Rush Limbaugh accidentally endorses Obamacare

  • metta

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    Apr 02, 2010 6:27 PM GMT
    Rush Limbaugh accidentally endorses Obamacare

    http://trueslant.com/rickungar/2010/01/03/rush-limbaugh-accidentally-endorses-obamacare/
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    Apr 02, 2010 6:44 PM GMT
    CNN poll: 59 percent of Americans oppose just-passed health-reform bill
    5:18 pm March 22, 2010, by Jay

    In a new CNN poll released today, 59 percent of Americans say they oppose the health-insurance reform bill passed Sunday night, while just 39 percent support it. (13 percent say they oppose it because it isn’t liberal enough.)

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  • wellwell

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    Apr 02, 2010 6:45 PM GMT
    Although NOT a Limbaugh fan (I think his support 4 nafta & gatt was no less than treasonous), the OP's support of an inaccurate and perfectly-hateful article is profoundly absurd.

    The suspected heart-patient paid cash for the hospital's services.
  • ickymuffin

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    Apr 02, 2010 6:46 PM GMT
    PAstud21 saidCNN poll: 59 percent of Americans oppose just-passed health-reform bill
    5:18 pm March 22, 2010, by Jay

    In a new CNN poll released today, 59 percent of Americans say they oppose the health-insurance reform bill passed Sunday night, while just 39 percent support it. (13 percent say they oppose it because it isn’t liberal enough.)

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    I would imagine that most people don't even understand what's in the Health Care Reform package....on both the Republican and Democratic side...so it doesn't really bother me that people oppose it.
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    Apr 02, 2010 6:49 PM GMT
    ickymuffin said
    PAstud21 saidCNN poll: 59 percent of Americans oppose just-passed health-reform bill
    5:18 pm March 22, 2010, by Jay

    In a new CNN poll released today, 59 percent of Americans say they oppose the health-insurance reform bill passed Sunday night, while just 39 percent support it. (13 percent say they oppose it because it isn’t liberal enough.)

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    I would imagine that most people don't even understand what's in the Health Care Reform package....on both the Republican and Democratic side...so it doesn't really bother me that people oppose it.



    It was debated for over 1 year. BO had 58 speeches including 2 prime time. That is plenty of time. Your reasoning is liberal wishful thinking.
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    Apr 02, 2010 6:50 PM GMT
    Why didnt anyone think to use Hawaii as an example during the health care debate???

    I hope this gets touted far and wide.
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    Apr 02, 2010 6:53 PM GMT
    Caslon14000 saidWhy didnt anyone think to use Hawaii as an example during the health care debate???

    I hope this gets touted far and wide.



    Because: it was a miserable failure 4 clinton, and outlandishly expensive! simple . . .
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    Apr 02, 2010 6:54 PM GMT
    Caslon14000 saidWhy didnt anyone think to use Hawaii as an example during the health care debate???

    I hope this gets touted far and wide.


    The source provided on this article is very very partisan to the far far left. The article clearly slants and twists quotes to fit a obvious partisan viewpoint. Each state has their own unique challenges in regards to health care. I highly doubt Hawaii should be a staple for all the other states.

    The source and author of this article is quite frankly pitiful and divisive. America deserves better.
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    Apr 02, 2010 7:08 PM GMT
    PAstud21 said
    ickymuffin said
    PAstud21 saidCNN poll: 59 percent of Americans oppose just-passed health-reform bill
    5:18 pm March 22, 2010, by Jay

    In a new CNN poll released today, 59 percent of Americans say they oppose the health-insurance reform bill passed Sunday night, while just 39 percent support it. (13 percent say they oppose it because it isn’t liberal enough.)

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    I would imagine that most people don't even understand what's in the Health Care Reform package....on both the Republican and Democratic side...so it doesn't really bother me that people oppose it.



    It was debated for over 1 year. BO had 58 speeches including 2 prime time. That is plenty of time. Your reasoning is liberal wishful thinking.


