do you guys notice any changes?

  • Thebiguy

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    Apr 15, 2010 5:51 AM GMT
    I started working out in january.. i feel like giving up cause i dont see much gains.... i feel that my form sucks.. especially for chest dips..

    before:
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    now:
    http://s869.photobucket.com/albums/ab254/rally2233/?action=view&current=IMG00026-20100415-0052.jpg&newest=1
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    Apr 15, 2010 6:07 AM GMT
    Thebiguy saidI started working out in january.. i feel like giving up cause i dont see much gains.... i feel that my form sucks.. especially for chest dips..

    before:
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    I see more definition in your recent pic. Try not to use appearance as a guide for progress, particularly since you're just starting out. I'm sure you can feel your muscles developing. It's just a matter of time before you'll look the way you feel, if that makes any sense.

    Personally, it took me almost a year to see a visual difference. Mainly because I was still learning about nutrition, and didn't get my diet dialed in until much later.

    Just continue to workout hard and eat right. And eventually you'll notice a difference.
  • gallus81

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    Apr 15, 2010 11:34 AM GMT
    you want to give up? pull your head in man! don't be so silly.

    I'm naturally skinny, and it took until the last 2 years before I finally got some results; I've been working out for over 10 years.

    you have a naturally heavier build, and if you've had those results in only a few months, imagine what you'll achieve by the end of the year.

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    Apr 15, 2010 11:54 AM GMT
    I concur with the comments above -- you're getting leaner. Contrary to what the bold titles on the muscle mags will say, you aren't going to change your body overnight. It's a commitment and takes time to see results.

    I've been gymmin' it 11 years and just now feel like I'm getting the body I've always wanted. Two huge differences for me in the past year: I hired a personal trainer who knows his shit, and I've finally been really strict on my diet. Got me into my first bodybuilding competition.

    Stick with it, kiddo. We all started somewhere and we all know the frustration of feeling like it's too slow. Working out is a science -- find out everything you can from reliable sources about applying that science to your everyday life. You'll be successful in the long run. Think of the dumb jocks you knew in high school, if they could do it without thinking, you can do it.

    Cheers!
  • PatrickD81

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    Apr 16, 2010 1:15 PM GMT
    Thebiguy saidI started working out in january.. i feel like giving up cause i dont see much gains.... i feel that my form sucks.. especially for chest dips..

    before:
    http://s869.photobucket.com/albums/ab254/rally2233/?action=view&current=DSCN0070.jpg&newest=1

    now:
    http://s869.photobucket.com/albums/ab254/rally2233/?action=view&current=IMG00026-20100415-0052.jpg&newest=1


    You've been working out since January, and it's only April. That's 3 months. Dude, I started working out in November, and I've only now started seeing some big gains. That's 5 months.

    One thing I've learned from my personal trainers at my gym, bodybuilding takes time. It's not going to be an overnight process. You have to work at it.

    Furthermore, your diet accounts for 80% of regimen. If you're not eating 6 small meals a day, then you're not getting your metabolism up, nor are you getting enough protein.

    I'm assuming you're using one of the workout plans from RealJock? If not, then I would suggest you do either the Strength Foundation or the Muscle-Building.

    But regardless...you need to give it a little more time.
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    Apr 16, 2010 1:30 PM GMT
    You're doing fine.... great, in fact. Keep at it.
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    Apr 16, 2010 2:45 PM GMT
    PatrickD81 said If you're not eating 6 small meals a day, then you're not getting your metabolism up, nor are you getting enough protein.


    Not quite right. 6 "meals" a day is not a magic pill. If you are eating bizarre crap 6 times a day you are not going to look good. But the basic idea is right. Eat smaller, often and only allow yourself 2 or 3 "splurges" a week. Pizza and ice cream is 2.

    yes there is a difference, yes diet is as big a deal and yes form matters. Just keep working. Only lucky people like me can see results in 3 months.
  • stratavos

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    Apr 16, 2010 8:39 PM GMT
    you are getting progress. My mom told me that it takes a minimum of 2 months to gain from exercising, and only 2 weeks to loose it. The longer that you exercise for (over time) the better it gets. You might not feel like you gained much, but with your picture comparison, you now have the start of a chest and abs. Before they weren't even visible.

