Half The People With The Virus Don't Know

  • metta

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    Mar 31, 2010 8:54 PM GMT
    Half The People With The Virus Don't Know

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  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 31, 2010 8:58 PM GMT
    This should serve as a wakeup call to some of the members in the gay community about the hidden dangers of unprotected sex. HIV is still a very dangerous virus but the way some guys behave you think that a successful, effective cure for HIV has been found. Unfortunately, there is still no cure in sight.
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    Mar 31, 2010 9:38 PM GMT
    Treat every new partner or conquest as though he was positive. Best free advice I have to offer. Have fun and take care of yourselves.
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    Mar 31, 2010 9:41 PM GMT

    Interestingly, that's just what the blood bank is doing when they refuse your blood, yet some guys are so determined to give blood they'll lie.

    intriguing.....
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    Mar 31, 2010 9:42 PM GMT
    as always, meninlove says what needs saying.
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    Mar 31, 2010 9:52 PM GMT
    dancerjack saidas always, meninlove says what needs saying.


    Amen to that, jack.

    CAJock753 saidTreat every new partner or conquest as though he was positive. Best free advice I have to offer. Have fun and take care of yourselves.


    Your words are most wise. Wish someone had expressed them to me in the past. Please keep repeating this and with your permission I'd like to use it in future conversations about sex.
  • bradsmith

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    Apr 01, 2010 12:32 AM GMT
    And the other 45% do know their status but may not tell you...sometimes even if you ask directly.

    And 95% of those who are negative are also unlikely to ask their sex partner's status...

    No, there is no source for these numbers...this is based on my personal experience...actually, my personal experience is that 99.999% never ask your status.

    Gosh, its just like some mutual hallucination, isn't it?
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    Apr 01, 2010 12:43 AM GMT
    CAJock753 saidTreat every new partner or conquest as though he was positive. Best free advice I have to offer. Have fun and take care of yourselves.

    That is the very definition of safe sex: every man you meet is potentially HIV poz. I work with the HIV/AIDS community every day, even this last Sunday, when I did the South Florida AIDS Walk.

    That is what we teach, what we preach, what we beseech guys to understand. Until a guy becomes your undoubted monogamous partner for enough months to be clear of the HIV testing "blackout window" you must assume he can be positive. This isn't rocket science, but common sense. Treat every stranger as poz and you are practicing safe sex; do not, and you are playing Russian Roulette, that you will eventually lose.
  • jrs1

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    Apr 01, 2010 1:04 AM GMT
    just got tested the other day ... so I know my status!
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    Apr 01, 2010 1:11 AM GMT
    If there is one thing I am positive about other than being a pure homosexual, thats I'm not positive HIV. I know that 100% too.
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    Apr 01, 2010 1:17 AM GMT
    Testing is so very important to know your status and as we all know and I have written about, people lie about their status for fear of rejection.

    Its sad that most people don't and will never know their status until its too late and alot of it is out of fear of knowing so they would rather say they don't have it because they don't know.

    Unfortunately condoms or "safer" sex is what they are calling it now just isn't cutting it. If all we had to do is put on a condom and make all these problems go away then we still wouldn't be battling unwanted pregnancies, std's and etc.

    It also kills me that religious people preach abstinence and they are the ones out here having all the affairs on their wives or molesting children and etc....where does it end? When does it stop?

    Sex is so powerful and controlling. I think it is probably the worst type of addiction or drug if you will. We all want it, and need it and have to have it.

    Some just for the validation that we are wanted and loved. Mostly to make us feel good. But depending on condoms and people to have safe sex is not going to stop any of this or it would have a long time ago.

    I have been thinking about this subject and probably will write about it in one of my blogs soon. Its interesting that everyone knows about safe sex and all you have to do is take a couple seconds and put it on, but we would rather run the risk of getting an std, having an unwanted pregnancy or dealing with a life long illness such as hiv instead of putting it on.

    I think there needs to be another option because this one is not working and almost seems to be going out of style, if you will.
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    Apr 01, 2010 1:21 AM GMT
    jrs1 saidjust got tested the other day ... so I know my status!

    Bravo, sir! And I hope that status is negative.

    But depending on the testing method, I hope you're aware that it's telling you your HIV status as of a few months ago, or at best a few weeks, if it's the expensive RNA test. Continue to be tested regularly, at least every 6 months, as my partner & I are. In fact, because we have blood draws virtually monthly for other medical reasons, we get HIV screened more than most gay men in South Florida! LOL!
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    Apr 01, 2010 1:28 AM GMT
    who came up with those stats?
    i thought the cdc or some other reputable org said it was 1 in 4 who didnt know...icon_neutral.gif
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    Apr 01, 2010 1:32 AM GMT
    joshnyc saidwho came up with those stats?
    i thought the cdc or some other reputable org said it was 1 in 4 who didnt know...icon_neutral.gif



    That's a lot
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    Apr 01, 2010 1:34 AM GMT
    Space_Cowboy_89 said
    joshnyc saidwho came up with those stats?
    i thought the cdc or some other reputable org said it was 1 in 4 who didnt know...icon_neutral.gif



    That's a lot


    but less than 1 in 2
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    Apr 01, 2010 1:36 AM GMT
    The best way to avoid getting any STD is to settle down with one partner, get tested and that's it. This whole business of sleeping around as much as possible and then trying to find ways around STDs is unnatural.
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    Apr 01, 2010 2:05 AM GMT
    Dont you think that calling it "the virus" is a little stigmatizing?
  • dannyboy1101

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    Apr 01, 2010 2:08 AM GMT
    jrs1 saidjust got tested the other day ... so I know my status!


