Sonoma County CA separates elderly gay couple and sells all of their worldly possessions

  • metta

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    Apr 19, 2010 6:06 AM GMT
    Sonoma County CA separates elderly gay couple and sells all of their worldly possessions
    http://www.bilerico.com/2010/04/sonoma_county_ca_separates_elderly_gay_couple_and.php


    No one should die like Harold.
    (petition at this link)
    http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/6535/t/9634/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=2441
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    Apr 19, 2010 6:13 AM GMT
    Wow what a fucking piece of shit county! I hope those law-markers who did this to that old gay couple get raped by a bevy of antelope dicks!
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    Apr 19, 2010 6:25 AM GMT
    I hope they bankrupt the county and everyone else involved.
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    Apr 19, 2010 6:26 AM GMT
    How´s that "freedomy- liberty" thing workin out for ya, Amerika? /winks/

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    Apr 19, 2010 6:30 AM GMT
    America is the worst country on earth, no question
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    Apr 19, 2010 4:41 PM GMT

    No one should die like Harold.
    (petition at this link)

    http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/6535/t/9634/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=2441
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    Apr 19, 2010 4:49 PM GMT
    When the news first broke It made me sick...I want to move back to DENMARK!...
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    Apr 19, 2010 4:53 PM GMT
    Mystic_Man saidWhen the news first broke It made me sick...I want to move back to DENMARK!...


    I hope Sonoma County CA BURNS to the ground and the biggest earth quake on earth destroys all who took place in hurting these 2 old men who were defenseless...FUCK

    I have officially put a curse in the most powerful way I know VOO DOO! Yeah, I can do it!
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    Apr 19, 2010 4:59 PM GMT
    How sad. This just makes me sick. I can not believe that anyone would do that to this poor couple. They should take the County to the cleaners and clean them out! icon_cry.gif
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    Apr 19, 2010 5:49 PM GMT
    JakeBenson saidWow what a fucking piece of shit county! I hope those law-markers who did this to that old gay couple get raped by a bevy of antelope dicks!

    No, make that antelope ANTLERS!
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    Apr 20, 2010 6:59 PM GMT
    I hope this never happens to anyone here!!

    Just an update if you have not seen it....

    http://www.bilerico.com/2010/04/meet_harold_greene_and_clay_scull.php
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    Apr 20, 2010 7:05 PM GMT
    fuck em all! icon_mad.gif
  • metta

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    Apr 20, 2010 8:07 PM GMT

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=110306929004420&ref=nf&v=info

    From the information box on the above web page:

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    I'm organizing a caravan out of Santa Barbara on the morning of July 15, to arrive and show support on the steps of the Superior Sonoma Courthouse for Clay Greene.The hearing is on July 16, 2010, my partner Robert and I are planning to stay overnight.

    I hope that others will organize groups, and that we will have a large gathering drawing national attention to this hearing. I also hope that this gathering will be a peaceful show of solidarity for Clay Greene and his late lover Harold Scull, and reflect our unity and vigilant pursuit for federal recognition of gay marriage.

    Here's the story:

    Clay Greene and his partner of 20 years, Harold Scull, lived in California. Clay and Harold made diligent efforts to protect their legal rights, and had their legal paperwork in place--wills, powers of attorney, and medical directives, all naming each other. Harold was 88 years old and in frail medical condition, but still living at home with Clay, 77, who was in good health.

    One evening, Harold fell down the front steps of their home and was taken to the hospital. Based on their medical directives alone, Clay should have been consulted in Harold's care from the first moment. Tragically, county and health care workers instead refused to allow Clay to see Harold in the hospital. The county then ultimately went one step further by isolating the couple from each other, placing the men in separate nursing homes.

    Ignoring Clay's significant role in Harold's life, the county continued to treat Harold like he had no family and went to court seeking the power to make financial decisions on his behalf. Outrageously, the county represented to the judge that Clay was merely Harold's "roommate." The court denied their efforts, but did grant the county limited access to one of Harold's bank accounts to pay for his care.

    What happened next is even more chilling.

    Without authority, without determining the value of Clay and Harold's possessions accumulated over the course of their 20 years together or making any effort to determine which items belonged to whom, the county took everything Harold and Clay owned and auctioned off all of their belongings. Adding further insult to grave injury, the county removed Clay from his home and confined him to a nursing home against his will. The county workers then terminated Clay and Harold's lease and surrendered the home they had shared for many years to the landlord.

    Three months after he was hospitalized, Harold died in the nursing home. Because of the county's actions, Clay missed the final months he should have had with his partner of 20 years. Compounding this tragedy, Clay has literally nothing left of the home he had shared with Harold or the life he was living up until the day that Harold fell, because he has been unable to recover any of his property. The only memento Clay has is a photo album that Harold painstakingly put together for Clay during the last three months of his life.

