Question about Incest

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    Apr 10, 2010 3:51 PM GMT
    I just want to know what you guys think about this.


    Is incest OK between two brothers who happen to be very hot? What issues do you foresee to come of this?


    I mean, there isn't an issue of making deformed babies or whatever. Then again, I'm wise enough to say that I don't know enough about incest to actually make an argument for or against. Anyways, go go!
  • Timbales

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    Apr 10, 2010 3:55 PM GMT
    The incest taboo in ingrained in our cultural behavior, going back to hunter/gatherer type groups that were basically extended families. it was more about forming trading and protection bonds with other groups than the worry about deformed offspring. We know now what the effects of inbreeding can be, but we still find the concept distasteful even when we know there won't be any children.

    Intellectually I don't really have an issue, but I can't say I don't find it creepy.
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    Apr 10, 2010 3:58 PM GMT
    Soulasphyx said
    Is incest OK between two brothers who happen to be very hot?


    Yes, if they are hot, it is okay. If they are not hot, then yes, it is incest. icon_rolleyes.gificon_wink.gif

    You sound like you have someone specific in mind. Details, details!!!
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    Apr 10, 2010 3:59 PM GMT
    viveutvivas said
    Soulasphyx said
    Is incest OK between two brothers who happen to be very hot?


    Yes, if they are hot, it is okay. If they are not hot, then yes, it is incest. icon_rolleyes.gificon_wink.gif

    You sound like you have someone specific in mind. Details, details!!!
    Oh, no no! I was just asking. I posed the question randomly to my group of friends and they had mixed feelings about it. I just thought I'd pose the question to you guys. n_n
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    Apr 10, 2010 4:00 PM GMT
    Ew
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    Apr 10, 2010 4:03 PM GMT
    TheIStrat saidEw
    Why ew Mr Thel?
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    Apr 10, 2010 4:08 PM GMT
    Soulasphyx saidI just want to know what you guys think about this.


    Is incest OK between two brothers who happen to be very hot? What issues do you foresee to come of this?


    I mean, there isn't an issue of making deformed babies or whatever. Then again, I'm wise enough to say that I don't know enough about incest to actually make an argument for or against. Anyways, go go!


    Incest is incest. It is not ok.
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    Apr 10, 2010 4:10 PM GMT
    Soulasphyx said
    TheIStrat saidEw
    Why ew Mr Thel?


    Because I look at my brother and...well...I could never do that.

    The ew thought of two brothers going at it is a gut reaction of gross
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    Apr 10, 2010 4:14 PM GMT
    hardonguy said
    Soulasphyx saidI just want to know what you guys think about this.


    Is incest OK between two brothers who happen to be very hot? What issues do you foresee to come of this?


    I mean, there isn't an issue of making deformed babies or whatever. Then again, I'm wise enough to say that I don't know enough about incest to actually make an argument for or against. Anyways, go go!


    Incest is incest. It is not ok.
    Ok, I'm all for either side of this question. WHY is it not ok? I'd really like to here some reasons.
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    Apr 10, 2010 4:24 PM GMT
    The first thing that comes to mind is twins, uber hot.
    Then I think what it there is a big age difference, or one brother is mentally challenged.
    There is a gray line between rape and exploration; so to be on the safe side you have to say not cool.
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    Apr 10, 2010 4:36 PM GMT
    Soulasphyx said
    hardonguy said
    Soulasphyx saidI just want to know what you guys think about this: "Is incest OK between two brothers"...

    I just think and have a belief that incest is disgusting and wrong,that's all.icon_eek.gif
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    Apr 10, 2010 4:39 PM GMT
    Douglas_ said
    Soulasphyx said
    hardonguy said
    Soulasphyx saidI just want to know what you guys think about this: "Is incest OK between two brothers"...

    I just think and have a belief that incest is disgusting and wrong,that's all.icon_eek.gif


    I agree. Incest just isn't right. It's creepy like having sex with kids.
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    Apr 10, 2010 4:47 PM GMT
    Two brothers tag-teaming someone else (woman or man) is HOT. When they start touching each other in a sexual way... not hot.

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    Apr 10, 2010 5:22 PM GMT
    i gave blow jobs to my brother when i was 13 ...
    and he's straight, the fucker.
    but it didn 't last , i got fed up with him and moved on to my neighbor who turned out to be straight also so that didn't last either. He was a jerk anyway.

    was it good, was it bad... oh, at 13 you have such high morals icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Apr 10, 2010 5:51 PM GMT
    Soulasphyx saidI just want to know what you guys think about this.


