Political theater at its best albeit revolting

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    Jan 23, 2008 9:34 PM GMT
    Read on my fellow bretheren:


    WASHINGTON (AFP) - US President George W. Bush and his top officials ran roughshod over the truth in the run-up to the Iraq war lying a total of 935 times, a study released Wednesday found.

    Bush and his then secretary of state Colin Powell made the most false statements as they sought to drum up support for the March 2003 invasion to topple Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, the study alleged.

    In a damning report, the Center for Public Integrity found “935 false statements by eight top administration officials that mentioned Iraq’s possession of weapons of mass destruction, or links to Al-Qaeda, on at least 532 separate occasions.”


    I ask you: how will this (or will it) effect your vote in the fall?

    B787.





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    Jan 23, 2008 10:02 PM GMT
    Well, neither Bush nor Powell will be on the ballot so I should say that it won't affect my vote at all.
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    Jan 23, 2008 10:07 PM GMT
    But what about his republican enablers? What about the Democrats who allowed themselves to be bullied?
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    Jan 23, 2008 10:10 PM GMT

    This is why I am voting for Hillary, want to see what it's like to get fucked by a woman.
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    Jan 23, 2008 10:22 PM GMT
    Rugger I am voting for Hillary because I believe she has worked for the job and trained for the job.

    If I had to choose between two candidates for any job I would always select the person who really wants it and has taken the time to prepare for it, knows what they want to do, and has the experience to do it.

    The other guy I happen to like, his oratory inspires me, I would love to see an African American in high office (and the Naval Observatory would do for now in this case), however I don't think he is prepared to be President.

    Personally, I see this Bush as the last gasp of the Nixon administration (Rove, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. are all Nixon alumni).

    The Republicans bother me less than the enduring stench of smugness that still emanates from the Nixon White House.

    For me it is a given that I won't vote for the "enablers". However, I do think the idea that George Bush is a puppet is overrated. I fear he actually believes in what he does and in himself.

    I am convinced he has been the worst President in American history.

    Peace
    Terry
  • SkyMiles

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    Jan 24, 2008 3:28 AM GMT
    Absolutely! There is no reason in this world to reward the political party responsible for Bush and his depredations with a vote for more of the same SH*T!

    Just today, house Repubs crapped all over SCHIP for the 3rd time! Hey, lets give Haliburton billions but screw over poor children! What the hell does anybody expect from these bastards based on their past history?
  • Starboard

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    Jan 24, 2008 3:41 AM GMT
    This is fucking brilliant.

    http://www.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/Search/Default.aspx
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    Jan 24, 2008 7:17 AM GMT
    This comes out... and the chance that Bush or Cheney gets impeaches is still 0%.

    Yeah Nancy Pelosi! (NOT)
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    Jan 24, 2008 7:25 AM GMT
    (afterthought)

    If the Dems aren't impeaching because they think it won't go through the house anyways and then wouldn't happen in the Senate once there. Why not have a vote in the house on impeachment - at least then they can document the case for impeachment and have the repugnicons on record as supporting all the atrocities. That would be interesting fodder to take to voters in the 2008 and 2010 elections.

    The dems have been afraid to vote against the war because it might be used against them in the elections - maybe the repugs would vote yea on an impeachment bill so they wouldn't have to face the voters with a nay vote. I mean what do they have to worry about - he wouldn't actually get impeached in the Senate anyway, so for the good of the party they'd let it threw in the house. (Sorry, just wishful thinking.)

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    Jan 24, 2008 7:53 AM GMT
    I will be voting for Hillary, not because I think she is a good candidate, but because she is the least horrible one.

    One thing that puts my mind at ease this election is that whomever wins will spend the entire four years fixing all the mistakes and will probably not have time for anything new! Thank religious icon here>!

    Though, I am quite convinced that if Hillary wins she will be assassinated almost immediately. Horrible thing to say, I know; but who here can think of some people who still believe women are useless/stupid/etc? I bet everyone on RJ can think of someone. Pray for Mankind my fellow gays. icon_confused.gif

    ~Geo
  • GQjock

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    Jan 24, 2008 11:41 AM GMT
    If you didn't know this already
    I think you've been drinkin' some serious sh*t

    At this point I wouldn't vote for a republican even if he dropped a house on Karl Rove
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    Jan 24, 2008 11:37 PM GMT

    Man, this is telling...

    Come on guys, why not express an opinion about this subject matter? Over 100 of you read it but less then 10% actually replied?