    You have more faith in the intellectual vigor of Americans than I do.

    I think most people are very ignorant on political issues like this. Most get their info from 24-hrs news channels (CNN, MSNBC, Fox, etc.). Fox is amazingly biased. MSNBC is also significantly biased. CNN seems to be biased as well but in a more subtle way.

    And people like Rush, Hannity, Olberman, O'Reilly are not news... I think a lot of people do not understand that.

    And do polls really matter? What if Bush would have followed the polls concerning Iraq?

    It seems like Bush has balls and no brains--Obama has brains and no balls.
  • OptimusMatt

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    Apr 02, 2010 8:51 PM GMT
    I still don't understand how people can view healthcare as something other than an essential service that the government SHOULD ensure is provided to the people.

    It's 2010, not 1810. The idea is to create a baseline standard for the entire country, not just those who can afford it. THAT'S how you make your country better as a whole - you raise the basic standard of living afforded to everyone across the country.

    It's always boggled my mind when I hear about this - how can Joe Blow America be so short-sighted and selfish when it comes to health care?

    I'm not touting state-run health care - it's an option but it has it's flaws. From what I understand the idea behind this health care overhaul was to provide insurance for everyone across america. Insurance, and RUNNING an insurance company, is quite different than running the hospital itself. While there IS a huge chunk of money involved in running an insurance company at the end of the day it's worth it, and could quite possibly end up paying for itself once established (I don't know enough to really back up that statement but if Americans are good at anything, it's recouping their costs). You know, I hear stories up here about people having to wait months for health care, and that's terrible - but I hear even MORE stories from down south where people either have been REFUSED health care or BANKRUPTED because they got sick. Look at what happened to all those support workers who cleaned up 9/11.

    9/11, and they had to FIGHT to have their healthcare costs covered? They're STILL fighting to have them covered? Are you fucking kidding me? The government can instantly sink billions into a war they didn't really have any reason to start in the first place (Iraq, not Afghanistan..I'm on the fence about that one) and their reps can look those people in the eyes and say 'sorry about your luck' as they use the horrific visions of what happened on that day to whip Joe Blow Redneck into a frenzy so they just eat the costs of war without actually taking care of the citizens they're fighting the war for.

    Guess what? THAT'S sick. It's obscene. I do my absolute best to stay out of US politics because I'm NOT a US citizen but still. It's repugnant.

    I still don't understand how anyone can look at health care and NOT see it as an essential government service like the police, or firefighters. A fire is a disaster, and you don't pay out of pocket for a firefighter to come put it out, and you certainly don't get bankrupted by the fire department because they had to come put out a fire. The fire's done enough damage, they aren't going to actively make it worse for you.

    I'd rather take my chances and potentially die rather than go through a surgery just to find out afterwards that 'its not covered because this is a pre-existing condition. You owe us $50 000' or better yet, CHOOSE to die because I can't afford the $50000 it's going to cost me to save my life because my insurance doesn't cover this condition.

    End rant.

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  • calibro

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    Apr 02, 2010 11:30 PM GMT
    PAstud21 saidCNN poll: 59 percent of Americans oppose just-passed health-reform bill
    5:18 pm March 22, 2010, by Jay

    In a new CNN poll released today, 59 percent of Americans say they oppose the health-insurance reform bill passed Sunday night, while just 39 percent support it. (13 percent say they oppose it because it isn’t liberal enough.)

