Sarah Palin is an environmentalist?

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    Apr 19, 2010 4:54 AM GMT
    Read and be disgusted!

    http://www.credoaction.com/campaign/palin_discovery2/
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    Apr 19, 2010 5:05 PM GMT
    Miazgowicz saidRead and be disgusted!

    Link directly and be disgusted quicker:

    http://www.credoaction.com/campaign/palin_discovery2/
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    Apr 19, 2010 5:13 PM GMT
    Why does the thought of her being torn limb from bloody limb by a hungry polar bear make me giggle uncontrollably?
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    Apr 19, 2010 5:37 PM GMT
    GuerrillaSodomite saidWhy does the thought of her being torn limb from bloody limb by a hungry polar bear make me giggle uncontrollably?



    I stated that I hated Palin on another thread, and some moron gave me shit about it. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one.
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    Apr 19, 2010 5:51 PM GMT
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    GuerrillaSodomite saidWhy does the thought of her being torn limb from bloody limb by a hungry polar bear make me giggle uncontrollably?



    I stated that I hated Palin on another thread, and some moron gave me shit about it. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one.


    Prideful ignorance always flabbergasts me. "I don't need no liberal elite scientists and their fancy book learnin' telling me what's going on with the environment. The only book I need is the Good Book and it says drill baby drill!". I love how she prides herself on not having the level of education some of her opponents have. Science and facts are completely subjective in her world. After all, the world is only 5,000 years old, flat and is the center of the universe around which all non terrestrial things including the sun revolve.
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    Apr 19, 2010 7:09 PM GMT
    Her voice just nags at me. And her banter is full of hate and "thems".
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    Apr 19, 2010 7:17 PM GMT
    southbeach, you are a herpes lesion on the cock of our lives. Do us all a huge favor and shut the fuck up.

    I happen to be actively involved in this, and am part of a larger group in NY State that's working to stop natural gas drilling - specifically, horizontal hydrofracturing - in the Marcellus Shale. Natural gas/oil drilling is not only an environmental nightmare, but it directly and negatively impacts the health and well being of us all.

    We're opposed to gas drilling, but what alternatives have been offered? It's difficult without choices, thanks in large part to gas, oil and car companies that do everything within their power to stop environmentally responsible progress.

    Watch "Who Killed the Electric Car," then do some research on the dangers associated with drilling.

    http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/3/fracking_and_the_environment_natural_gas
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    Apr 19, 2010 7:32 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidThose of you opposed to oil and gas drilling should actually think about what you are espousing before demonizing people who support it.

    For those of you so opposed to oil and gas drilling, please:

    Turn off your computers, lights, televisions, IPods, IPhones, IPads. And that new Kindle you just got.... etc

    Your usual distortions. In reality, a good many environmentalists don't have a serious problem with natural gas drilling alone, unless done within fragile ecosystems or in other irresponsible ways. Natural gas burns as a fairly clean source of energy, and presents less of the risks of drilling for oil, whose spills, and air pollution during refining and consumption are the greater concern for environmentalists.

    As for your argument against energy-consuming technology, I will give you an analogy: food and human waste. Until the last 100 years, raw sewage was a serious health hazard, especially in major urban areas. Indeed, it can still be a problem today, though in increasingly isolated places.

    Now sewage is caused by humans consuming food, to maintain life. Don't consume food, and voila, reduced sewage problem. Except humans need to eat, and will eat. Therefore, sewage management is the answer.

    Humans also need sources of energy to maintain our quality of life. These sources of energy can cause pollution, another form of "sewage." The answer is not to stop consuming energy, but to make energy cleaner, and to control the pollution, just like we do with sewage.

    I make no apologies for using modern technology that consumes energy. In fact, the irony is that much of this technology, such as computers and information sharing, has the potential to lead to clean energy breakthroughs. The fault lies not in the end products we use, but in failing to power them with cleaner sources of energy, which is increasingly within our grasp.

    Instead some wish to take the tried & easier route (read US Republicans), that maybe worked 100 years ago when the world population was barely a sixth of today. Where there are vested interests in maintaining the status quo, for selfish economic reasons, that conspire to ignore & suppress the science of pollution, and the best interests of the general population and future generations.
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    Apr 19, 2010 7:46 PM GMT
    Wow, that's cynical even for television.
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    Apr 19, 2010 7:48 PM GMT
    Palin is a bloviating idiot.
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    Apr 19, 2010 7:52 PM GMT
    she puts the "mental" in "environmental"
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    Apr 19, 2010 8:12 PM GMT
    SB, dude, how can you be so far out of touch?