    Keep at it ;)
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    May 06, 2010 2:55 PM GMT
    stick at it pal....all the signs are there

    it took me a year plus to feel i had grown....get ur diet, sleep and hydration right, mix it up with ur workouts and you will see gains month by month

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  • May 12, 2010 4:20 PM GMT
    Don't give man, I've been hitting the gym hard and serious for only the las 3 and half years and finally seeing and feeling the results not to mention lifting what I didn't think I could. Looks like you have been "blessed" with the same body type I have he semi stocky bulid (also heard it called mesomorph) which if that's the case you'll be fine all you need is time like someone posted it's not an overnight process which to I like to add it's a life time commitment. And from what I can tell from the comparison pics looks like you do have some development in the pecs and smaller stomach. Just keep with it.
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    May 12, 2010 4:40 PM GMT
    Don't give up! I see more definition in the 2nd pic and it takes a LONG time but you can do it. Make sure you do a lot of cardio also!
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    May 12, 2010 4:43 PM GMT
    I see a major improvement. Looks like u need to do at least 45 minutes of cardio, 3 -5 times a week to get the lean cut look.icon_wink.gif
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    May 12, 2010 5:04 PM GMT
    I understand that the original poster came here seeking validation / praise. He has deep issues of self esteem and is afraid to show his face, complete his profile, and do any effort other than the minimalist amount, and I suspect that's also his practice across the board in a wide number of areas, including his training efforts, because he also wants to do minimal effort there, and is threatening to quit because he doesn't have discipline, knowledge, nor stick-to-it-iveness.

    Given the information presented, he may as well quit, unless he changes his attitude.

    Here's some free advice: anything worth doing should be worth doing well, whether it's working at McDonald's, posting a profile here, or hitting the weight room. You only go around once, and while being smart is important, effort, and attention to detail are critical to accomplishing goals. Any person who has been successful will tell you luck played a role, but, also, smarts, and persistence.

    I'm in my 34'th year of lifting. Even after three decades, I constantly study on how I might achieve my training goals.

    The original poster would do well to find a mentor, and rather than complain, and come up with a plan for failure research, listen, plan for success, and be persistent, while using some intelligence in executing that plan to reach a stated goal.

    When I train for a contest, I'll give myself 18 to 24 weeks to transform my appearance. Right now, Logan and I have been busy with things other than lifting (the business) and I've not hit the gym in three weeks, but, I know that given just a couple of weeks back, I can pick up where I left off. I've been doing it for 3 1/2 decades.

    More free advice: Eat. Yes, eat. You can't train if you don't eat. Sleep. You need recovery. Do HIIT on the stairs if you want to get leaner, and EAT.

    24 weeks of diet, and 18 weeks of three-a-day workouts, along with critical attention to nutrition, rest, and disciplined attention to detail allows one to get like this, but...understand...this was working out 3 times a day...you have to be realistic. You have to do HIIT if you want to get leaner. You have to eat if you want to be able to maintain muscle mass and exercise intensity. That's the facts.

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    Now, the original poster needs to get off his ass, study up, experiment, find a mentor, or do whatever to make a plan for success, rather than a plan for failure.

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    May 12, 2010 5:12 PM GMT
    prometheuscowboy saidDon't give man, I've been hitting the gym hard and serious for only the las 3 and half years and finally seeing and feeling the results not to mention lifting what I didn't think I could. Looks like you have been "blessed" with the same body type I have he semi stocky bulid (also heard it called mesomorph) which if that's the case you'll be fine all you need is time like someone posted it's not an overnight process which to I like to add it's a life time commitment. And from what I can tell from the comparison pics looks like you do have some development in the pecs and smaller stomach. Just keep with it.


