Disappointment in Love

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    Apr 18, 2010 2:36 PM GMT
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126052271E

    This interview with Michael J. Fox is impressive.

    I catch myself living for some future when my relationships will be better, my family more loving, my career more solid, etc...

    Bullshit, I have more than enough now (especially love).

    Being gay, being human, loving, can bring lots of disappointments, but it seems that there may be many great rewards in that journey when I embrace all of it. Most people I meet, especially in the western world, have more than enough.

    Michael J FoxI think you learn more from disappointment. I think success loses its sheen after a while and you being to see that there is no such thing ass absolute success. There's always failure. And there's always disappointment. And there's always loss. But the secret is learning from the loss, and realizing that none of those holes are vacuums. They’ll be filled up. And if you try to fill them up with ego or a kind of immediate gratification you’re going to short shrift yourself and you’re going to lose the opportunity to find out what happens when you give the loss space to fill itself and let life kind of come in and fill the cracks.


    I'm sharing this as it might be helpful, sometimes one hears lots of whining when talking to gay people about love and satisfaction (including me)...
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    Apr 18, 2010 4:14 PM GMT
    gays have it easier. instead of shooting our kids and wife before blowing our heads up we go cry buckets in the shower... or other suitable place like your best friend's kitchen.
    and then we see another guy " hm, he's cute" .. and off we go again.

    --

    but seriously being gay can or cannot give you a different outlook on life but over all we all -straight, gay, male, female -go through the same ordeals in life.
    The ability not to feel sorry for oneself is the main tool but it's no fun to use.

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    Apr 29, 2010 5:45 PM GMT
    xassantex saidgays have it easier. instead of shooting our kids and wife before blowing our heads up we go cry buckets in the shower... or other suitable place like your best friend's kitchen.
    and then we see another guy " hm, he's cute" .. and off we go again.

    --

    but seriously being gay can or cannot give you a different outlook on life but over all we all -straight, gay, male, female -go through the same ordeals in life.
    The ability not to feel sorry for oneself is the main tool but it's no fun to use.



    I completely disagree. The experience of being gay differs substantially from our straight counterparts. They don't have to deal with many of the social setbacks and stigmas that we endure, nor the political and legal restrictions that gays face. They also have a much greater possibility of finding someone they are compatible with due to simple numbers.
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    Apr 29, 2010 5:57 PM GMT
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    xassantex saidgays have it easier. instead of shooting our kids and wife before blowing our heads up we go cry buckets in the shower... or other suitable place like your best friend's kitchen.
    and then we see another guy " hm, he's cute" .. and off we go again.

    --

    but seriously being gay can or cannot give you a different outlook on life but over all we all -straight, gay, male, female -go through the same ordeals in life.
    The ability not to feel sorry for oneself is the main tool but it's no fun to use.



    I completely disagree. The experience of being gay differs substantially from our straight counterparts. They don't have to deal with many of the social setbacks and stigmas that we endure, nor the political and legal restrictions that gays face. They also have a much greater possibility of finding someone they are compatible with due to simple numbers.



    WOW you disagree thats shocking
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    Apr 29, 2010 6:00 PM GMT
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    sacredgranola said
    xassantex saidgays have it easier. instead of shooting our kids and wife before blowing our heads up we go cry buckets in the shower... or other suitable place like your best friend's kitchen.
    and then we see another guy " hm, he's cute" .. and off we go again.

    --

    but seriously being gay can or cannot give you a different outlook on life but over all we all -straight, gay, male, female -go through the same ordeals in life.
    The ability not to feel sorry for oneself is the main tool but it's no fun to use.



    I completely disagree. The experience of being gay differs substantially from our straight counterparts. They don't have to deal with many of the social setbacks and stigmas that we endure, nor the political and legal restrictions that gays face. They also have a much greater possibility of finding someone they are compatible with due to simple numbers.



    WOW you disagree thats shocking


    I don't disagree when my mind tells me you need to shut the fuck up.

    How's that?

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    Apr 29, 2010 6:12 PM GMT
    sacredgranola said
    naivenewbie said
    sacredgranola said
    xassantex saidgays have it easier. instead of shooting our kids and wife before blowing our heads up we go cry buckets in the shower... or other suitable place like your best friend's kitchen.
    and then we see another guy " hm, he's cute" .. and off we go again.

    --

    but seriously being gay can or cannot give you a different outlook on life but over all we all -straight, gay, male, female -go through the same ordeals in life.
    The ability not to feel sorry for oneself is the main tool but it's no fun to use.



    I completely disagree. The experience of being gay differs substantially from our straight counterparts. They don't have to deal with many of the social setbacks and stigmas that we endure, nor the political and legal restrictions that gays face. They also have a much greater possibility of finding someone they are compatible with due to simple numbers.



    WOW you disagree thats shocking


    I don't disagree when my mind tells me you need to shut the fuck up.

    How's that?




    Your pretty scary. You have a lot of problems little guy. You have no reason to be on this site, you should leave. Your obviously a bitter asshole who hates the world. Im sure you have many friends too. Have you ever had sex that wasnt just rape or molesting a child? I bet your really ugly too, or you would have pics up probably haha. Do you think about killing yourself? Dont do it you have a lot to offer.
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    May 06, 2011 6:46 AM GMT
    Actually - I think "Hidden Member" has some valid points. Despite 'universal experiences' one cannot directly compare the options and rights of straight people to their "gay counterparts". To me it is unquestionable there are MANY significant advantages straight people have - even if they (or you) don't see it that way.

    That said - how we deal with setbacks has personal AND universal options and approaches. I feel there is always room to learn from other peoples setbacks, experiences, and wisdom - across the entire human spectrum.