    Getting rid of oil is an absolute necessity in order to insure the security of our nation at a variety of levels.

    Exon, right up the road from me, makes just about 1.3 BILLION dollars in profit EVERY QUARTER. Of that, only about .1 percent, that is, 1/10 of 1%, goes into new energy research. Exon is in business to exploit every last dollar from every last entity that is exploitable, including you, and to maximize profits to shareholders, with no regard for what's right and proper for the country. Exon doesn't care about folks suffering, or the environment suffering. They are about doing the least possible while maximizing return to the shareholders.

    Is that so HARD for you to see?

    Clearly, modern society has high demands for energy, but, we don't do more of the same. We build new sources like hydrogen, solar, and wind, with very low impact on the environment. We build new sources like nuclear (very clean in comparison to fossil fuel of any kind). More of the same is very much NOT the answer. There is no such thing a "clean coal." Oil jeopardizes our national security ever day we continue to burn it.

    We would do well to take a lesson from Brazil, and become independent, and do what's best for our PEOPLE rather than the shareholders.

    We would do well to take a lesson from California, INSISTING that better machines be made, and driving jobs in the process.
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    Apr 19, 2010 8:15 PM GMT
    COJock1974 saidshe puts the "mental" in "environmental"


    more like putting the "mental issues" in "environmental issues."
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    Apr 19, 2010 8:56 PM GMT
    SAHEM62896 saidPalin is a bloviating idiot.


    I totally agree with you dude.
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    Apr 20, 2010 12:02 AM GMT
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    reppaT saidsouthbeach, you are a herpes lesion on the cock of our lives. Do us all a huge favor and shut the fuck up.


    And when someone writes something like this about me... where is the outrage from the rest of you?

    Have I ever made an unprovoked attack on anyone here in such a coarse, vile, manner? No.

    Could I respond to such a childish, crude attack in kind? Yes

    But I choose not to.

    The silence of the rest of you on such behavior in these forums speaks volumes about each of you.



    Ahhh... Southbeach always takes the highroad... like when he wished another member of the forum would die.

    Your victim act isn't convincing at all.

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    Apr 20, 2010 12:05 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidLast I checked, your beloved Democrats have controlled Congress since 2006... and Congress and the White House since January of 2009.

    Last I checked, you used that erroneous & misleading statement a few weeks ago, when I previously corrected you. The Democrats have only had a supermajority of 60 votes in the US Senate since 2009 (and only because they admitted 2 Independents to their caucus, the actual number of Democrats only being 58 ).

    And in 2007 (you incorrectly state 2006, which was the election year, not when the new Congress began) George Bush proceeded to use or threaten to use the veto against Democratic legislation, which the simple Democratic majority could not override against Republican opposition.


    And you speak of those numbers as if they were an absolute dictatorship to act as Democrats wished, when the truth is that Congressional Republicans have used every procedural trick in the book to block the Democrats at everything they can. I don't suppose who've heard about the "Party of No"? Of course not. icon_rolleyes.gif

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    Apr 20, 2010 12:23 AM GMT
    As much as I disagree with southbeach on almost everything, he doesn't make personal attacks. Rather, his attacks are on (and I'm paraphrasing) the lockstep liberal-gay thinking perpetuated by 95 (maybe it's 99, dunno) percent of the guys here. It's a backdoor way to insulting someone personally by sneaking in through the back door. Metaphorically, something gay men really enjoy, I know I do.
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    Apr 20, 2010 12:25 AM GMT
    SAHEM62896 saidPalin is a bloviating idiot.

    OMG - my new favorite word: Bloviate. THANK YOU!! icon_biggrin.gif

    I am not full of hate - just logic and critical thought. icon_cool.gif
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    Apr 20, 2010 12:26 AM GMT
    She is a dumb, selfish, clown of a person, forget about a Leader.
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    Apr 20, 2010 12:34 AM GMT
    This article is clearly partisan and a personal attack on Palin. Its very hard to take this serious when a article is written like this without the other sides views. Below is Palin's response to the polar bears. Also the slaughter of the animals could be a good thing. In a lot of areas around of America the slaughter of deer for example is absolutely needed. Instead of throwing out blind insults on Palin or anyone for that matter (Democrat or Republican) get the other sides reasoning and also the facts. What i never understood is so many gays complaining about other partisan politicians and people but the gays practice the same thing. Mind blowing.