    The original poster would do well to embrace his somatype, rather than fight it. He should make a plan for success, and ditch the negative crap. Right now, he's "needy" and not being objective. That "needy" is indicative of other underlying issues that need addressed. It's not just the training.
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    May 12, 2010 5:15 PM GMT
    masculine31 saidI see a major improvement. Looks like u need to do at least 45 minutes of cardio, 3 -5 times a week to get the lean cut look.icon_wink.gif


    This is bad advice, and will compromise muscle, as well as cause burnout.

    High intensity HIIT, for 12 to 20 minutes, is 7 to 9 times more effective at fat burn, and has not just the added benefit of being time-effective, but, it increases cardiac threshold much more than steady state cardio as well, and compromises considerably less lean muscle mass.

    HIIT is a much faster, simpler, less compromising, less time consuming way to get better fat burn.

    HIIT at about 12 minutes each time to start, EVERY DAY, would be a good place to start. Endless hours of cardio are highly counter-productive to lean muscle mass, and can cause metabolic lag if calories aren't high enough.

    That means..playing basketball, running lines, sprinting bleachers, doing stairs, etc. Start stop balls to the wall.

    HIIT has MUCH better metabolic activation than old style cardio.

    If you're a Real Jock, think football practice, basketball practice, wrestling practice, fast and hard...rest...repeat.
  • neosyllogy

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    May 12, 2010 5:46 PM GMT
    Are you lifting more weight / doing more reps than last time for >= 90% of your workouts?
    If not, then you're doing something wrong (could be routine, could be food / sleep, but probably one or more of those three).
    Figure it out (get advice if need be) and start over again.

    Glancing at the photos in this thread I'd say you should "give up" what you're doing and you should do something new instead.

    (I made a number of aborted tries to get fit before I found the right 'way'. This can require some fiddling. [In my case a lot of it was usually doing too much and not eating enough -- but everyone's different.])
  • neosyllogy

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    May 12, 2010 5:52 PM GMT
    chuckystud said
    masculine31 saidI see a major improvement. Looks like u need to do at least 45 minutes of cardio, 3 -5 times a week to get the lean cut look.icon_wink.gif


    This is bad advice, and will compromise muscle, as well as cause burnout.



    Do what get's you your goals, but, broadly, i agree with chuck. (no comment on "HIIT")

    You seem like you want to add muscle since your lifting so I'd stick with weights for a while from a general fitness / personal happiness perspective. There's no reason you shouldn't drop body fat % lifting weights (with a reasonable diet).

    It will also be much easier to lose further fat doing a sport or cardio of your choice later if you have lots of metabolically expensive muscle working for you..

    (People get fit doing all sorts of things though. Rock climbing and boxing and gymnastics are good too. Do what makes you happy.)
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    May 12, 2010 6:52 PM GMT
    I think you have made some great progress. Don't give up...Keep going
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    May 12, 2010 7:21 PM GMT
    Seriously man, there's a big difference between those two pics, honestly.
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    May 12, 2010 8:15 PM GMT
    Brit_Bloke saidSeriously man, there's a big difference between those two pics, honestly.

    I am sure he can see that there is a difference between those pics. This is Attention Whoredom at its finest on RJ. Self inflicted pity party as an excuse to show his pics and attention. For christ's sake, just show the damn pics and say "See the progress I've made." ... icon_rolleyes.gif ... If he can't see the difference, it's not his body that needs examining, but his head.

    If one wants to call attention to oneself, such as to show one's accomplishment, that's fine, but have the balls to do so honestly.
  • coolarmydude

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    May 12, 2010 8:28 PM GMT
    I understand that chuckystud came here seeking validation / praise. He has deep issues of self esteem and is afraid to show his penis...
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    LMAO!!! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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    May 12, 2010 8:49 PM GMT
    coolarmydude saidI understand that chuckystud came here seeking validation / praise. He has deep issues of self esteem and is afraid to show his penis...

    I'm "afraid" to show my penis online. Isn't that, er ... normal?

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    LMAO!!! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
  • coolarmydude

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    May 12, 2010 10:45 PM GMT
    It was a joke. icon_rolleyes.gif