gay acting???

  • SamSam

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    Apr 16, 2010 12:24 PM GMT
    Hey i was just wondering, is it posible to be stright and fake being gay??
    If you have ever known for this to happen tell me about it please. lol

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    Apr 16, 2010 12:37 PM GMT
    xXvampXx saidHey i was just wondering, is it posible to be stright and fake being gay??
    If you have ever known for this to happen tell me about it please. lol



    i'm trying to figure out why anyone would do that except to lure you into a dark field, tie you to a fence, and beat the hell out of you with a baseball bat.

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    Apr 16, 2010 12:39 PM GMT
    I don’t know why anyone would want to fake it.
    I have had a couple Straight friends that have very feminine qualities and usual thought of as being gay. They get upset about it.
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    Apr 16, 2010 12:43 PM GMT
    Please define "fake being gay." Do you mean assuming the stereotypical effeminate characteristics? Actors do it all the time for a role. Do you mean simply stating that one is gay, or actually performing gay sex acts? If the latter, it makes it more likely that the guy is genuinely gay and not faking it.

    I have never encountered a straight guy who has pretended to be gay in his ordinary life, except briefly as a joke or for an acting part, as mentioned above. Given the discrimination, hatred and disadvantages associated with being gay, at least in the US, I can think of few motivations for a straight to do it. What circumstances do you have in mind?
  • Nayro

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    Apr 16, 2010 1:03 PM GMT
    rangard said
    xXvampXx saidHey i was just wondering, is it posible to be stright and fake being gay??
    If you have ever known for this to happen tell me about it please. lol



    i'm trying to figure out why anyone would do that except to lure you into a dark field, tie you to a fence, and beat the hell out of you with a baseball bat.



    you saw that movie too? Whats it called again.... its sad..
  • DanBasil

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    Apr 16, 2010 1:52 PM GMT
    I know some guys who use that as their "game" to get girls defenses down around them, it's disgusting.
    Other than that I haven't noticed it too much.
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    Apr 16, 2010 2:06 PM GMT
    I've met a few (allegedly straight) guys who are quite effeminate, and at a first impression you'd assume they were gay, which they claim not to be.

    I know that's a bit different, cos they are not deliberately acting gay, everybody just think they are LOL (they could just be closet cases of course)
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    Apr 16, 2010 2:33 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidPlease define "fake being gay." Do you mean assuming the stereotypical effeminate characteristics? Actors do it all the time for a role. Do you mean simply stating that one is gay, or actually performing gay sex acts? If the latter, it makes it more likely that the guy is genuinely gay and not faking it.

    I have never encountered a straight guy who has pretended to be gay in his ordinary life, except briefly as a joke or for an acting part, as mentioned above. Given the discrimination, hatred and disadvantages associated with being gay, at least in the US, I can think of few motivations for a straight to do it. What circumstances do you have in mind?


    I'm pretty sure he's equating effeminacy with being "gay" and masculinity with being "straight". Both of which have nothing to do with sexual orientation but are attributed to orientation nonetheless.
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    Apr 16, 2010 3:47 PM GMT
    xXvampXx saidHey i was just wondering, is it posible to be stright and fake being gay??
    If you have ever known for this to happen tell me about it please. lol



    Hm, I'm thinking Vamp is wanting to make a point here maybe. Hence the "lol" at the end of his post. I.e. maybe he's prompting us to deconstruct and be critical of the phrase and value we attach to "straight acting."

    Many of us have learned, often out of necessity for our own safety, which social cues communicate masculinity and power to those around us: how (presumably) straight men behave in ways that communicate entitlement to things/space/attention/righteousness through their body language and attitudes; their being emotionally detached and rational (or repressed) and therefore strong; downplaying vulnerabilities (health symptoms, emotional and social needs); particular ways of dressing; drinking; etc. And we know there is power/privilege that gets thrust upon men who carry themselves in these particular ways, because masculinity (and independence, individualism, rationalism) is so idealized in this culture. And much of this really is just a costume that even authentically straight men feel burdened to wear.

    Nowadays, people are beginning to understand that gender and sexuality aren't necessarily linked, thanks especially to those in the trans community. There is a first level of biologically assigned gender (M/F/Intersexed), a 2nd level of gender identity (where on the gender spectrum, if anywhere, do I feel most authentically aligned?), and the third is how is gender expressed outwardly. Separate from all of this is sexuality. Like Dragoon mentioned above, we equate any variation in gender expression to some variation in sexuality, too - which is not equatable. Which is a double threat to the arbitrary power bestowed upon men who take up this costume of gender, as being associated with and/or even just witnessing a man who might express some form of gender non-conformity kind of reminds this person that their socially-derived power is fairly tentative and arbitrary.

    SO. Why would a straight man want to 'act gay'? Which could mean many things - effeminate, emotional, campy humor, whatever. Why, when he would be in a position to lose power and privilege.

    Which then begs the question: why would a gay man want to 'act straight'?
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    Apr 16, 2010 4:26 PM GMT
    Why does either have to be referred to as an act?
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    Apr 16, 2010 4:34 PM GMT
    Dragoonxi saidWhy does either have to be referred to as an act?


    Good point, seems to connote that there is something less than authentic going on, like pretending. But I guess the word "act" means "behave" in this context, which could either be authentic or not.

    Though, I'm not really sure how much 'gender' is just a socially-constructed act anyway. Aren't we all some mix of different traits that are categorized by our specific culture as "male/female"?
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    Apr 16, 2010 5:09 PM GMT
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    Dragoonxi saidWhy does either have to be referred to as an act?


    Good point, seems to connote that there is something less than authentic going on, like pretending. But I guess the word "act" means "behave" in this context, which could either be authentic or not.


    act = behaving

    act ≠ pretending (unless you're really cynical)
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    Apr 16, 2010 6:07 PM GMT
    xXvampXx saidHey i was just wondering, is it posible to be stright and fake being gay??
    If you have ever known for this to happen tell me about it please. lol


    Yes, and the guy was a creep. My straight female friend "J" and her gay make friend "T" were out one night and met a guy, who I will call "Creep".

    J and T were rooming together in the same apartment. One night, J and T met Creep out at a party, and Creep started hanging with them. Creep was being all attentive to T, and T thought that Creep was gay. When T asked Creep to come home with them, Creep went with them. Once the three of them got home, Creep turned his attention to J. This confused J and T. When confronted, Creep said that he knew that the way he could get to the straight girl is through her gay male friend.

    They booted him out.

    Creepy. Kind of like @rangard's comment about luring somebody into a dark field. I agree with @rangard.
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    Apr 16, 2010 8:05 PM GMT
    xXvampXx saidHey i was just wondering, is it posible to be stright and fake being gay??
    If you have ever known for this to happen tell me about it please. lol

    Yes. It's called being metrosexual.
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    Apr 16, 2010 8:06 PM GMT
    time and opportunity
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    Apr 16, 2010 8:08 PM GMT
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    Apr 16, 2010 11:17 PM GMT
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