RE: Ricky Martin; can we talk?

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    Mar 31, 2010 12:49 AM GMT
    So what Ricky felt a need to come out, as if we needed to be told the sky is blue!

    But when are we going to get to the point when people no longer feel a need to do such things, and it all becomes like the colour of a persons eyes.

    I'm sorry but to me gay men and lesbians seem to be some of the worst about needing confirmation about another sexuality. Then if some one was to make a deal about theirs they would be the first to bitch about it being made an issue, and when are they going to be accepted as a person first?

    So I'm sorry I don't need for all people of Hollywood, or famous Jocks to come out. I never did per se. I just have lived my life, and people have been able to conclude from that. Maybe thats why so little issue is made about my sexuality, as I make no big deal about it. My sexuality does not define me as a whole, gees I was also born a white Aussie male too, not just a poofter.
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    Mar 31, 2010 1:18 AM GMT
    If all the famous now-openly-gay people had remained discreet and silent about their sexuality, society as a whole would still be shunning gays.

    Whether we like to admit it or not, we ARE defined by our sexuality...or lack thereof. It may not be how you define yourself, but your definition isn't what others go by.

    So, hats off to Ricky, and all other gay people who've busted the hinges off their closet doors...even if they were glass doors like Ricky's was.
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    Mar 31, 2010 2:01 AM GMT
    joshnyc said on another threadwell i can live with 2 gay threads like this.....

    ricky martin gay thread #2.....
    .....but if we get to have a gay rickym thread # 25+.....then we have a gay healthcare thread problem in our hands...icon_rolleyes.gif




    uh oh.....gay ricky martin thread #3
  • GQjock

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    Mar 31, 2010 2:25 AM GMT
    Yeah ... He's Gay .............. He's also Puerto Rican icon_neutral.gif
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    Mar 31, 2010 3:48 AM GMT
    I'm so tired of these queens coming out when their celebrity is on the wane. Seriously, Ricky Martin could have had a real impact when he was at the height of his fame, but now that he can barely be picked out of a line up, he's gay. What-evah! icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 31, 2010 4:18 AM GMT
    And I am sick and tired of people complaining about celebrities not coming out when they think it could have helped them. Do we celebrate the B, C, D-listers or local "celebs" that come out? NOT! More like a 'pick and choose your hero flavor of the day" kind of celebration. Instead of a 'what-evah", there should be a collective "Get ovah it" and celebrate all coming out parties, early or late in life. Not just when it is convenient.Not everyone will be a Harvey Milk and I certainly don't need everyone to be a Perez Hilton. Yes visibility is power, but coming is an individual's personal journey, not the communities. icon_rolleyes.gificon_evil.gif
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    Mar 31, 2010 6:00 PM GMT
    I could care less about people's opinions on it. He's a gorgeous male who still looks like a man (if we surpass his bad She Bangs hair). Although there was very little "surprise" to a lot of people, I was still like, "Oh hey!" Hahahaha.


    So... while some people will be fickle... I'll just say it.

    Call me Ricky! Hahahahahaha.
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    Mar 31, 2010 6:11 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidI'm so tired of these queens coming out when their celebrity is on the wane. Seriously, Ricky Martin could have had a real impact when he was at the height of his fame, but now that he can barely be picked out of a line up, he's gay. What-evah! icon_rolleyes.gif


    I agree. Why not come out after Livin' La Vida Loca hit number 1? Instead he waits until he is basically forgotten about. It's still bad business in the entertainment industry to be openly gay, which is ironic seeing as the industry is run by a lot of gay and liberal people. It seems if you are gay and want any level of fame, you have to be so flamboyant that people think of you more as a character than a person. If Justin Timberlake would finally come out of the closet all the RIght-Wing, Conservative fans would shun him forever.
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    Mar 31, 2010 6:34 PM GMT
    so long as we aren't talking about a person in authority who uses homophobia to shield his/her identity/sexuality, i think each person has the right to come out when s/he is ready. on the other hand, if you are a closet case AND a homophobe who uses power to hurt the lgbt community while hiding behind "morality" to shield you, i will out you my damn self and i'd like to see anyone criticize me for it. i'll cut a bitch's face over that bull donkey shit.


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    another exception: timbersnake can stay in his closet rotting miserably forever for all i care. until he apologizes and owns his part in throwing my bitch under the bus at the superbowl i could give a damn what his pubic-hair looking self does. him and his white macdaddy bullshit get on my everloving, last, out-of-the-closet gay nerve.
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    Mar 31, 2010 6:36 PM GMT
    Justin Timberlake is gay?

    Yay!!!

