Even after death, abuse against gays continues. Case in Senegal shows the intensity of homophobia in Africa.

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    Apr 11, 2010 3:46 PM GMT
    These Africans sound like they have the mindset of Nazis. Even in death, African gays are tortured.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36376840/ns/world_news-africa/

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    Apr 11, 2010 3:53 PM GMT
    Nazis were nicer than that. At least they left the dead people alone.
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    Apr 11, 2010 6:28 PM GMT
    See also http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/904403
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    Apr 11, 2010 6:30 PM GMT
    Who cares.icon_biggrin.gif
  • Delivis

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    Apr 11, 2010 6:37 PM GMT
    PAstud21 saidWho cares.icon_biggrin.gif


    Who cares?! Who cares that someone can have their dead gay relative's corpse dropped on their doorstep? Who cares that the ignorance, superstition, and homophobia is so rampant that such behaviour is even concievable? Really?
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    Apr 11, 2010 6:40 PM GMT
    This truly sickens me. The idea that human beings can be so barbaric on other humans -- not to mention dead ones -- is horrifying. I wish the U.S. would cut off any and all aid to these barbaric regimes.
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    Apr 11, 2010 6:44 PM GMT
    that's so sad... just another reminder that there are still so many things wrong in this world today. Also a reminder of how fortunate most of us are.
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    Apr 11, 2010 6:47 PM GMT
    Delivis said
    PAstud21 saidWho cares.icon_biggrin.gif


    Who cares?! Who cares that someone can have their dead gay relative's corpse dropped on their doorstep? Who cares that the ignorance, superstition, and homophobia is so rampant that such behaviour is even concievable? Really?


    Yes who cares b/c how rampant do you think this type of behavior is in the world today? Why focus on the negative scare tactics? All i see is negative articles against gays but then you actually leave your house and does this really happen a lot? I think not.


    So once again....WHO CARES.icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 11, 2010 6:53 PM GMT
    PAstud21 said
    Delivis said
    PAstud21 saidWho cares.icon_biggrin.gif


    Who cares?! Who cares that someone can have their dead gay relative's corpse dropped on their doorstep? Who cares that the ignorance, superstition, and homophobia is so rampant that such behaviour is even concievable? Really?


    Yes who cares b/c how rampant do you think this type of behavior is in the world today? Why focus on the negative scare tactics? All i see is negative articles against gays but then you actually leave your house and does this really happen a lot? I think not.


    So once again....WHO CARES.icon_biggrin.gif
    Generally people who are not closeted disrespectful douche-bags care
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    Apr 11, 2010 6:59 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidThis truly sickens me. The idea that human beings can be so barbaric on other humans -- not to mention dead ones -- is horrifying. I wish the U.S. would cut off any and all aid to these barbaric regimes.


    icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif at the stuff in red!

    But innocent people should not suffer for the sins of the guilty. Not everyone in Senegal hates and tortures gays.

    That said, this is sad. I hope that the gay haters in Senegal and elsewhere learn the truth quickly.
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    Apr 11, 2010 7:02 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidNazis were nicer than that. At least they left the dead people alone.


    Of course! Homophobia is worse than racism, right? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Apr 11, 2010 7:05 PM GMT
    PAstud21 said
    Delivis said
    PAstud21 saidWho cares.icon_biggrin.gif


    Who cares?! Who cares that someone can have their dead gay relative's corpse dropped on their doorstep? Who cares that the ignorance, superstition, and homophobia is so rampant that such behaviour is even concievable? Really?


    Yes who cares b/c how rampant do you think this type of behavior is in the world today? Why focus on the negative scare tactics? All i see is negative articles against gays but then you actually leave your house and does this really happen a lot? I think not.


    So once again....WHO CARES.icon_biggrin.gif


    Move to a fundamentalist Islamic country then walk out your door with a boyfriend and we'll see who cares then.
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    Apr 11, 2010 7:06 PM GMT
    BlkMuscleGent said
    paulflexes saidNazis were nicer than that. At least they left the dead people alone.


    Of course! Homophobia is worse than racism, right? icon_rolleyes.gif


    The heck are you talking about? No one claimed that.
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    Apr 11, 2010 7:17 PM GMT
    BlkMuscleGent said
    paulflexes saidNazis were nicer than that. At least they left the dead people alone.


    Of course! Homophobia is worse than racism, right? icon_rolleyes.gif
    Whatever kind of prejudice that gets you dead is worse. If you are the gay that gets murdered or tortured because of it, I imagine homophobia is worse .. but why really the need for comparison? Why dismiss the hell that people go through? Is that not part of the problem?
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    Apr 11, 2010 7:42 PM GMT
    PAstud21 said
    Delivis said
    PAstud21 saidWho cares.icon_biggrin.gif

    ... All i see is negative articles against gays but then you actually leave your house and does this really happen a lot? I think not.


    So once again....WHO CARES.icon_biggrin.gif


    That's an appalling reaction to this barbaric behaviour. The article isn't alarmist, this actually happens and clearly more than you think.

    As someone said earlier in this thread, you try walk with your bf in a homophobic area in certain African countries and see if you still don't care after you're taunted, attacked, killed or imprisoned.
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    Apr 11, 2010 7:52 PM GMT
    This thing is not ONE isolated case that people think. Thousands of gay people in other parts of the world have been murdered over the past few decades and likely MANY more persecuted.