    Is incest OK between two brothers who happen to be very hot?
    It's only OK if I'm there to supervise and make sure nothing gets out of hand.

    Speaking of which, I'm about to start some additional flight training, and may be flying to see my family in the process. Maybe I should stop by the Texarkana airport and see these brothers you're referring to. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 10, 2010 5:51 PM GMT
    I think it would be hard to find any grounds in existing law for same-sex "incest" being illegal.

    No straight male lawmaker would want such a law. They all have twin fantasies.
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    Apr 10, 2010 5:56 PM GMT
    By the way, identical twins are genetically the same, so that wouldn't be incest, it would be more like masturbation...
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    Apr 10, 2010 5:57 PM GMT
    Soulasphyx said


    Is incest OK between two brothers who happen to be very hot?




    You mean these twins? icon_twisted.gif
    http://www.rockettube.com/Gay-Porn-Stars/Belamionline/30460/Dolph-And-The-Twins.html
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    Apr 10, 2010 6:02 PM GMT
    oh please, noah's daughters seduced him after the flood... it's on! icon_lol.gif

    there are some videos of uberhot twins sucking/fucking each other out there. one set of twins on bel ami is particularly compelling. i was expecting it to disturb me, but it did not. with twins it's rather more like masturbation or having sex with yourself, isn't it? at least on some level. with brothers who aren't twins... ummm... i dunno. for some reason that seems less "okay."

    oh, and anthropologically speaking, women invented the taboos of incest, rape, and violence against women and children in an attempt to protect themselves from the their own male kin. when matriarchies were prominent the blood of women was venerated, and from this we still see the cries on sinking ships of "women and children in the boats first!" why? why women and children first? because female life is more valuable on some level. why? because 30,000 years ago our grandmothers taught their sons to fear shedding female blood, in an attempt to stop them from doing so. women have always recognized that men need direction toward civilization.

    the same is true of incest: mothers wanted their brothers and sons to keep their hands off of their daughters. men will fuck whatever is warm, and then start wars over who gets to fuck it next. incest/rape are taboos taught to us to keep up from murdering ourselves in clan feuds.

    my understanding is that genetic mutation from inbreeding is actually not all that prevalent until you encounter several generations of it (eg: royal families who marry siblings for several generations). being "inbred" is part of the myth to bolster the taboo aganst incest. there are plenty of examples in history of people whose parents were siblings, and they turned out to be fantastic leaders/artists/scholars/etc. it's a (wo)man-made taboo. nothing more.
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    Apr 10, 2010 6:02 PM GMT
    viveutvivas said
    Soulasphyx said
    Is incest OK between two brothers who happen to be very hot?


    Yes, if they are hot, it is okay. If they are not hot, then yes, it is incest. icon_rolleyes.gificon_wink.gif

    You sound like you have someone specific in mind. Details, details!!!


    There's a pair of twins, Milo and Elijah Peters, doing porn for Bel Ami Studios. One of the more controversial films is of the pair having unprotected sex with each other. I've always had a fetish for twins, and I thought the screenshots from that shoot were kinda hot. icon_redface.gif

    Though, I would never do my own brother...ick.
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    Apr 10, 2010 6:22 PM GMT
    I thought my issue was fucked up! this takes the cake. As long as they are both hot then its okay but not if they are ugly.... lol but seriously incest is wrong on so many levels. But to be fair I dont have a hot brother, or any brother,so who am I to say
  • masculumpedes

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    Apr 10, 2010 7:37 PM GMT
    I think it is totally up to the individuals as long as they are of age. I know of 2 brothers who are very good friends of mine. One is gay and one is bi-sexual and they are both very handsome, very muscular young men. They have been together sexually in the past and are very protective of each other. They each currently have other boyfriends. When I think of incest, I personally think of a father/daughter, mother/son, brother/sister type of thing.
    As far as 2 men, both consenting adults being together sexually whether brothers or not, it's not a problem with me.... icon_wink.gif
  • swimbikerun

