The Master Cleanse/ Lemonade Diet

  • cowboyupnorth

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    Jan 26, 2008 5:42 PM GMT
    Ok I know a lot of people do not agree with fasting but I want to see if anyone had done this.

    My issue is I weigh between 178-182lbs. I am 5'11" so I think my BMI is 25. I have a Tanita scale that states I am between 17-19% body fat. I want to get down to 168% or 12% body fat. My weight has not changed in over 60 days regardless of how much I work out.

    I eat fairly well and have the 6 meals per day trying to always mix a carbohydrate with a protein. I eat a lot of organic fresh vegetables and fruits. I only drink green tea, or Yerba Mate' other then wine with dinner or at night. I will eat poorly maybe 2X per month when eating out with friends. On those days I will normally do 2 hrs of cardio that day and have often burned as much as 2000 cal per my hart rate monitor.

    I run a 5K 3 times a week at 80% MHR and I do Tae Bo 3X a week. In addiction I will ride my bike 50 miles per week but at 60% MHR while watching TV.

    I think if I can get the weight off I can keep it off. I am not a body builder I just want to be tone and fit. I hope to run a half marathon this summer and friends say just stay the course and I will look great by summer. I have read that fasting also leaves you feeling better with more energy at the end. So I am thinking, why not give it a try? I might lose and and feel better with more energy how could I find fault with that.
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    Jan 26, 2008 6:25 PM GMT
    Whatever happened to good 'ole prunes?
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    Jan 26, 2008 7:08 PM GMT
    I have done this. It is definitely a mind over matter deal. I was never hungry, actually. The sight or smell of food made me think of it, but overall I felt completely nourished and focused. I was never tired, light headed or weak. Just keep the spicy lemonade within reach and you're good. I was amazed at what I thought I needed to survive and what our bodies actually need. I never felt better and slowly worked back into a healthier diet. I lost 11 pounds and only gained 1.5 back in 6 months time. Best of luck, and don't let your head talk you out of making the 10 day run. I almost wanted to go longer, but the need to chew something was a stronger pull!
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    Jan 26, 2008 7:16 PM GMT
    For a more sincere answer, Just lower your calories and do lots of cardio. Over a year ago, I wanted to become more cut. So I did 30 to 60 mins of cardio 5 days a week and took a supplement called Hot-Rox and dropped down to 155. My goal wasn't to become that thin it just happened.

    I didn't like how skinny my arms and legs looked, so I dropped the Hot-Rox, dropped the cardio, and bulked back up by eating more protein, working out harder and adding a few other supplements.

    I think any weight loss you get by water eliminating diets will just come right back.

    By the way, cardio while watching TV is great. You can burn lots of calories with what seems to be little effort. The other stuff you are doing sounds good too. Just watch what you eat and stay fit.
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    Jan 26, 2008 7:26 PM GMT
    I've never heard of this....but if it's only ten days...try it and see. How bad could it possibly be?

    Ghandi went WAY longer than ten days...though I'm not sure thats the look you're going for.

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    Jan 26, 2008 8:12 PM GMT
    So I am thinking, why not give it a try?

    From what I've read, most of the weight lost will be muscle, not body fat.
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    Jan 26, 2008 8:15 PM GMT
    Cowboy that just isn't healthy. Your body goes into survival mode instantly and you burn up the muscle you have worked so hard to build.

    Leaning out your eating plan is the only way to get over a plateau.

    It is all just math, calories burned, calories consumed. The variable is not to shock your system with super high intensity training our super low calorie dieting.

    You want to lose altitude elegantly, like a Boeing coming in for a landing.

    Good health to you,
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    Jan 26, 2008 8:50 PM GMT
    I do not recommend the master cleanse/lemonade diet...

    Trust me, I went on it 12 days before Thanksgiving 2006, and yes it is true, you will be surprised how easy it is to do it. You will not starve but what happened to me is I became malnourished, partly because the master cleanse says not to take any multivitamin or anything like that because it will destroy the results..which is kinda stupid to believe.....
    I did however lost 18 pounds in the 2 weeks, gained about 8 pounds back over the course of a month(water weight)...
    but the after effect was I was fatigued all the time and basically was lethargic 24/7 I was iron deficient from it as well as vitamin deficient.
    I recommend keep doing your workout, and just eat sensible meals, make sure you are consuming enough protein, fiber and water..and make sure you rest enough too...
    the thing the diet did teach me was will power...Everyone would eat their food in front of me and I had my bottle of the concoction and drank it.. Even went to the ale house in ft lauderdale with friends as they got burgers and fried foods...I sat with my lemonade drink and drank it icon_smile.gif...
    but if u can do that u can do any eating habit, I would choose the latter and stay clear of the master cleanse
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    Jan 26, 2008 8:55 PM GMT
    I do the cleanse every couple of months but just for a few days (if that).

    It's not meant for losing weight and it highly recommended that you don't do any extra physical labor than required - that includes bike riding. Most of the weight lost is intestinal mucus and food waste. And I agree with Ursamajor that you'll lose muscle before fat.

    I would say if you're going to do it, only do it for two or three days and your main focus should turn back to the food you're eating. And it seems like you're eating well, but try switching it up a bit.
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    Jan 27, 2008 6:06 PM GMT
    you are over training for your calorie consumption more by the sound of it so your fat loss will be slow.
    Having said that I dont know your calorie intake but if you say you are burning 2000 calories then the body is not got alot to run on.

    If you are training for a marathon then it makes sense you will need to eat accordingly as you cant run on an empty tank, so as well as fat stores, muscle, bones and teeth are all going to get nutrients drawn away from in a bid to support that fat loss goal and maintain vital systems.

    Best thing you could do is keep a food diary for a week, and then come back with that backed up with your training log and see where you are going how low you are dipping and whats not working for you.

    In the absence of the aforementioned probably the best thing I bet you could do right now to kick that weightloss of is add 500 calories and then cycle it back down over the next few weeks to where you are now.

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    Jan 27, 2008 9:17 PM GMT
    Yes there was a girl, about 130lbs, we called her crazy pony girl, because she failed every class, did nothing but talk about her ponies. And always had a fight over who had to take her for group projects

    She wanders in to Home Ec class with a two liter bottle of liquid and said something along the lines of I'm on this new diet Where I eat six juiced lemons for breakfast, lunch and dinner and I've lost three pounds already.

    Long story short, she collapsed after two weeks and had to have 2 grands worth of reenameling done to her front teeth.

    She did shift about ten pounds and promptly gained twenty pounds.

    And then she was known as crazy anorexic pony girl
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    Jan 27, 2008 9:31 PM GMT
    Yes, I have done this one for 8 days. I do believe in fasts for the SOLE purpose of flushing the body--not for losing weight. And once you've completed the cleanse you'll likely regain any weight lost anyway.
    I didn't notice any muscle loss or any of the negative aspects many people (who have never tried it) associate with the cleanse. It was difficult, but I found that it was worth it. I felt great emotional stability and mental clarity. Being a fair skinned white boy (thanks for the Irish DNA, ma!) I would burn just looking at the sun. Now I tan instead of burn. I also noticed that I don't bruise as easily as I used to and my skin doesn't get as dry.
    I don't think that taking a break from food every so often is a terrible thing, but when you do it to lose weight you cross the line into an eating disorder. It's not for everyone. I suggest you do LOTS of research before beginning this process. There are specific protocol to follow prior to beginning a cleanse like this. It can be dangerous if not done properly.
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    Jan 28, 2008 1:55 AM GMT

    I saw the picture of you in the hoody, that must have been after the cleanse, lol