    As the article pointed out .. this sort of thing has been on the rise in these countries. Much of it has to do with "imported homophobia" brought by religious missionaries. They have set a wildfire that will not easily be put out.
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    Apr 11, 2010 7:54 PM GMT
    If you're hawking the line that this stuff is isolated, you're here with an anti-queer agenda or you're in a coma. This shit is a regular occurence and if you think you somehow look macho or removed from the gay community taking a position of detachment, you're wrong, you look like an asshole with an uppercase A.
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    Apr 11, 2010 8:05 PM GMT
    PAstud21 said
    Delivis said
    PAstud21 saidWho cares.icon_biggrin.gif


    Who cares?! Who cares that someone can have their dead gay relative's corpse dropped on their doorstep? Who cares that the ignorance, superstition, and homophobia is so rampant that such behaviour is even concievable? Really?


    Yes who cares b/c how rampant do you think this type of behavior is in the world today? Why focus on the negative scare tactics? All i see is negative articles against gays but then you actually leave your house and does this really happen a lot? I think not.


    So once again....WHO CARES.icon_biggrin.gif


    It's rampant enough that you're afraid to display your face here.
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    Apr 11, 2010 8:31 PM GMT
    the article is soo sad..and shows us how barbaric humans are.
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    Apr 11, 2010 8:36 PM GMT
    Ignorance is fucking dangerous.
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    Apr 11, 2010 8:41 PM GMT
    Delivis said
    PAstud21 said
    Delivis said
    PAstud21 saidWho cares.icon_biggrin.gif


    Who cares?! Who cares that someone can have their dead gay relative's corpse dropped on their doorstep? Who cares that the ignorance, superstition, and homophobia is so rampant that such behaviour is even concievable? Really?


    Yes who cares b/c how rampant do you think this type of behavior is in the world today? Why focus on the negative scare tactics? All i see is negative articles against gays but then you actually leave your house and does this really happen a lot? I think not.


    So once again....WHO CARES.icon_biggrin.gif


    Move to a fundamentalist Islamic country then walk out your door with a boyfriend and we'll see who cares then.


    So are you saying if this was to then happen to he, you then would not care. if so what makes your actions any better just because it happened to someone who made you angry; after all it's your anger.....
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    Apr 11, 2010 9:08 PM GMT
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    Delivis saidMove to a fundamentalist Islamic country then walk out your door with a boyfriend and we'll see who cares then.


    So are you saying if this was to then happen to he, you then would not care. if so what makes your actions any better just because it happened to someone who made you angry; after all it's your anger.....
    So are you saying you still have not gotten over yourself or your hatred for Gays and Foreigners at large? icon_rolleyes.gif if so it does make you any better than the gay-haters .. after all, it's your bitterness
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    Apr 11, 2010 9:15 PM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ saidThis truly sickens me. The idea that human beings can be so barbaric on other humans -- not to mention dead ones -- is horrifying. I wish the U.S. would cut off any and all aid to these barbaric regimes.


    icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif at the stuff in red!

    But innocent people should not suffer for the sins of the guilty. Not everyone in Senegal hates and tortures gays.

    That said, this is sad. I hope that the gay haters in Senegal and elsewhere learn the truth quickly.



    Innocent people are suffering anyway. These crooked barbaric regimes steal the aid we send those countries anyway and hardly any of it even reaches the poor innocent people.
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    Apr 11, 2010 9:15 PM GMT
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    BlkMuscleGent said
    paulflexes saidNazis were nicer than that. At least they left the dead people alone.


    Of course! Homophobia is worse than racism, right? icon_rolleyes.gif
    Whatever kind of prejudice that gets you dead is worse. If you are the gay that gets murdered or tortured because of it, I imagine homophobia is worse .. but why really the need for comparison? Why dismiss the hell that people go through? Is that not part of the problem?


    First, in both cases the victims were tortured and killed because of prejudice. And Paulflexes doesn't know whether some Nazis mangled the bodies of the Jews they killed. So, pray tell, what is your point?

    Second, I didn't dismiss the hell the gay Senegalese have gone through. I am Nigerian. I know what life-threatening homophobia is like because I've lived in Nigeria, a country where LGTB people are still persecuted unjustly. One of the reasons I'm glad to claim the U.S. as my country of residence is the freedom I have to be myself.

    Finally, in case you missed my point, I'll spell it out for you: paulflexes compared the racist white Nazis to the homophobic black Senegalese and concluded that Nazis were nicer because of a questionable assumption. Is white always better? On RealJock, it appears so. Excuse me for having a problem with that.

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    Apr 11, 2010 9:23 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    BlkMuscleGent said
    CuriousJockAZ saidThis truly sickens me. The idea that human beings can be so barbaric on other humans -- not to mention dead ones -- is horrifying. I wish the U.S. would cut off any and all aid to these barbaric regimes.


    icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif at the stuff in red!

    But innocent people should not suffer for the sins of the guilty. Not everyone in Senegal hates and tortures gays.

    That said, this is sad. I hope that the gay haters in Senegal and elsewhere learn the truth quickly.



    Innocent people are suffering anyway. These crooked barbaric regimes steal the aid we send those countries anyway and hardly any of it even reaches the poor innocent people.


    Have you ever taken your comfort-addicted self to the parts of these countries where the poor, innocent people live? Do you know, for certain, how much aid reaches these poor, innocent people?

    To both questions, I think your answer would be "no."

    And here's another thing: Don't think--for a second--that the crooked barbarism of these regimes is solely attributable to their governments. Their former colonizers are still causing trouble because of self-interest.