money saved on buying the bike may be consumed on insurance.

    I always ride with the assumption that the 4-wheelers won't see me, will do really dumb stuff right in front of me. And sure enough, they never let me down, and I've learned to accept daily close calls as par for the course.
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    Mar 28, 2010 10:15 PM GMT
    Motorcycles freak me out, but be very careful. They are a lot more economic, but less forgiving in accidents. A couple of weeks ago a woman was killed on a motorcycle in a 3 car collision. Like someone said before wear a good helmet...not the chin-strappy thing.
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    Mar 28, 2010 10:23 PM GMT
    oh dear gawd no..... while I have no problems with a motorcycle I my self want one, don't you need a specific license for them like here in Australia? or are you talking about a scooter/moped??
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    Mar 28, 2010 10:25 PM GMT
    A1EX said
    bryanc_74 saidWe call them 'donorcycles' in the trauma bay.


    Side-Topic:
    Are gay men allowed to donate organs? ....seeing as how we can't donate blood.


    Yes they are. Well, in Canada at least. I'm not aware of any laws in the US that prevent gay organ donation though.
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    Mar 28, 2010 10:32 PM GMT
    Don't you need an endorsement?

    I did just what you did. No regrets really but a car is way more useful. I have had a couple close calls. Expect people to hit you.

    Seriously, though, the thrill will wear off. Ride safe.
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    Mar 28, 2010 10:35 PM GMT
    My mother called motorcycles "Death on two-wheels" when I was growing up.
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    Mar 28, 2010 10:43 PM GMT
    A1EX said
    bryanc_74 saidWe call them 'donorcycles' in the trauma bay.

    Side-Topic:
    Are gay men allowed to donate organs? ....seeing as how we can't donate blood.

    Being a donor in most US states can be imprinted on your driver's license, a sometimes tragically appropriate place for it. There is no place on a license that indicates your sexual orientation, and last time I had mine done as an organ donor, I don't recall being asked to state my orientation. That may vary by US state. Therefore, I would not expect anyone to know your orientation, since if your organs are being harvested, they won't be able to ask you about it.

    HOWEVER, there is a national database for blood donations, and I made the mistake of honestly answering the screening questions about my orientation. I was told my name and SSN were entered to prevent me from donating blood for the rest of my life. Now IF that database is referenced at the time my organs are harvested, perhaps in that way I could be rejected.

    The lesson I learned was to not admit I'm gay in certain circumstances, especially dealing with medical care. I chose my current GP because she treats gay men almost exclusively, so with her I can be completely frank. But when I use the government's VA system as a disabled veteran, I keep my orientation a secret. It's one of the reasons I stopped using the VA for most things, going private instead.
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    Mar 28, 2010 10:47 PM GMT
    Space_Cowboy_89 saidSo I just moved to LA about 4 months ago and I still haven't gotten a car, so I decided to get a motorcycle and I just told my mom on FB I know she's gonna be super pissed, but hey she should have gotten me a car. icon_lol.gif


    If i were ur mother, I'd be disappointed. :weird:


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    Mar 28, 2010 10:56 PM GMT
    lilTanker saidoh dear gawd no..... while I have no problems with a motorcycle I my self want one, don't you need a specific license for them like here in Australia? or are you talking about a scooter/moped??

    Yes, most US states require a motorcycle endorsement, for anything larger than a 49cc moped. Some require you to take a separate written test exclusively for a motorcycle, and some also require you to perform a riding demonstration on a bike.

    In Washington state, which has a very tough test, they also have different levels of endorsement, based on the engine size of the bike on which you're tested. Some years since I was tested there (1993) but I think the unlimited endorsement comes with bikes of 600cc and larger, which I had. But if you had the 250cc endorsement, for instance, it was illegal for you to ride a larger machine. Interestingly, sidecars were an additional special endorsement, on top of your motorcycle one.

    Most US states just issue you a new license when you relocate there, after you turn in the old license from your former state. But Washington would only recognize the motorcycle endorsement of a very limited number of other states, and not my Texas one I had at the time. So that's why I had to take a complete motorcycle driving test in 1993, for the first time since 1966. Of the 7 riders that morning, only 2 passed, including me, and I was the only one taking it for the first time. All the others were retaking the test after multiple failures, one guy failing for the 5th time. Tough test!
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    Mar 28, 2010 11:11 PM GMT
    Thanks guys.
    I thought they might have done something like that. (red cross)
    If they don't want my blood- they're not getting my organs either. icon_neutral.gif

    In Los Angeles, CA you actually HAVE to take the MSF course. They, the DMV, makes it impossible for you to get your endorsement otherwise. In my group there was a guy that had been riding for years, 15+, and continuously failed the exam. icon_eek.gif In addition to the course, you also have to take two multiple choice tests, one with the DMV and the other with the MSF.
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    Mar 29, 2010 12:01 AM GMT
    Yes, she will be pissed and rightfully so. My biology teacher used to call motorcyclists prime donors, cause they're usually young. PLEASE drive carefully and for heaven's sake, switch to a car as soon as you can afford one.
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    Mar 29, 2010 12:20 AM GMT
    oh nice, if you got the cojones for it, then do it. but do be smart aswell
  • EricLA

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    Mar 29, 2010 12:43 AM GMT
    Scary. Stay safe.
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    Mar 29, 2010 12:50 AM GMT

    Drive like an earthling and not a space cowboy on a bronco..... Best wishes!
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    Mar 29, 2010 12:54 AM GMT
    My experience is this, it's not ALWAYS the driver of the motorcycle but the drivers of cars/trucks who don't fully pay attention to when or IF there's a motorcycle present so JUST be careful!
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    Mar 29, 2010 12:59 AM GMT
    a1972guy saidMy experience is this, it's not ALWAYS the driver of the motorcycle but the drivers of cars/trucks who don't fully pay attention to when or IF there's a motorcycle present so JUST be careful!

    Cage drivers are horrible and incompetent, YOU have to watch out for THEM, not the other way around, when someone gets into one of those things they turn off and stop paying attention, they will slam on brakes, tailgate, change lanes without looking, generally not give a shit about you at all and don't ride on the side of the lanes with parked cars, someone is inevitably going to open a door on you suddenly.

    OOH and keep out of peoples blind spots, if you aren't in there direct view, don't be anywhere they can't directly see you, ie, immediately behind them, or up next to there bonnet (hood) otherwise your just an object they don't see.