US health bill forced to second vote by Republicans

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    Apr 04, 2010 9:08 AM GMT
    The house of representatives will have to vote on President Obama's health care bill again after Republicans successfully challenged the legality of the legislation.

    The surprise decision set the stage for another contentious ballot in the House which narrowly passed the measure aimed acrimonious on March 21.

    It means that the finishing touches to the bill singed into law by the president could be delayed.

    The new vote was forced when Alan Frumin, the senate Parliamentarian upheld Republican challenges liked to the packages overhaul of university finance. two points related to student loans were found to violate procedures, despite being described as "relative minor provisions".

    Mr Furming's ruling means that 16 lines will be expunged from the bill and revised version will have to be voted on by the House.
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    Apr 04, 2010 1:54 PM GMT
    This is old news. The bill was sent back to the house and it passed (again) and has been signed into law.

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    Apr 04, 2010 2:35 PM GMT
    The passage of this bill has absolutely NO effect on your life what so ever...
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    Apr 04, 2010 3:04 PM GMT
    GwgTrunks saidThe passage of this bill has absolutely NO effect on your life what so ever...


    Yes it does! I get to go back on my parents' health insurance plan! Hooray! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 04, 2010 3:09 PM GMT
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    Apr 04, 2010 4:46 PM GMT
    This bill has a HUGE effect on our lives. For one, Logan / flex89 can now get insurance (he's a type 1 diabetic), for two, he can now get back on his parent's insurance, for three he can no longer be forced to pay in and get no coverage, for four there's no limit on the amount of benefits in a lifetime, for five, I can now get insurance as a self employed person without jumping through hoops, for six health care will be less tied to employment.
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    Apr 04, 2010 5:03 PM GMT
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    GwgTrunks saidThe passage of this bill has absolutely NO effect on your life what so ever...


    Yes it does! I get to go back on my parents' health insurance plan! Hooray! icon_biggrin.gif

    I think he was talking to the Australian, TheI.
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    Apr 04, 2010 7:24 PM GMT
    MonkeyPuck saidThis is old news. The bill was sent back to the house and it passed (again) and has been signed into law.



    But it's still making world news.
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    Apr 04, 2010 7:28 PM GMT
    GwgTrunks saidThe passage of this bill has absolutely NO effect on your life what so ever...


    But it may well for people i care about, thus that can have an effect on one.

    I also have a long family history in America, not just Oz, as my family settled in America before we settled in Oz as well, from Switzerland.

    My companion of 20 years is an American too, so such thing albeit not directly do effect one. The fact Obama is willing to bankrupt America will effect those I love.
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    Apr 04, 2010 11:12 PM GMT
    Here's just one example of cost savings from the status quo. Instead of doing the same test three times. Do the test once, and email it, oh, golly, doctors don't have email, do they..Well, it will force that, too, going to e-records, where they won't get lost, can be emailed, or carried around, and one doctor knows what the other is doing affecting less expensive, and better care, saving nearly a TRILLION dollars in 10 years. That just good COMMON SENSE business management.

    The current system is cluster fuck of inefficiency and arcane methods. Folks should be proud that some folks have the guts to step and say "that's stupid, and a waste, and hurts folks, and costs to much money." About time.

    The new bill does give a 30 million person windfall to health insurance companies, and doesn't take us to the single payer we need (think Walmart and you'll be able to understand economics), but, it does fix many things

    What will bankrupt the system is the status quo, which...allowed a 63% increase in rates in some states, and charts that are still on paper. The status quo is not defensible why any angle.
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    Apr 05, 2010 1:57 AM GMT
    Pattison said...Mr Furming's ruling means that 16 lines will be expunged from the bill and revised version will have to be voted on by the House.

    News outlets not owned by Rupert Murdoch reported on this nearly two weeks ago. The vote was already taken and passed, signed by Obama a week ago.

    Get out much?
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    Apr 05, 2010 4:53 AM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said
    Pattison said...Mr Furming's ruling means that 16 lines will be expunged from the bill and revised version will have to be voted on by the House.

    News outlets not owned by Rupert Murdoch reported on this nearly two weeks ago. The vote was already taken and passed, signed by Obama a week ago.

    Get out much?

    but one does not only read news from around the world by Murdoch media; certainly not news of the world.

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    Apr 05, 2010 6:17 AM GMT
    i think i am going to manamana this on general principle...


    no, not worth the effort of finding the embed code.
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    Apr 05, 2010 11:03 AM GMT
    Pattison, I guess the news cycle is behind in your wonderful land of Oz.

    Why don't you stick to the current events in your own backyard vs. recycling old U.S. news? There's plenty for you to choose from. Topics like racism and bigotry running rampant in Oz, the oil tanker hitting the Douglas Shoal, healthcare reform in Australia ...
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    Apr 05, 2010 11:05 AM GMT
    dancerjack saidi think i am going to manamana this on general principle...


    no, not worth the effort of finding the embed code.


    Here you go:

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    Apr 06, 2010 10:09 PM GMT
    TheIStrat said
    GwgTrunks saidThe passage of this bill has absolutely NO effect on your life what so ever...


    Yes it does! I get to go back on my parents' health insurance plan! Hooray! icon_biggrin.gif


    Nothing takes effect for at least a year.
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    Apr 06, 2010 10:13 PM GMT
    Pattison said
    GwgTrunks saidThe passage of this bill has absolutely NO effect on your life what so ever...


    But it may well for people i care about, thus that can have an effect on one.

    I also have a long family history in America, not just Oz, as my family settled in America before we settled in Oz as well, from Switzerland.

    My companion of 20 years is an American too, so such thing albeit not directly do effect one. The fact Obama is willing to bankrupt America will effect those I love.


    The government is already bankrupt. icon_sad.gif