GREAT NEWS! I Likely Don't Have Cancer!

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    Apr 02, 2010 4:23 PM GMT
    I see the urologist on Monday, but I already know the results of my latest PSA blood work, told to me a few minutes ago on the phone. My high PSA level has plummeted to near-normal levels, still a little elevated (2.1), but now unlikely to be caused by prostate cancer, in which case it wouldn't drop but continue to climb.

    I wanted to believe it was due to an infection, and asked my doctor to put me on antibiotics against that possibility. I have a history of this, though my current doctors are fairly new treating me and didn't know all this. When they saw that PSA spiking, they got quite alarmed, and the urologist was ready to do a biopsy (OUCH!). I told him no, we'll wait until I've completed the antibiotics.

    It appears I was correct. I insist on having doctors who will work with me, and not be dictators, one of the reasons I left the VA system. So all is well with the world, and I dodge another bullet. I'll be very relaxed when I visit the urologist on Monday, and if he still pushes for a biopsy I'll decline, tell him to continue to monitor my PSA and do nothing unless it spikes again. I mean, who is in charge here? icon_wink.gif
  • speedoguy53

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    Apr 02, 2010 6:44 PM GMT
    Good for you! I'm a believer too that we have to take charge...no one knows our own bodies better then ourselves!
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    Apr 02, 2010 6:58 PM GMT

    Whew! Great news, Red Vespa!
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    Apr 02, 2010 7:04 PM GMT
    icon_razz.gif YAY! I'm super Glad!!! icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif
  • rnch

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    Apr 02, 2010 7:05 PM GMT
    great news indeed! icon_cool.gif
  • HndsmKansan

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    Apr 02, 2010 7:09 PM GMT
    I'm sure its a huge relief. Glad to hear it Bob! I hope you guys can have a great weekend celebration.....

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    Apr 02, 2010 7:17 PM GMT
    Great News! I am very happy for you.icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Apr 02, 2010 7:28 PM GMT
    oh thank god! congratulations!
  • MuscleComeBac...

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    Apr 02, 2010 7:53 PM GMT
    Great news! And MUCH MORE THAN.. has given you some great direction. About a year before I came out of my emotional coma, I had an elevated PSA and an enlarged prostate that essentially was graded just slightly above Pluto, and even petitions to the National Academy of Science couldn't downgrade it below "planet", but the herbs and supplements helped. That meant I didn't have to take pharma-crap that dropped my Testosterone to pre-school levels. Took my PSA from 12 (yes...12, not 1.2, made my doctor raise an eyebrow!) to below 1 ng/ml in less than six weeks. My doc is a Canadian educated (McGill) urinary oncologist and he never biopsies until the level is at least 4 or higher, and only then if it tests that high twice within four weeks. You're right to find another doc.
    Diet and exercise make a huge difference. Stress reduction helps a lot. And, believe it or not, you should be ejaculating at least five times a week. No joke. So rub one out for prostate health!
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    Apr 02, 2010 8:32 PM GMT
    Congratulations! What a bullet you have dodged. Keep it tested tho. Early detection makes all the difference in the world.
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    Apr 02, 2010 9:29 PM GMT
    Congrats
  • RSportsguy

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    Apr 02, 2010 10:27 PM GMT
    Congrats Red Vespa!!
  • CAtoFL

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    Apr 02, 2010 10:32 PM GMT
    Great news! Now stay healthy, dammit! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 02, 2010 10:32 PM GMT
    God bless, Great way to start the weekend!
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    Apr 02, 2010 10:44 PM GMT
    Great news. Now go and enjoy your weekend and celebrate!
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    Apr 02, 2010 11:01 PM GMT
    Caslon14000 saidCongratulations! What a bullet you have dodged. Keep it tested tho. Early detection makes all the difference in the world.

    Yes, that's the important message here. Believe it or not, what I post on RJ rarely is really about me personally, but about what I think may be useful for others to read, even though I frame things in terms of personal anecdotes. Who the fuck cares about ME, or should? Seriously. But I'm full of every kind of story (or something icon_razz.gif ).

    I'm vain enough to believe I've had a varied & interesting life, hopefully still am, and I post my ups & downs here sort of a like a Twitter thing. And so when something like this prostate problem comes along I post it, too, from which you can draw your own conclusions and lessons.

    BTW, my late father had prostate cancer that he neglected, until it metastasized, spreading all over his body, making him terminal. A heart attack actually killed him, but his prognosis was hopeless at that point anyway.