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    Apr 10, 2010 7:51 PM GMT
    malefeet saidI think it is totally up to the individuals as long as they are of age. I know of 2 brothers who are very good friends of mine. One is gay and one is bi-sexual and they are both very handsome, very muscular young men. They have been together sexually in the past and are very protective of each other. They each currently have other boyfriends. When I think of incest, I personally think of a father/daughter, mother/son, brother/sister type of thing.
    As far as 2 men, both consenting adults being together sexually whether brothers or not, it's not a problem with me.... icon_wink.gif
    But like the OP said, only if they are hot and identical twins is a major plus!
    Funny, I feel the same way about saggy pants and butt cheeks.icon_twisted.gif
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    Apr 10, 2010 8:00 PM GMT
    First, some background about me. I am blessed to come from a home and a family of my biological parents (still married after 55 years), and one brother 11 years my senior. There was no incest, no domestic violence, no alcoholism, no dysfunction that "damaged" me when I was a child.

    Rawrly saidIncest is illegal and will likely destroy your reputation so I would avoid it.


    Isn't sodomy illegal in some places? Aren't practicing homosexuals considered to be engaged in sodomy? Does being LGBTQ destroy your reputation? At one time it did. Today, things are changing because we're learning more about how love can manifest beyond the the boundaries of the ancient Male/Female in a monogamous marriage and family. The definition of family is evolving (some would say devolving). The point is that it is changing and becoming more diverse in manifestation. In the end, it's supposed to be all about love, caring, commitment to each other, and where children are involved, the passing of values that strengthen individuals, families, communities, nations, and the world.

    There are certainly grave biological consequences of inbreeding that support criminal prohibition of incest between people who may conceive of a child.

    There are also psychological consequences that surround incest. Stigma is perhaps the one that I most commonly think of. And, I would argue that stigma is a result of societal mores, expectations of conduct, and the propensity of people to judge each other, and not of the act of incest itself. Other psychological consequences with symptoms common to abusive relationships also surround incest. And here I would argue that these consequences are a result of domestic abuse and violence, not of the act of incest itself.

    In this thread I see words such as "Ew", "Creepy", "Gross", and "disgusting and wrong". Those are the comments' authors personal judgments and feelings, based on their own personal beliefs. Every person is allowed to have their judgement and say on whatever they would like. However, those words are not evidence that same-sex incest is wrong.

    In this thread so far I have not yet seen any conclusive argument on why same-sex incest is truly wrong. I see comments such as, "Incest is Incest. It is not ok.", Those sentences form a circular argument that uses itself as its' own evidence.

    Another comment from the same author states, "Incest just isn't right. It's creepy like having sex with kids.". I agree that having “sex with kids" (pedophilia) who are under the statutory age of sexual consent in a jurisdiction and in violation of other affiliated statutes in that jurisdiction which serve to protect young people from sexual predators, is criminally wrong. It is also “creepy”, but that's a feeling and personal judgment.

    Most disturbing is the way this last set of statements are constructed like an analogy which might confuse some readers to equate "incest" with "sex with kids" (pedophilias). The first sentence "Incest just isn't right." is a personal judgment that does not support itself with evidence in any way, The second sentence "It's creepy like having sex with kids" attempts to create a basis for judging, based on the shared stigma of "creepy". By linking both incest and pedophilia (sex with kids) with the shared stigma of "creepy" feelings, the author attempts to create a mental and emotional association that incest and pedophilia are the same. This is a similar psychological operations strategy that has been and is continued to be used to demonize the larger LGBTQ community in the U.S. and elsewhere.

    Same Sex Incest and Pedophilia are not the same.

    Love between two consenting adults is beautiful, and can contribute stability to our society. There is extensive research on how the institution of secular marriage has a “settling” effect on members of society.

    Perhaps the laws on Same-Sex relationships between genetically related consenting adult partners may benefit from review and for possible change.

    Heck, it's only taken the LGBTQ community 41 years to get as far as we have from the “love that dares not speak its' name” to the rights, protections, and openness we enjoy today. And we still have sodomy laws on the books in places.

    Milo and Elija Peters (same sex gay male twins who make love with each other) have a long wait ahead of them if the LGBTQ community is a yardstick against to measure.

    Aloha and Be Well!

    Alan
  • gumbosolo

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    Apr 10, 2010 8:02 PM GMT
    As gay men I think we can all agree that just because someone finds it gross and thinks it's morally wrong doesn't mean it should be forbidden . . . like malefeet says, it's a consent thing.

    Soul, do you have a brother? I don't, so I don't know whether the idea of having sex with my brother would be a huge turnoff.