    Palin on Global Warming and Renewable Energy
    Palin acknowledges the reality of climate change and its potential catastrophic effects on Alaska and other parts of the world, but she remains skeptical about any link between human-caused greenhouse gas emissions and global warming.

    Palin led Alaska to file suit against the U.S. Interior Department to remove polar bears from the endangered species list, after the bears were listed as “threatened” because of the risk to their habitat and survival from global warming. According to Palin, the decision to protect polar bears “was not based on the best scientific and commercial data available.”

    In September 2007, Palin exercised her authority as governor of Alaska to establish the Climate Change Sub-Cabinet, which is charged with developing a state climate change strategy, recommending policies to guide Alaska’s mitigation and adaptation efforts, and exploring ways to promote the development of renewable energy sources. And in May 2008, Palin signed a bill to spend $250 million over five years on renewable energy power plants that will run on solar, wind, hydroelectric and natural gas.


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    Apr 20, 2010 12:36 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    reppaT saidsouthbeach, you are a herpes lesion on the cock of our lives. Do us all a huge favor and shut the fuck up.


    And when someone writes something like this about me... where is the outrage from the rest of you?


    im outraged. how dare he use a rather witty, yet admittedly crude, analogy to describe what most of the people on this site likely think of you.

    oh, and i am definitely pocketing that zing... it's hard to find a sentence that really cuts straight to the point in so few words
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    Apr 20, 2010 12:55 AM GMT
    It's insane how some people here want to get rid of oil completely. Do you have any idea what crude oil is used to make? Gasoline is just a small fraction of its products. Here are just 144 of over 6000 products made from oil. BTW just about any type of plastic comes from oil.

    Ammonia
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    CD Player
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    Clothes
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    Floor Wax
    Folding Doors
    Food Preservatives
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    Gasoline
    Glycerin
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    Motor Oil
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    Movie film
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    Oil Filters
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    Apr 20, 2010 1:05 AM GMT
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    reppaT saidsouthbeach, you are a herpes lesion on the cock of our lives. Do us all a huge favor and shut the fuck up.


    And when someone writes something like this about me... where is the outrage from the rest of you?

    Have I ever made an unprovoked attack on anyone here in such a coarse, vile, manner? No.

    Could I respond to such a childish, crude attack in kind? Yes

    But I choose not to.

    The silence of the rest of you on such behavior in these forums speaks volumes about each of you.


    reppaT saidWe're opposed to gas drilling, but what alternatives have been offered? It's difficult without choices, thanks in large part to gas, oil and car companies that do everything within their power to stop environmentally responsible progress.

    Last I checked, your beloved Democrats have controlled Congress since 2006... and Congress and the White House since January of 2009.



    In this day in age, isn't it possible for me to just not like you as a person? I discredit everything you say, whether it is pro left or right, because you are an asshole.

    So I second Tapper's comment. Shut the fuck up.

    **To the guy above me. I don't think anyone is saying get rid of it. We should just not use it when possible.
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    Apr 20, 2010 1:09 AM GMT
    sportsguy933 saidIt's insane how some people here want to get rid of oil completely. Do you have any idea what crude oil is used to make? Gasoline is just a small fraction of its products. Here are just 144 of over 6000 products made from oil. BTW just about any type of plastic comes from oil.


    OK. Granted - that's an impressive list... but here's the thing many people miss when considering such facts

    A big part of the reason why so many products use oil in their production is because so much money (from oil companies!) has been poured into research for making new products and finding random uses for oil in all industries.

    If that were not the case many of these products could also be made using other potentially less harmful and often plant-based renewable resources. Think about it. We need to stretch our brains and resources for better solutions. Well... that's my .02 cents.


    I also feel very strongly that most new products should be made safely bio-degradable - by law. But that's a whole other topic...
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    Apr 20, 2010 1:16 AM GMT
    There's no way to get rid of oil completely. It's in everything. Moving our transportation networks away from oil would make a huge difference, however.

    Like corn, oil producers are ALWAYS looking for new uses for their product. They have no interest in putting themselves out of business.

    Using ethanol made from corn, I think, and I'm from farm country, is a mistake as well. We have better uses for food than fuel. If we're going to make ethanol from biomass, let's use algae.