    My current partner also had prostate cancer, and he got radioactive seed implants right away, possibly what you had, having gotten an early enough diagnosis 6 years ago. Right now his PSA levels are lower than mine (we have the same urologist and GP, usually schedule our appointments together -- isn't that chummy? icon_rolleyes.gif )

    Anyway, thanks for the kind thoughts, and those of the others here. You guys are too good. icon_biggrin.gif
  • MuscleComeBac...

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    Apr 03, 2010 3:22 AM GMT
    I lived in LA for adecade prior to this, where my best girlfriend's boyfriend works as a PT in a clinic with a studied and degreed doctor of Chinese medicine. He put together a 12 week supply of an herbal mix that he mailed to me and which I took as a tea, twice a day. Oddly, there was no saw palmetto in the brew--as I called it-- which I know only because I asked. But the rest was a mix of plants and herbs I had never heard of or couldn't tell you because the package was written like a prescription, in Mandarin.
    However, he did have me supplement with zinc and add a fresh grapefruit to my diet each day, along with a variety of tomatoes (he sent me to the farmers market to buy a locally grown pink and yellow tomato whose name I can't recall, but which I could not find here in FL, so I fudged and just OD'd on local yellow and other varieties.)
    I still have a fresh grapefruit every day, and I've adopted a modified "eat local and seasonal" diet -- (this only within the past three months).
    I recall that one thing he insisted I cut out was dairy and high calcium greens (as a native Southerner I live for dark greens like collards and kale). The only conflict with this and my uroligist's recs was the tomato -- well, the herb tea concerned him at first but...he's learning. Energy medicine Is next on my list of things to getvhim to consider)
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    Apr 03, 2010 9:13 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    Whew! Great news, Red Vespa!


    That really is wonderful news, Red Vespa!! Our miracles often come when we least expect them!!! God Bless!!
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    Apr 08, 2010 5:21 PM GMT
    Congrats on the good news!!
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    Apr 08, 2010 5:26 PM GMT
    Congratulations on the great news about a clean diagnosis and a "second chance" at life!!! icon_biggrin.gif

    What will you do differently in your life from this day forward?

    Aloha and Be Well!

    Alan
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    Apr 08, 2010 7:01 PM GMT
    GAMRican saidCongratulations on the great news about a clean diagnosis and a "second chance" at life!!! icon_biggrin.gif

    What will you do differently in your life from this day forward?

    Aloha and Be Well!

    Alan

    Thanks! Actually nothing different at all, since it wasn't quite that dramatic a moment. A couple of doctors thought cancer a good possibility, which obviously concerned me, but neither do I panic. I thought it might be an infection, which indeed it was. Now here's what oughta been a REAL scare:

    I was 32, returning to see an Army doctor for the results of some tests he took. As I entered his office he barely said hello, and sat at his desk and started writing.

    "This is a prescription for you, to make you as comfortable as possible in the time you have left."

    "The time I have left?" I asked. I thought maybe he was talking about my current tour at that Army post, which was ending in 3 months.

    "Yes, you're terminally ill, renal failure, kidney failure. You might have about 2 years. There's one test I'm still waiting for, but that result should confirm this diagnosis. I'll contact you in a week to 10 days."

    Strangely enough I didn't panic, really assumed he was totally mistaken, and hardly thought about it in the intervening week. The verdict: too much caffeine, nothing wrong with my kidneys at all! The whole incident hardly phased me.

    In 1996 the VA told me it was likely I had ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease). Always fatal, not a nice way to go. They said a definitive diagnosis was difficult, until more symptoms occurred, and periodic tests like an EMG showed a worsening. So I waited. No worsening of the symptoms happened (though SOMETHING is wrong, everyone agrees about that). It was only 2 years ago a VA neurologist told me ALS is now unlikely, it's been too long a time period without significant changes.

    So for about 12 years I had that hanging over my head. And I was like -- ehh. I really didn't believe it, made no difference in my life.

    The only significance about my story here is for men to have regular PSA blood tests to be safe, especially over 50, and DREs (which some might even look forward to). And stay calm if you get an initially scary diagnosis, get a second opinion, wait for absolute confirmation.
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    Apr 08, 2010 7:12 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa said
    The only significance about my story here is for men to have regular PSA blood tests to be safe, especially over 50, and DREs (which some might even look forward to). And stay calm if you get an initially scary diagnosis, get a second opinion, wait for absolute confirmation.


    Yes, please do!!

    My sister was just diagnosed with cancer at age 47 which may have been caught a lot sooner had she gone in for regular exams that women need.

    Your body is the only one you've got. Please take care of it!! In more ways than just getting fit and buff. icon_surprised.gif