running barefoot alternatives

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    Apr 01, 2010 9:20 PM GMT
    so i was sad to learn that the Nike Free 3.0 would no longer be made and that the 7.0 are basically all that they will do for 2010.

    needing a new show, i'd like to know what other SHOES are out there to mimic running barefoot.

    i dont want those Virbatum Five Fingers shoe/gloves or anything of the sort.

    i'd like to know what shoes i can use as an alternative.

    thanks for your time.
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    Apr 02, 2010 3:07 AM GMT
    Well don't give up hope yet. Just because a shoe is discontinued doesn't necessarily mean it's going to disappear. My advice would be to find some on clearance and stock up on a few pairs...finding a supplier online may also be a possibility.

    Other than that, the runners world forums have a whole sub forum about barefoot running. That'd probably be a good resource for you.

    I've always been curious about minimalist shoe/barefoot running, but I haven't quite bitten the bullet and bought a pair yet. I wonder how they'd work for a tall, injury prone runner with biomechanical issues like me.
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    Apr 02, 2010 3:12 AM GMT
    BJBien1010 said
    i dont want those Virbatum Five Fingers shoe/gloves or anything of the sort.



    Have you tried them?
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    Apr 02, 2010 3:25 AM GMT
    Im getting Vibrams this weekend. Im going to wear them everywhere. A Guy at my gym wears then to workout in when indoors as well as running outdoors, he loves them. Part of is that I really like being barefoot anyway and now these are very close and totally acceptable in social situations and even at my office. Feet were not really meant to be wrapped in cloth and leather all day to begin with.
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    Apr 02, 2010 5:07 AM GMT
    The shoes by Feelmax are minimalist like the Vibram Five Fingers but look more like conventional "shoes". I've never tried them, and I don't know anyone who has. I don't even think they were made for running.

    http://www.extremeoutfitters.us/feelmaxniesa.aspx

    I'd personally recommend either the Five Fingers or going straight barefoot, honestly. If you're worried that the five fingers look dumb...well, any conventional running shoe looks dumb too: a multi-colored brick straight out of a Lady GaGa video. Still, If you'd rather not draw too much attention to yourself when wearing Five Fingers, I'd recommend the all-black Vibram Five Fingers KSO. I've worn them to work regularly, and my coworkers didn't notice until I'd been wearing them a few weeks.
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    Apr 02, 2010 5:52 AM GMT
    i never wore Nike Free, but by their look , aren't they basically like any racing flats ?
    New Balance has a shoe addressed to CHI runners , i.e midsole impact runners .

    i'm so damn curious about FiveFingers . But they aren't distributed in Canada it seems. I know one guy who ordered them on the net, but seeing they have a particular measurement system, i'd think it's better i try them on .
    Has anyone ordered any on internet , and if so was the fit fine?
    The guy i ( very vaguely) know said his fit perfectly.

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    Apr 02, 2010 7:27 AM GMT
    xassantex saidHas anyone ordered any on internet , and if so was the fit fine?


    I ordered mine from the Vibram website because all the stores in my area that carried them were out of stock. They go buy the length of your foot, so you simply just have to measure.

    I've had them for about two and a half months now, and I like them. I wear them running and for working out. It makes things like burpees, mountain climbers, et cetera much easier. I even noticed they are nicer on the elliptical than conventional sneakers (cause you have more spring since you can flex on the balls of your feet).
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    Apr 02, 2010 11:57 PM GMT
    xassantex saidi never wore Nike Free, but by their look , aren't they basically like any racing flats ?
    New Balance has a shoe addressed to CHI runners , i.e midsole impact runners .

    i'm so damn curious about FiveFingers . But they aren't distributed in Canada it seems. I know one guy who ordered them on the net, but seeing they have a particular measurement system, i'd think it's better i try them on .
    Has anyone ordered any on internet , and if so was the fit fine?
    The guy i ( very vaguely) know said his fit perfectly.



    The FiveFingers (aka "VFFs") have a special way of sizing. I think Vibram's website tells you to measure the length from your heel to the end of your longest toe then use their sizing chart to match that measurement with the correct size. There is one problem with this that I ran into when I bought them off the net: the sizing instructions are assuming that your longest toe is your big toe. My longest toe is actually my second toe, and when the VFFs came in the mail, they were about 2 sizes too small.

    I HIGHLY recommend going to a retailer in-person and having them size and fit you. The shape of the shoe is a pretty generic foot shape, and you might need a different size shoe from what their sizing chart suggests in order to accommodate all the quirks of your own feet. In my case, since my longest toe is my second toe, my VFFs are two sizes larger than what they suggested, and so there's a little bit of slack in the pockets for my big toe.
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    Apr 03, 2010 3:26 AM GMT
    i see.
    my longest toe is very much my big toe .
    personally i'm interested in the kso trek for trail running .

    thanks for the input. icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 03, 2010 3:37 AM GMT
    Is it sad that my interest in barefoot running comes from me thinking those KSO five finger/toe shoe/glove things are cute as hell?


    so gay... I'm so gay..
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    Apr 03, 2010 3:55 AM GMT
    I just got back from a couple of stores trying the VFF (Sport Chalet & REI). I have small feet, size 7.5, but using their measuring method it comes out to a 39 (which I believe is the same as European shoes because when I've bought euro shoes 39 is the best fit). The female shoes are the same except not as wide, so I was able to try on the female shoes in the stores.

