Fastest way to drop weight?

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    May 22, 2007 1:36 PM GMT
    Hey all,

    I'm new to the site and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for me.

    A few people that I work with have decided to have a weight loss competition. It's been going on for a couple weeks and the final weigh in is on July 1st. I'm about 5 7 and weigh 200lbs. I've been meaning to start working out for a while now and this contest was a good motivation to start. So far I've lost about 8 lbs (down from 208) just from adjusting what I eat but haven't been working out much. So far the person in the lead has lost 20 lbs and I'm sure that I can lose enough to win if I do it properly.

    I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions and tips for losing the most weight between now and July 1st. What types of exercises, foods, supplements would be best? I've also been told by a "gym rat" friend of mine to got to a sauna the morning of the weigh in to drop a bit of last minute water weight and was wondering if that was a good idea. I do intend on keeping up my weight loss after the contest is over but for now I'd just like some tips on dropping the most amount between now and then.

    Thanks guys!
  • atxclimber

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    May 22, 2007 2:41 PM GMT
    Having a competition to lose body weight is kind of dangerous, because there's a lot you can lose that isn't fat. You don't *want* to lose lean body mass, and you don't want to lose water weight. Both of those are good for you.

    I'd suggest switching your competition to a body fat loss challenge. Get a body fat analyzer and have everyone do check-ins on it first thing in the morning, before they've done any exercise (for accuracy.)

    Sadly, you can't retroactively go back and know your body fat at the start, so they may not go for the idea, especially the guy who's lost 20lbs. But I guarantee you he didn't lose 20lbs of fat in a "couple weeks." The most you can hope to reasonably lose is 1-2lbs of fat per week. If you lose more, you're losing more than just fat.
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    May 22, 2007 10:15 PM GMT
    whether you win the competition or not loosing weight is not a bad idea. Also it may be harmful to your body to suddenly "drop" a lot of weight, and it you don't make permanent changes you end up yo-yoing which is more harmful than just having stayed heavy. Also you don't just loose fat. In the first few days you probably loose quite a bit of water weight, and after that if you aren't careful with what you eat you may end up chewing up your muscle which yes will loose you weight, but also leave you worse off as muscle is key to your metabolism. At 5'7" and 200lbs that puts you at a BMI of about 31, and while maybe not as accurate as a true body fat index it does correlate with health risks. Ideally you would want it under 25. At this point you have proved you can loose weight, and I wouldn't worry so much about the competition, but set a longer goal of over a year or so of improving diet and exercise. I you do something like that the weight will come off and your coworkers will me much more impressed at the new you than if you won a weight competition.
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    May 23, 2007 1:51 AM GMT
    Way to be an idiot.

    Dehydrating yourself in the sauna is beyond moronic.

    Without having a several pictures that show what you like now, it's beyond silliness to tell you anything.

    You wanna dump weight fast? Stop eating and take thyroid. You'll look like you're from Ethiopia in no time.

    Ideally, you need to see a middle-aged fitness professional with experience.

    Increase your lean muscle mass (lift weights, and do resistance exercises) and you'll increase your base metabolic rate which will lean you out.

    Sauna's, water pills, rec drugs...are all stupid ways, and dangerous ways to lose weight.

    Eat right, and your body will be fine.

    But, a pictureless on a forum is not enough to give qualified advice.
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    May 23, 2007 2:51 AM GMT
    Wow... what a jerk. You seemed to completely miss what I was asking and just jumped straight to judging me. Just because I said that I want to drop the weight fast does NOT mean that I want to do it in an unhealthy way. I know that dropping weight in certain ways is dangerous, which is why I specifically stated "if I do it properly". That's precisely why I posted; to get tips on doing it properly. I just specifically want tips that will allow me to do it properly in the least amount of time.

    "Way to be an idiot. Dehydrating yourself in the sauna is beyond moronic."

    If you'll reread my post, you'll notice that I stated that this was what I was told by a friend of mine, and I was asking here if that was a good idea. A simple "No" would have done. Confessing my ignorance on a subject and asking for advice is hardly idiotic. If I were as idiotic as you are implying I am, I wouldn't be here asking for the proper way to go about it, I would be off snorting cocaine (in a sauna) while regurgitating my dinner.

    As for my picture.... The very first line in my post says that I am new to this site. In fact, I had literally just found it. And I hardly believe that not having a picture of myself up would prevent people from giving me some helpful tips.

    Such as....
    Yes, I know lean muscle mass raises metabolism, but what are some good exercises to build that lean muscle?

    What is are good foods or a good supplement to boost metabolism?

    Anyway, a genuine thanks to those who at least attempted to be helpful.

    And thanks to others for a warm (ha) welcome to the site... ugh.

