Why are gay men into "Divas"?

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    Mar 31, 2010 9:45 PM GMT
    This completely baffles me.

    Can anyone fill me in?
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    Mar 31, 2010 9:50 PM GMT

    Can you give an example by finding a vid and posting it?

    -Doug
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    Mar 31, 2010 9:55 PM GMT




    omg, i just got wet
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    Mar 31, 2010 9:56 PM GMT
    I'm sure I could, but I went to dinner with a bunch of guys my age, and one was completely obsessed with Mariah Carey. Like she could absolutely do NO wrong in his book..

    Then there's Brittany spears, etc. etc.

    There's a few I understand and a few I'm into... e.g. Billie Holliday and Etta James but I don't know if I'd call them Diva's... more so innovators of genres.

    To me it just seems like the defense and love of "divas" is some kind of image thing that goes over my head....


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    Mar 31, 2010 9:57 PM GMT
    If you speak as in Madonna or Lady Gaga or Cher it's because many gay guys have a propensity for the outlandish and these individuals fill it with crazy costumes and synthesizer music.

    For myself, I reserve outlandish comments and opinions over any ensemble.
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    Mar 31, 2010 9:57 PM GMT
    dancerjack said



    omg, i just got wet

    There we go....
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    Mar 31, 2010 10:00 PM GMT
    she is the fourth coming of buddha. if you don't understand, it's your loss.
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    Mar 31, 2010 10:02 PM GMT
    dancerjack saidshe is the fourth coming of buddha. if you don't understand, it's your loss.


    Seems I missed comings 2 + 3

    I guess it is...
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    Mar 31, 2010 10:02 PM GMT
    Are you referring to "divas" in the music industry?


    There is a picture of you in your profile with a guitar, possibly playing it, possibly meaning you are familiar with music and the concept that everyone has different tastes in music and not everyone is going to like the same thing as you, so I'm not sure why you of all people would be baffled by that concept.
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    Mar 31, 2010 10:04 PM GMT
    tryandbuy saidAre you referring to "divas" in the music industry?


    There is a picture of you in your profile with a guitar, possibly playing it, possibly meaning you are familiar with music and the concept that everyone has different tastes in music and not everyone is going to like the same thing as you, so I'm not sure why you of all people would be baffled by that concept.


    Haha.

    It's not so much the music, more so the outlandish behavior, etc.

    I think Makavelli pretty much answered my question.
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    Mar 31, 2010 10:07 PM GMT
    OMG...OMG...OMG

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    Mar 31, 2010 10:13 PM GMT
    lol, It's been awhile since I've even paid attention to the term , so I looked it up. icon_redface.gif

    For me, divas are Joan Armatrading, who was very popular in her earlier days, Sarah McLaughlan, Aretha Franklin and a few others.

    How about male divas?

    -Doug
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    Mar 31, 2010 10:13 PM GMT
    I cannot speak for anyone else's fixation on fabulous female singers. Perhaps it's the way in which gay men often see these women as beautiful vixens who have sexual power over the men they themselves would want? Or perhaps these women facilitate embracing the truth that femininity is just as miraculously awesome as masculinity (even if it doesn't necessarily excite the exact same direction of sexual desire).

    For me, it is more practical: Janet Jackson saved my life.

    Now, before you say I've jumped into the the pool of hyperbole, consider this: I had no direction, and nothing positive happening during some extremely abusive and tormented years throughout my adolescence. I was depressed one day, flipped through the stations, and there was a wonderful song playing with an intricate dance routine (this was when MTV still played videos). After two weeks of nearly incessant rewinding and gradually augmenting the phrases into my own body, I had taught myself "Miss You Much." I then repeated that process for "Rhythm Nation," as well as other videos.

    The point is that I realized at 12 years old that I wanted to be a choreographer (not a dancer, but specifically a choreographer). All the super abundant negativity in home/school/neighborhood/life was drowned out/balanced by the single focus of getting in shape, working hard, getting good grades, going to college, and getting the fuck out of the little redneck town that tried to kill me and wipe me out of all memory (and on a few occasions nearly succeeded). If Janet Jackson, a black woman in a white male-dominated inudstry, could muster the strength to be Janet Jackson, then I could muster the strength to be me.