    It does take getting used to especially since my toes are used to wearing shoes, so they don't spread out naturally. I had to help them a little fit into the toes. Kind of like putting on a pair of latex gloves for the feet.
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    Apr 03, 2010 4:11 AM GMT

    well diz thread screams "crazy in a str8 jacket"....but ok if ur into it......icon_lol.gif

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    Apr 03, 2010 4:55 AM GMT
    jeffy87 saidThe FiveFingers (aka "VFFs") have a special way of sizing. I think Vibram's website tells you to measure the length from your heel to the end of your longest toe then use their sizing chart to match that measurement with the correct size. There is one problem with this that I ran into when I bought them off the net: the sizing instructions are assuming that your longest toe is your big toe. My longest toe is actually my second toe, and when the VFFs came in the mail, they were about 2 sizes too small.


    The Vibram website says:

    1. Stand with your heels flush against a flat vertical wall.

    2. Slide a ruler under each foot and measure the distance between the wall and to the tip of the longest toe.

    3. Take the longer of the two foot measurements.

    4. If the foot length varies by more than 1/6 in. it will be difficult to get a precise fit for both feet.

    5. If your second toe is 1/6 in. longer than your big toe it may be difficult to get a precise fit.

    The sizing instructions do not assume your big toe is the longest. You just have to read the instructions.
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    Apr 03, 2010 7:47 PM GMT
    joshnyc said
    well diz thread screams "crazy in a str8 jacket"....but ok if ur into it......icon_lol.gif
    ...


    hahaha... wonder if they're ticklish.
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    Apr 03, 2010 8:02 PM GMT
    Love my Five Fingers, but what's everyone's consensus on socks?

    I'm a sweaty bastard, including feet, and sometimes they tend to slip around towards the end of the run.

    Any other experiences with / without socks?

    Also, just found out that they become awesomely clean when washed by themselves!
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    Apr 04, 2010 11:07 PM GMT
    JDean saidLove my Five Fingers, but... ...sometimes they tend to slip around towards the end of the run.



    .. wouldn't have been something I would have considered. Good post.
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    Apr 05, 2010 2:48 AM GMT
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    jeffy87 saidThe FiveFingers (aka "VFFs") have a special way of sizing. I think Vibram's website tells you to measure the length from your heel to the end of your longest toe then use their sizing chart to match that measurement with the correct size. There is one problem with this that I ran into when I bought them off the net: the sizing instructions are assuming that your longest toe is your big toe. My longest toe is actually my second toe, and when the VFFs came in the mail, they were about 2 sizes too small.


    The Vibram website says:

    1. Stand with your heels flush against a flat vertical wall.

    2. Slide a ruler under each foot and measure the distance between the wall and to the tip of the longest toe.

    3. Take the longer of the two foot measurements.

    4. If the foot length varies by more than 1/6 in. it will be difficult to get a precise fit for both feet.

    5. If your second toe is 1/6 in. longer than your big toe it may be difficult to get a precise fit.

    The sizing instructions do not assume your big toe is the longest. You just have to read the instructions.


    When I read the instructions a few months ago, point #5 was definitely missing. Maybe the sizing instructions don't assume your biggest toe is the longest, but the shoes are certainly made that way. And even then, their sizing instructions don't offer suggestions on what size to buy if it happpens that your second toe really is 1/6 in longer than your big toe.
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    Apr 05, 2010 2:53 AM GMT
    JDean saidLove my Five Fingers, but what's everyone's consensus on socks?

    I'm a sweaty bastard, including feet, and sometimes they tend to slip around towards the end of the run.

    Any other experiences with / without socks?

    Also, just found out that they become awesomely clean when washed by themselves!


    Which VFFs do you have? I've heard people having the same trouble with slipping around on a run, but these were with the classics. I have the KSOs, and I don't seem to have that problem. Then again, I'm still easing into barefoot/minimalist running, and I haven't run longer than 1.5 miles yet in them yet.
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    Apr 05, 2010 3:16 AM GMT
    You shouldn't have enough room to allow for sliding. They should be snug (are you strapping them on tight?), but if that is not the case you may be able to compensate by wearing Injini socks.

    And Jeffy if you've had them for 5 months, why haven't you used them yet? 1.5 miles is like twice around the block. I'm not trying to ridicule, I just don't understand why you haven't broken them in after having them for so long. The first thing I did when I got mine was do a 10K down the street.
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    Apr 07, 2010 5:10 AM GMT
    Ganymede80 saidYou shouldn't have enough room to allow for sliding. They should be snug (are you strapping them on tight?), but if that is not the case you may be able to compensate by wearing Injini socks.

    And Jeffy if you've had them for 5 months, why haven't you used them yet? 1.5 miles is like twice around the block. I'm not trying to ridicule, I just don't understand why you haven't broken them in after having them for so long. The first thing I did when I got mine was do a 10K down the street.


    I've only had them since February, and when I did get them, I had not run in 6 weeks due to complete resting from a case of ITB syndrome (as recommended by my doc). When I first went running in them, I went for a 3 mile run. After that run my achilles tendons flared up and I was out of commission for another week to let that clear up. And since then it's been a mix of me trying to get my feet and legs used to running in the VFFs and getting my leg muscles reconditioned from the 6-week running layoff. So I'm taking it slow and essentially starting from scratch so I don't injure myself again. My cardiovascular system is still conditioned to run 10+ miles, but unfortunately, my muscles and tendons can't keep up.