    And I agree with Jack btw.
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    Mar 31, 2010 6:40 PM GMT

    I agree. Why not come out after Livin' La Vida Loca hit number 1? Instead he waits until he is basically forgotten about. It's still bad business in the entertainment industry to be openly gay, which is ironic seeing as the industry is run by a lot of gay and liberal people. It seems if you are gay and want any level of fame, you have to be so flamboyant that people think of you more as a character than a person. If Justin Timberlake would finally come out of the closet all the RIght-Wing, Conservative fans would shun him forever.[/quote]
    This right here says it perfectly. People criticize him for not coming out while he was big but doing so would destroy him. You wouldnt think that something like that would have an effect on his career but it does
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    Mar 31, 2010 7:11 PM GMT
    Amen OP...

    and rock on to all of you who instead of supporting a "celebrity" for coming out at ALL, you prefer to line up and pass judgement. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Hmmmm, I think that's why most people chose to be "closeted", they don't wished to be judged.
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    Mar 31, 2010 8:06 PM GMT
    dancerjack saidso long as we aren't talking about a person in authority who uses homophobia to shield his/her identity/sexuality, i think each person has the right to come out when s/he is ready. on the other hand, if you are a closet case AND a homophobe who uses power to hurt the lgbt community while hiding behind "morality" to shield you, i will out you my damn self and i'd like to see anyone criticize me for it. i'll cut a bitch's face over that bull donkey shit.


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    another exception: timbersnake can stay in his closet rotting miserably forever for all i care. until he apologizes and owns his part in throwing my bitch under the bus at the superbowl i could give a damn what his pubic-hair looking self does. him and his white macdaddy bullshit get on my everloving, last, out-of-the-closet gay nerve.


    WOW that Jack is a feisty one!!!

    But to remain on topic:

    I feel it is important for homosexual individuals with public status to come out of the closet when they feel ready too and be public about it. If not for the LGBT movement, for all the young, shunned, homosexuals that need rolemodels and need to know that there is nothing wrong with you and it is ok to be yourself.

    Do y'all realize that LGBT youth is 2-3 times more likely to attempt suicide than there heterosexual counterparts?!

    People need to be out and proud.
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    Mar 31, 2010 8:25 PM GMT
    joshnyc said
    joshnyc said on another threadwell i can live with 2 gay threads like this.....

    ricky martin gay thread #2.....
    .....but if we get to have a gay rickym thread # 25+.....then we have a gay healthcare thread problem in our hands...icon_rolleyes.gif




    uh oh.....gay ricky martin thread #3


    True but this one is diffrent, this one is not in news flash, or a celebration about it. It's when are we homosexuals going to get over the need to come out? How can we bitch about others like right wing Christians making a deal about homosexuality, when the gay community does it it's self.
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    Mar 31, 2010 8:27 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidIf all the famous now-openly-gay people had remained discreet and silent about their sexuality, society as a whole would still be shunning gays.

    Whether we like to admit it or not, we ARE defined by our sexuality...or lack thereof. It may not be how you define yourself, but your definition isn't what others go by.

    So, hats off to Ricky, and all other gay people who've busted the hinges off their closet doors...even if they were glass doors like Ricky's was.


    That may be the case in America, but not Oz. I don't feel America has really done anything for the advancement of homosexuality down here, and it is certainly more of an issue in the states than down here too.
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    Mar 31, 2010 8:33 PM GMT
    lawguy920 said
    Christian73 saidI'm so tired of these queens coming out when their celebrity is on the wane. Seriously, Ricky Martin could have had a real impact when he was at the height of his fame, but now that he can barely be picked out of a line up, he's gay. What-evah! icon_rolleyes.gif


    I agree. Why not come out after Livin' La Vida Loca hit number 1? Instead he waits until he is basically forgotten about. It's still bad business in the entertainment industry to be openly gay, which is ironic seeing as the industry is run by a lot of gay and liberal people. It seems if you are gay and want any level of fame, you have to be so flamboyant that people think of you more as a character than a person. If Justin Timberlake would finally come out of the closet all the RIght-Wing, Conservative fans would shun him forever.


    Maybe in America they would do that.
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    Mar 31, 2010 8:41 PM GMT
    Pattison,

    I must agree with you about location. I have never been to Australia so I can not make a call to how homosexuality is viewed there. I can only speak of where I live.

    Thanks for making that very valid point clear.
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    Mar 31, 2010 8:43 PM GMT
    Stonewall kicked off gay rights efforts pretty much worldwide. If not for Stonewall, Nicole Kidman would be the gayest thing about Australia.
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    Mar 31, 2010 8:54 PM GMT
    I can't help but wonder:

    Last week biggest story in the US; healthcare

    This week; Ricky Martin


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    Mar 31, 2010 9:12 PM GMT
    Does anybody else feel like Ricky Martin was whitened up a bit at the peak of his fame? He looks so much darker now (and sexier; seriously, scruff looks good on him) than I remember him; in fact, when I look at pics from his peak days, it seems as if he was definitely whitened up a bit.
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    Apr 01, 2010 11:38 AM GMT
    I agree with the OP. Coming out is so passe and Ricky Martin is already old news. Haven't read a blip since.

    Still reading about health care, Jesse James/Tiger Woods and the Vatican. Those are the stories that sell.

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    Apr 01, 2010 11:53 AM GMT
    ErikTaurean said...and I certainly don't need everyone to be a Perez Hilton.

    No one needs anyone to be a Perez Hilton. icon_rolleyes.gif