    I have the equivalent to a Ph.D. in choreography from UCLA, and I have traveled the world dancing, teaching, choreographing, and performing. I have taught at several universities, and I was a high school teacher. I have my own dance company that creates original works and performs them. I make a very good living as an adult entertainer, and I am a certified personal fitness trainer.

    And I have done ALL of this, because Janet Jackson inspired me to not let Harlem, GA kill me.


    edit: since the op expressed in private email that my explanation is reason to cause him intense and condescending humor, i have decided to add here that if you don't want an answer don't ask the goddammed question, ASSHOLE. ignore/block double punch for you, boy. i keep forgetting that straight ACTING gays are so much better than gay BEING gays. fuck you.

    edit, part 2: i was told about a misunderstanding on my part. in an attempt to be more mature now than i was a few hours ago, i am removing the block and the ignore, because i want to see what has happened... (brb)...

    alright - i see that i did misunderstand what you meant. but in my defense you said "i am laughing so hard at you right now, but thanks for putting so much time into your response" and you didn't include anything else with it. i think it's easy to see why (after i'd just made myself vulnerable) i would have been in a position to be defensive; however, i also want to say that i am sorry for jumping to the conclusion that you were being mean. i shouldn't have assumed that, and i apologize. i was working from the perspective that if you were starting a thread about not understanding diva-obsession, you must therefore be saying that you were somehow better than the silly fags who connect to it. and for that, i also apologize. so... if we can both agree to be clearer in the future, i would like to start over with you, xGromitx. I'm a diva (as McGay said so lovingly), but I attempt from time to time to be a reasonable diva.
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    Mar 31, 2010 10:17 PM GMT
    Male diva?

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    Mar 31, 2010 10:25 PM GMT
    AWESOME!!
    I LOVE Neil Diamond!!
    icon_eek.gif oh shit... did I just type that out?!?!

    dustin_K_tx saidMale diva?
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    Mar 31, 2010 10:27 PM GMT
    haha!
    dustin_K_tx saidMale diva?

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    Mar 31, 2010 10:28 PM GMT
    "...good times never felt so good.."

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    Mar 31, 2010 10:33 PM GMT
    lol, I never thought of Neil Diamond, but think of this guy and this song..



    You know, Micheal Jackson, Boy George and George Micheal could be considered male divas...yes?

    -Doug
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    Mar 31, 2010 10:35 PM GMT
    I would have to agree, ha
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    Mar 31, 2010 10:36 PM GMT
    ...and Stevie Wonder would be one of my fave male divas...including this fellow from youtube, singing Stevie Wonder ( and he's definitely male diva material I think)

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    Mar 31, 2010 10:36 PM GMT
    Why are divas into gay men?
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    Mar 31, 2010 10:37 PM GMT
    edit: since the op expressed in private email that my explanation is reason to cause him intense and condescending humor, i have decided to add here that if you don't want an answer don't ask the goddammed question, ASSHOLE. ignore/block double punch for you, boy. i keep forgetting that straight ACTING gays are so much better than gay BEING gays. fuck you.[/quote]

    As I tried to explain in another email after you apparently blocked me... I was laughing about how you worded the beginning of your post...it reminded me of a friend of mine and how he talks about "divas"; a subject he also takes very personally. I would never laugh at any struggle you went through in an attempt to be condescending... I'm sorry for the misunderstanding?
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    Mar 31, 2010 10:38 PM GMT
    McGay saidWhy are divas into gay men?


    haha THERE is the real question!icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 31, 2010 10:43 PM GMT
    meninlove said lol, I never thought of Neil Diamond, but think of this guy and this song..

    You know, Micheal Jackson, Boy George and George Micheal could be considered male divas...yes?

    -Doug


    YES! I agree that they are total divas!!
    If you think about Neil Diamond and all his rhinestone clad outfits and bling... total diva!
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    Mar 31, 2010 10:46 PM GMT
    Lol, the divas like us gay guys 'cause we're purty, and we're empathetic. (and fans of divas are often appreciated for that by the diva)

    Say, Bette Midler is a diva!