    With the help of a dedicated and persistent court-appointed attorney, Anne Dennis of Santa Rosa, Clay was finally released from the nursing home. Ms. Dennis, along with Stephen O'Neill and Margaret Flynn of Tarkington, O'Neill, Barrack & Chong, now represent Clay in a lawsuit against the county, the auction company, and the nursing home, with technical assistance from NCLR. A trial date has been set for July 16, 2010 in the Superior Court for the County of Sonoma.
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    Apr 20, 2010 8:15 PM GMT
    This makes me angry.

    So, IrishHandJob, Shitbeach and PAslut, you still think us queers don't deserve equal protection under the law, and that marriage rights should never be extended to gay couples? Yeah? Great. That's great.
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    Apr 20, 2010 8:18 PM GMT
    This is awful.

    People can be so cruel. Did they really think they wouldn't be made to answer for this?

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    Apr 20, 2010 8:27 PM GMT
    Sad but another partisan one sided article. I would love to hear the other side. Also, it sounds like the county (even if ruthless) was simply following the law so i dont know how you can knock them. Now if there were rights in place for these guys and the county would have done this then yes the county should be charged but they were simply following the law i am assuming. Having the other sides views would be worthwhile.
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    Apr 20, 2010 8:33 PM GMT
    This is evil to be told your love is lesser.
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    Apr 20, 2010 8:35 PM GMT
    reppaT saidThis makes me angry.

    So, IrishHandJob, Shitbeach and PAslut, you still think us queers don't deserve equal protection under the law, and that marriage rights should never be extended to gay couples? Yeah? Great. That's great.


    A weak attempt insult from a liberal in his underwear. Classy.

    FYI, overall i support gay rights and also republican. There are republicans and i know quite a bit who do support a lot of gay rights so please get your facts straight.icon_biggrin.gif

    Also there is a very large gay/lesbian group of republicans called the Log Cabin republicans, go to their site and you will see the majority of party voters do support gay rights. Maybe not marriage but even Obama, Biden,etc do not support gay marriage so its a moot point.
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    Apr 20, 2010 8:39 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidHow´s that "freedomy- liberty" thing workin out for ya, Amerika? /winks/



    America is a wonderful place.The country is one of the most diverse in the world and over the past 100 years it has become a economic powerhouse and millions of people have moved to the USA from other countries and more so than any other country. Even with Obama, this country is fantastic and i love it.

    Nice try with the insult though.
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    Apr 20, 2010 8:41 PM GMT
    Oh my God people can't we just agree this is a bad thing and work from there without resorting to ad hominem attacks and defenses of the motherland?
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    Apr 20, 2010 8:45 PM GMT
    METTA8:
    Do you know if there's a legal defense fund for him? We'd like to make a contribution if so.

    Thanks for showing up. I'm in Florida, and if I was able to fly to CA and be there, I would. I'm looking into my July schedule, and may try to do so, but it may not be realistic. However, you and anyone else going needs to know how very, very moved and proud we are of you. Showing up matters more than you can imagine. Bless you!!!!
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    Apr 20, 2010 8:49 PM GMT
    Those are compression shorts, not underwear. And don't even get me started on who is and is not being classy.

    I'll sit back and await your next "faggot ... queer ... dyke ... all wanting equal rights when they don't deserve it" post.

    I have all the time in the world, hypocrite.
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    Apr 20, 2010 8:50 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]metta8 said[/cite]Sonoma County CA separates elderly gay couple and sells all of their worldly possessions
    http://www.bilerico.com/2010/04/sonoma_county_ca_separates_elderly_gay_couple_and.php


    Thank you for sharing this story. The comments and discussions at the bottom of the article (on the link) are equally fascinating.

    I will be anxious to hear the outcome of the court case.
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    Apr 20, 2010 8:58 PM GMT
    What's even more interesting -- and alarming -- is that the local Bay Area news stations -- many of whom like to pride themselves on reporting gay-related news -- did NOT report this story at all. Had they, there would have been an immense backlash toward Sonoma County officials, yet, I heard absolutely nothing until someone I know on Facebook shared the link to this disturbing and heart-breaking tale.

    But I hope Clay does succeed in his lawsuit against the despicable actions of this county for their reckless, thoughtless, and cruel unauthorized actions reminiscent of Nazis.
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    Apr 20, 2010 11:39 PM GMT
    Sickening beyond words.

    And I agree with CADudeSF. Had the Bay area TV stations reported on this, it wouldn't have gone this far. It's a disgrace they didn't cover this.