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    May 23, 2007 3:04 AM GMT
    Please, if you are just going to flame me about the fact that I want to do this in a certain timeframe, just don't reply. You wouldn't judge a woman wanting to drop weight fast to fit into her wedding dress, would you? What I'm doing is no different. As I stated in my original post, I was already planning on losing the weight anyway, but if I can win $1000 by just doing it a bit faster, why not? I don't intend on going on another rant, but please, if you aren't replying to be helpful and just want to flame me from your high horse, don't bother.
  • MikemikeMike

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    May 23, 2007 4:37 AM GMT
    chucky u need to re -read all your posts- Especially the one on smooth or not. I have received many many e-mails for letting you know how you miss the point 9 outta 10 times. 99 % of the world prefer tall dark and handsome- not short bald, irrelevant and arrogant. You definitely have a typical Napolean complex. Google it. Your picture is on it!!
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    May 23, 2007 6:33 AM GMT
    Yes, a thousand bucks is not insignificant. Personally I don't know any metablism boosters that I would trust, but then I'm very sceptical of such things. Cutting calories and exercise is a sure way. Studies do show, however, that you initially loose the most weight on one of the high protein diets eg. atkins, south beach, or one such variation. Almost all diets will eventually produce the same amount of weight loss, but you do see a more rapid loss with these initially and then plateaus over time whereas some of the others start slow, but then you loose more later on. Yes, "dehydrating" yourself in the sauna the day of will make you weigh less, though the effect is transitory. How much? not sure but do know that the jockeys in horse racing do it so they'll be lighter when racing. Again not something I would particularly recommend, but then again doing it only on the day of the commpetition won't be the end of the world. And then of course add exercise, and probably both a mix of cardio and weights -- depending on what your time constraints are and facilities, plus do something you like. Again good luck and I admire your determination on this it will serve you well, and you will just have to keep it going after the competition. As for Chuckystud don't mind him. He has good advice, but the presentation always leaves people hopping. I liken him to quinine: effective, but not very pleasant!
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    May 23, 2007 11:49 AM GMT
    I was always skeptical about supplements and fad diets. My sister-in-law did the Body for Life program by Bill Phillips and looked great. My sister-in-law is the type to follow the program to the letter and is very determined. She looks greats. So, if she did it, it must be a good program and I decided to give it a shot for the three months.

    Well, I lost 40 pounds. Yes, I exercised longer than the 20 minutes recommended because I like to run. The program requires you to eat six meals a day. For two of them, I used the protein shakes. You are allowed a "free day" to eat whatever you want so you will not feel so deprived. That was Friday's for me when we would go out to dinner. Yet, I would still eat prudently and didn't feel like having dessert.

    All in all, I went from 235 lbs to 172 lbs in six months. That was too skinny for me. 185 lb is my ideal. In the almost four years since then, I have put on weight again due to other stresses in my life. But I always go back to the program.

    You can drop weight quickly on this program. But you must make it a life long way of living. That's the important thing.

    Good luck. And by the way, many guys go on a crash diet before some event just so they will look good. High school or college reunion coming up? You can bet guys will want to look better than their old rivals.
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    May 23, 2007 12:00 PM GMT
    Without knowing more about your situation, it's hard to make suggestions. But there are a couple of books out there which might help you. "Living Longer, Stronger" by Ellington Darden, and "Get Lean" by Keith Klein and Lee Labrada (only available on labrada's website).

    Both of these advocate balanced nutrition and exercise for healthy fat loss.

    Good luck!

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    May 23, 2007 8:18 PM GMT
    Thanks for backing me up on that guys. I even got a few emails about it. I almost didn't come back to even check after that, it really left a bad taste in my mouth. So I really appreciate the advice and support. To those who asked for more info about my situation in order to give advice... I actually am a bit familiar with fitness in general. I used to work at a gym and although I was just a salesman and not a trainer, you can't help but learn about it being in that environment. And although my weight has fluctuated in the past I DO have the determination and willpower to stick with my fitness goals, in fact, the only reason I'm at my current weight is .. well, my boyfriend loves it. lol. I didn't intentionally gain the weight for him, I just didn't do anything to lose it. He prefers me to be a bit chubby. And I'm just too the point where I'm just not happy with it myself. Even though he loves me and it's a huge turn on for him, I'm just not comfortable in my own skin anymore. I was a bit worried that he wouldn't be attracted to me anymore if I lost the weight, but I know he loves me and I'm sure the confidence that I'll get from losing it will be even more of a turn on.

    About my body as it is:
    I'm 5' 7" and am about 200lbs. Most of this is actually muscle, although not lean muscle. Like I said, I have been fit in the past and I've just gained weight over it. I have a decent upper body, if I just lose the fat that's now there, the underlying muscles will look very nice, I won't need to develop that much. Most of my weight seems to go around my mid section, but even so, I do wear it well. I will get some pictures up soon, but most people who know (such as the other coworkers in the contest) say that I do not look like I weight 200lbs. I actually COULD stand to lose a bit of muscle in my opinion. I actually do not want to be very muscular. My measurements right now (approximate) are 40" chest, 36" waist. Those are the things I'm most concerned about.