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    37 percent of Americans are unable to locate America on map of America... and that map has been in discussion for more than a year. this is a strawman argument you're invoking, one of your favorites. it also falls into the fallacy of the majority, which states there is no correlation between a majority of people believing something and that something being true. use facts, not tactics to avoid reasoning.
  • barriehomeboy

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    Apr 03, 2010 1:10 AM GMT
    Your country really is something else. Do you have any idea what everyone else thinks of you, from watching this nonsence? It's like the Seinfeld bit with the Martians watching the guy picking up the dog poop.
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    Apr 03, 2010 4:05 AM GMT
    I e-mailed him, offering him a ride to the airport...I have yet to hear from himicon_cool.gif
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    Apr 03, 2010 4:56 AM GMT
    whaaa.....is this another thread on healthca.......[thump]

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    Apr 03, 2010 10:58 AM GMT
    "how can Joe Blow America be so short-sighted and selfish when it comes to health care?"

    Selfish? Bah! Americans will travel to foreign lands to establish freedom and they will die to protect the homeland. How can you even think Americans are selfish? We give our lives. Must we give our dollars too?

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    Apr 03, 2010 12:17 PM GMT
    PAstud21 saidCNN poll: 59 percent of Americans oppose just-passed health-reform bill
    5:18 pm March 22, 2010, by Jay

    In a new CNN poll released today, 59 percent of Americans say they oppose the health-insurance reform bill passed Sunday night, while just 39 percent support it. (13 percent say they oppose it because it isn’t liberal enough.)

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    You had to go digging for that one, didn't you? Did it ever occur to you that you're citing old poll data? That poll is two weeks old. It's no longer relevant.

    Post something more recent - something other than a Fox News poll - that reflects 50+ percent of Americans still feel this way, then we'll have something worthy of discussion. Otherwise, zip it, monkey boy.
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    Apr 03, 2010 8:31 PM GMT
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    PAstud21 saidCNN poll: 59 percent of Americans oppose just-passed health-reform bill
    5:18 pm March 22, 2010, by Jay

    In a new CNN poll released today, 59 percent of Americans say they oppose the health-insurance reform bill passed Sunday night, while just 39 percent support it. (13 percent say they oppose it because it isn’t liberal enough.)

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    You had to go digging for that one, didn't you? Did it ever occur to you that you're citing old poll data? That poll is two weeks old. It's no longer relevant.

    Post something more recent - something other than a Fox News poll - that reflects 50+ percent of Americans still feel this way, then we'll have something worthy of discussion. Otherwise, zip it, monkey boy.


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    Apr 03, 2010 8:48 PM GMT
    Polls and anything related to 'opinion' are a joke when the people being polled have no idea what their opinions are actually based upon - healthcare is a fantastic example.

    Opinion polls are great for things like who should win American Idol, where to go for the best pizza, etc. But I really think that any subject of substance should be restricted to an 'informed opinion poll' wherein the subjects BEING polled actually know what the fuck they're talking about in the first place.
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    Apr 03, 2010 9:26 PM GMT
    The polls that the Repubs love to cite, indicating that a majority of Americans oppose the HCR bill, do NOT indicate what they want it to indicate.
    BECAUSE - as we see in the poll cited by PA"stud"21 - a significant portion of the folks opposed to the passage of the bill are people who dislike the bill because it's not liberal enough - AKA DEMOCRATS.
    The far left wing of the Democratic party.
    Anybody who thinks that those far left Dems are going to go to the polls and vote Republican in the election this fall, or any other year - are crazy.
    It's NOT going to happen.
    And with all the crazy right-wing nuttery that's been going on, those Dems are not going to stay home either.
    The extremism of the Repubs and the teabaggers have roused the anger of the far left, and the rest of the Democratic party, and the result is a united Democratic party.
    United against Republicans.

    The bottom line is - if you use the poll cited by PA"stud"21 as an example -when you combine the 39% of Americans who support the bill's passage, with the 13% of Americans who oppose the passage, because they wanted a more liberal bill - you get 52%.
    A majority of the country.
    So, the poll doesn't say what the Repubs would like it to.

    And that's an old poll too - not the "new" poll that PA"stud"21 claimed it is.
    The new polls all show greater support for passage.

    ALSO - the whole subject is fast becoming old news that most people don't give a shit about anymore.
    Only the right-wing extremists don't want to move on.
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