    Isn't this more important than, say, whether or not a guy at the gym smiles at you; what actor will win an Oscar; or, what body part is shaved?

    Or maybe that is why we are in the mess we are in: people are more apt to consider and/or comment on self-indulgent nonsensical matters than matters which effect the greater populus and our future. Is this reflective of us as a society as a whole?

    Yeah, I get that we can comment or not comment on what we want - but displayed behavior reflects who we are in the bigger picture: that said, keeping quiet or refusing to be heard permits disasterous results.

    Just look where we are today . . .

    B787
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    Jan 24, 2008 11:52 PM GMT
    B787 said
    Man, this is telling...
    Come on guys, why not express an opinion about this subject matter? Over 100 of you read it but less then 10% actually replied?
    Isn't this more important than, say, whether or not a guy at the gym smiles at you; what actor will win an Oscar; or, what body part is shaved?
    Or maybe that is why we are in the mess we are in: people are more apt to consider and/or comment on self-indulgent nonsensical matters than matters which effect the greater populus and our future. Is this reflective of us as a society as a whole?
    Yeah, I get that we can comment or not comment on what we want - but displayed behavior reflects who we are in the bigger picture: that said, keeping quiet or refusing to be heard permits disasterous results.
    Just look where we are today . . .
    B787


    I lol'd at this. You didn't actually comment on the thread either...

    Funny how that is.
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    Jan 24, 2008 11:54 PM GMT
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  • jarhead5536

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    Jan 25, 2008 12:13 AM GMT
    Impeachment will not happen, and everyone knows it. I am just enough of a conspiracy theorist to think that the Rethuglicans impeached Bill Clinton on purpose in advance of what is happening now.

    The RW so thoroughly poisoned the waters in 1998-99 that any attempt to hold the administration accountable now will be seen by the apathetic clueless public as an act of spite and pettiness, which is what it was during the Clinton administration. If we make any move to charge Bush/Cheney with their crimes, we will be run out of Congress for being too partisan and vindictive, rather than doing the work of the people. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, for all their faults, are well aware of this.

    Bush/Cheney would have to do something so blatantly, flagrantly criminal that any moron would recognize it as such on sight in order for impeachment to go forward. The actions they have thus far taken have easily escaped the notice of the inattentive public. Questionable activities in the Executive Branch? Look, missing white girl over here! Mismanagement of the war in Iraq? Look, Islamic terrorists are coming to kill your children over here? The Republicans are just too good at this to get caught, except when it comes to sex scandals...
  • USMCjock

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    Jan 25, 2008 12:32 AM GMT
    ummm- nobody ever disputed that So-Damn Insane had WMD's. Not the UN, or the Frenchies, or even B.J. Clinton.
    Nobody has explained to me how, if Hillary is THE smartest woman in the world, and GWB is the biggest dumb-ass, can Ms. Rodham claim he "tricked" her into voting to invade Iraq, resulting in the deaths of 3,000+ American soldiers and Marines? Congresspersons get a lot more infor than even the NYT prints- she had all the intel.
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    Jan 25, 2008 12:35 AM GMT
    Nobody disputes that Saddam had WMDs? Except the Baker Commission, which found no evidence. Oh, and yes, Hillary got the faked intel. Your heroes even faked the crap they gave Colin Powell. You think your idiotic party is going to pin this disastrous war on the DEMOCRATS?

    That's even stupider than usual.
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    Jan 25, 2008 12:37 AM GMT
    I would imagine that many of us on RJ, like the entire US, are so tired of the way the "Village Idiot from Texas" has lied, cheated, mis-represented, and destroyed the US economy, good will, worldwide reputation, etc, that putting a "pet rock" or a "chimp" in the office of "President" seems to be a better choice. The most positive thing to say at this point is that GWB and the rest of his "clan" will be out of office in less than 1 year....if we can all hang on and survive until January 20, 2009, and of course, hoping that he doesn't either start a new war or sell us out to the highest corporate raider.
    Quite honestly, the damage done to this country and our future is so shocking and complete, that many of us are almost apoplectic when we have to consider what he did to us and what we will be doing to forever try to heal the injustices and damages. God help us all.
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    Jan 25, 2008 8:00 AM GMT
    Right now I feel Hilary is the best Dem candidate and Mccain is the best Rep candidate. Personally Id love to see them on the same ticket.

    Obama will be President someday in my opinion, just not this time around.