    Correction: You know your status for three months ago unless you also have had 0 sexual contact in that time. Instant tests are still not 100% accurate because they are testing for antibodies to the virus not the virus itself and that can take time.
  • BlackBeltGuy

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    Apr 01, 2010 2:09 AM GMT
    dancerjack saidas always, meninlove says what needs saying.


    yup dancerjack

    im a fan of meninlove. icon_razz.gif
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    Apr 01, 2010 2:11 AM GMT
    SeaSon saidThe best way to avoid getting any STD is to settle down with one partner, get tested and that's it. This whole business of sleeping around as much as possible and then trying to find ways around STDs is unnatural.


    who do u work for? the vatican?
  • dannyboy1101

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    Apr 01, 2010 2:11 AM GMT
    joshnyc said
    Space_Cowboy_89 said
    joshnyc saidwho came up with those stats?
    i thought the cdc or some other reputable org said it was 1 in 4 who didnt know...icon_neutral.gif



    That's a lot


    but less than 1 in 2


    I insist it's 4 in 8!
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    Apr 01, 2010 2:12 AM GMT
    Friends of the Community,


    A few words and comments on HIV..

    I have not talked about this topic much. I am not trying to offend anyone and or place unnecessary labels on a person. It seems to me that HIV is the new label or status. It's a devastating viral and not easy to live or deal with for sure, yet the fact that it's commonly associated with homosexuality is not always fair. Many here in the post might assume that just because your not having gay sex that your some how liberated from HIV. Perhaps you are. Your not going to get the virus now are you? For that matter celibacy ensures your safety right? Happy with this? Happy about who you are? Maybe not.

    My point is we have to assume and if we must assume one thing this it.

    We live in a world of many ills. There are things out there that can hurt and/or kill you. Society is not perfect and neither are humans. So with that said in my view everyone has a bug of one thing or another. If it's not HIV it could be some other conic or life threatening disease like cancer or something that's contagious like swine flu or other killer diseases.

    It's about arming yourself. Seeing more than what's being told. You can easy set your self to not catch anything if you know how. This I know. You can actually and naturally immunize and protect your self from ALL harmful things that your exposed to. How...well, this is the answer (and another topic).....LEARN and READ and practice safety and holistic cures. All this combined will help shield you from many if not all harmful things....

    Man, woman or CHILD can walk in confidence with knowledge.

    The idea that many TEENAGERS would know about their HIV status is really not logical. Even may young adults and young women. The virus knows no sex. It only knows the host that it attaches its self to.

    I was talking to my neighbor. A Mormon man. He told me he just got out of the hospital for sever ASTHMA and he could not breath. He told me about some of his health issues and then proceeded to say how he felt relieved that he came out of the hospital with out catching another illness.

    He had a point there, then he mentioned that he was doing better and thankful that he did not have other issues like heart disease sickness, etc! He then he blurted out saying ......how he was NOT HIV!

    Well, I was stunned when he said this...why would an 70 year old married straight (not gay or having sex....lol) man be concerned about HIV? Well, for him he feels it's the ULTIMATE KILLER DISEASE!! I learned from a little more in our conversation.

    So do you want me to tell you what I said to his reply about being HIV free and not having this awful bug......?

    I said Bob, You know I am thankful I am not HIV POS. However, I think there are many things far worse than being positive. HIV is a manageable virus now days. I am not saying be risky, but I did say to him....look you just got out of the hospital for a severe ASTHMA attack and almost died. He could not breath!

    I know young folks who have other life threatening illnesses like leukemia and cancer that are hardly manageable and very painful. No one is perfect....I told him. I also mentioned that almost everything we suffer from is curable and can be reversed with mind control, holistic cures and proper diet and nutrition. I asked him how much his week in the hospital cost. Not cheap that's for sure......then I told him how I helped cure the cronic asthma of several close loved ones....Now do you think he was interested...YOU BET!!! Did I tell him.....NOT YET....to make him suffer? No, I had to go...did he try to find out later? Yes, He came over to my home when I was gone and left a note offering his apologies about being insensitive about HIV as a killer disease. He felt bad. You see...I just started to come out around my community and the guilt hit him hard.

    Friends, reach out and help your fellow man with out passing JUDGMENTAL innuendos and nasty words or slurs. I mean look @ Rush Limbaugh!! LOL

    JOHNNY


    Is a vaccine a good idea? If it works!

    Or you can just sat home and lube up and watch porn all day. There is plenty of that and you will be safe from any human contact!

  • BlackBeltGuy

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    Apr 01, 2010 2:20 AM GMT
    Being in health care we are trained to act as if every patient is poz. simple. do the same with dating. be supportive and wait for the right moment to have sex. Funny thing, my neighbor just got "a sore throat" taken care of that he had for 2.5 months. swab came back it was syphillis. 2.5 months!!
    he said he had to have hooked up 15 or more times from Adam and CL. nasty. they are saying syphilis is piggybacking with HIV which is even more dangerous.
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    Apr 01, 2010 2:23 AM GMT
    ZbmwM5 saidDont you think that calling it "the virus" is a little stigmatizing?


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  • BlackBeltGuy

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    Apr 01, 2010 2:27 AM GMT
    well it is a virus. hard cold math.