    I hope this other info helps enough to give some more detailed advice, but I'll get some pics up soon.

    Thanks again guys.
  • atxclimber

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    May 23, 2007 9:50 PM GMT
    A thousand bucks? Okay, I'd lose some water weight and whatnot for a grand.

    In that case, I'd have a good time with it and get hammered the night before the weigh-in; you'll piss out a ton of water and show up super-hungover for the weigh-in, but you'll weigh less for it! If you've gotta be dehydrated, I'd rather do it that way than by sitting in a sauna.

    As for other unhealthy weight loss techniques, find a high school wrestler and ask him. All the wrestlers in my high school did the zaniest things to get into the lowest possible weight classes -- cutting donuts into 30 pieces, spitting into cups all day, taking laxatives, etc, etc.

    But if you do all that stuff, acknowledge that you're sacrificing lean muscle and probably a little health for the thousand bucks. But, like I said, I wouldn't fault you for it. I try to be healthy and all, but I get hangovers on occasion and nobody's paying me a grand to do it. ;)
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    May 23, 2007 10:25 PM GMT
    Ok, would you please read all the above posts again? I think I've said enough by now that I'm looking to do this in a healthy way. Perhaps I didn't make that clear enough in my original post (for some stupid reason I felt it was implied), but I've made it more than clear in my subsequent posts. I'm not just looking to "lose a bunch of water weight" for 1000 bucks. I swear.... one line about going to sauna to drop a bit of water weight the day of the final weigh in and somehow I'm intending to win by going to a sauna and sitting there until I've lost every bit of water in my body. Talk about taking things out of context.

    I'll reiterate:

    I'm looking for HEALTHY ways of losing weight and building lean muscle, but I'm looking for the fastest OF those ways and anything that can speed up the process.
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    May 23, 2007 10:53 PM GMT
    If I was in your spot, I would run, run and then run some more.....everyday; twice a day for an hour. Focus on duration, moderate to high speed but don't jock it out.

    split my meals 5-6 times a day, breakfast being largest and then small portions [1 cup / small bowl]

    drink lots of water!

    i would also make sure the protein to carb ratio is greater than one. Focus on whole foods with high-glycemic indices. Essentially, don't eat anything that came in a box.

    won't eat anything beyond 7PM

    Sleep by 9PM

    if at anytime you have a hunger pang drink a cup of warm skimmed milk.

    Breakfast with oatmeal containing a serving of high-glycemic whey [protein powder with almost no carbs; the one I use has 24 gms of proteins and 3gms of carbs]

    Bedtime, a cup of non-fat yogurt with a serving of high-glycemic whey.

    Goodluck! and please don't let chuckystud bother you. Not even one of his posts make any sense...enuf said
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    May 23, 2007 11:33 PM GMT
    PSBigJoey has it right, and said the same thing I did, in a nut shell.

    Good advice / truth isn't always PC. The advice I gave is sound, professional, and truthful. The response from the pictureless is predictable, if nothing else.

    You can lead a horse to water, but, not make the horse drink.

    No matter. At the end of the day, I neither require, nor seek, your approval. I already have my trophies, and ratings, and 31 years of training under my belt, which, frankly, speak for themselves.

    If you were offended by someone telling you that putting your body in harm's way is stupid, then, I did a very good thing: I got your attention.

    And, lashing out, is, I swear, part of the gay condition. Your efforts would be better guided in getting off your ass and researching this for yourself.
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    May 24, 2007 1:17 AM GMT
    There's so much wrong with that, I don't even know where to start. And so I'm not even going to try. You clearly must not be capable of reading or are too lazy, because I see no other explanation of how you just can't seem to grasp what I mean. So please, do me/us all a favor and just stay away from my thread, you have nothing useful to contribute and I'd like to get back to "getting off my ass and researching".

  • atxclimber

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    May 24, 2007 2:20 AM GMT
    I actually wasn't being sarcastic, I'd totally lose some water weight for a thousand bucks.

    But more to the point, if you are up against a coworker who has lost 20lbs in just a few weeks, then you have no chance of winning by losing weight in a healthy way. Losing 20lbs in a few weeks is not sensibly building lean mass and losing fat at a healthy pace. It's shedding body weight in any form possible.

    You mentioned how you wanted to lose weight and hey, might as well win the grand along with it, so I was just saying, if you want the grand, be prepared to lose more than fat initially.

    I'm still totally serious, I'd get dehydrated and lose some muscle temporarily for a thousand bucks. :)
  • GQjock

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    May 24, 2007 10:38 AM GMT
    Be careful...
    this is the kind of stuff that sends people into the hospital
    weight loss should never be drastic
    if it is--then it's water weight that you're losing and you need that for survival
    stay away from the sauna
    up the exercise if you want that will burn off excess cals
    but stay with a fairly lo-cal diet
    one thats well-rounded with lo-carbs hi-protein and lo-fat