Teabagger/Republican Jim DeMint says the Tea Party is leading a "spiritual revival" Say what?

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    Apr 22, 2010 10:39 PM GMT
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/21/demint-says-tea-party-activists-leading-spiritual-revival/?fbid=sdXNVjxnsKG

    Didn't we JUST have eight years of a president who believed he was chosen by God to be president,and who said, when asked if he got advice from his father, ex-prez Bush Sr. - that he got advice from a "higher father" -as in God?

    We've seen the epic failure of eight Bush years of a president who relied on "biblical revelation rather than human reason".
    It didn't revive America.
    It ran America into the ground.

    We are a democracy, not a theocracy.
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    Apr 22, 2010 11:24 PM GMT
    rickrick91 saidWe are a democracy, not a theocracy.

    Wrong. Most Americans think we are indeed a Christian theocracy. Jews and others are merely tolerated, because we've been told we're supposed to. But of course no real American would tolerate a non-Christian unless it were imposed on them.

    God created the US for Christians. That's what Teabaggers, Conservatives and Republicans believe. Others need not apply, and least of all gays, who are despised and outcast by God.

    That's why it's OK to discriminate against gays, even a blessed act, encouraged by God and rewarded in Heaven. So the Christian fundamentalists preach from their pulpits, and Republicans pronounce in the legislature. You really are rather backward in your thinking regarding American values.
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    Apr 23, 2010 12:14 AM GMT
    {sigh} Jim DeMint is about as smart as a box of hair. The man's lack of intellect and sense of reason disturbs me greatly. icon_neutral.gif The man claims to be a 'senator for the people of South Carolina,' yet he has done NOTHING but further the interests of the Religious Right and assist in driving SC's economy into the ground.

    I would dare say his "leadership" or more appropriately, indifference, is the reason some counties in South Carolina have a 35-40% unemployment rate. This is also the same man who said he would be "uncomfortable" if a gay person was elected to the US Presidency - I called his DC office and gave a staffer hell over that comment. When he was running for the Senate seat he currently holds in 2004, he said that SC should not allow gay people to teach in SC schools - he eventually backed down from this comment, but the point was made.

    I also heard on CNN that he is 'testing the waters' for a presidential run... and I can believe it with the way he has been presenting himself in SC over the past few months (he is also up for re-election this year too). If that man becomes president at some point in the future, I am fairly certain I'll move away to another country (i.e. Canada, Belgium, etc.). icon_mad.gif I know what that man is about... and it is bad news.
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    Apr 23, 2010 12:15 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidAnd the evening's liberal lovefest and daily bashing of anyone not a liberal / Democrat / socialist begins again.... icon_rolleyes.gif


    Remember this the next time you tell everyone here how you don't engage in personal attacks.
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    Apr 23, 2010 12:22 AM GMT
    Red_Vespa said
    rickrick91 saidWe are a democracy, not a theocracy.

    Wrong. Most Americans think we are indeed a Christian theocracy. Jews and others are merely tolerated, because we've been told we're supposed to. But of course no real American would tolerate a non-Christian unless it were imposed on them.

    God created the US for Christians. That's what Teabaggers, Conservatives and Republicans believe. Others need not apply, and least of all gays, who are despised and outcast by God.

    That's why it's OK to discriminate against gays, even a blessed act, encouraged by God and rewarded in Heaven. So the Christian fundamentalists preach from their pulpits, and Republicans pronounce in the legislature. You really are rather backward in your thinking regarding American values.


    Red_Vespa must have lived in South Carolina in another life... or in this one at some point. icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 23, 2010 12:46 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidAnd the evening's liberal lovefest and daily bashing of anyone not a liberal / Democrat / socialist begins again.... icon_rolleyes.gif



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    Apr 23, 2010 12:55 AM GMT

    At least the bashing keeps them focused. Their rewards are best served on a cold platter.
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    Apr 23, 2010 1:49 AM GMT
    You keep using that "liberal/Democrat/socialist" catchphrase, Southbeach.

    Would you think it okay for progressives to refer to you and your fellow Repub/teapartiers as - conservative/Republican/fascists?

    Is that fair?

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    Apr 23, 2010 2:05 AM GMT
    teabagger
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    Apr 23, 2010 2:14 AM GMT
    That woman hasn't had an orgasm since the 1950's
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    Apr 23, 2010 3:30 AM GMT
    rickrick91 saidYou keep using that "liberal/Democrat/socialist" catchphrase, Southbeach.

    Would you think it okay for progressives to refer to you and your fellow Repub/teapartiers as - conservative/Republican/fascists?

    Is that fair?



    MMOJ. I've seen countless thread of hate many times by the allegedly progressives and democrats say a whole lot worse in my many years here now, a lot worse; yet since such behaviour seems to have a mandate by many here, thats OK, if it's done by the left!
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    Apr 23, 2010 3:32 AM GMT
    rickrick91 saidhttp://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/21/demint-says-tea-party-activists-leading-spiritual-revival/?fbid=sdXNVjxnsKG

    Didn't we JUST have eight years of a president who believed he was chosen by God to be president,and who said, when asked if he got advice from his father, ex-prez Bush Sr. - that he got advice from a "higher father" -as in God?

    We've seen the epic failure of eight Bush years of a president who relied on "biblical revelation rather than human reason".
    It didn't revive America.
    It ran America into the ground.

    We are a democracy, not a theocracy.


    You know the last time not so long ago one suggested that America was a democracy, I upset a lot of people. But I stand by it that America is a Democratic Republic, and the majority rule, not the minority.
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    Apr 23, 2010 3:53 AM GMT
    McGay said
    southbeach1500 saidAnd the evening's liberal lovefest and daily bashing of anyone not a liberal / Democrat / socialist begins again.... icon_rolleyes.gif


    Remember this the next time you tell everyone here how you don't engage in personal attacks.



    You call that a personal attack? More like an observation
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    Apr 23, 2010 4:09 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidAnd the evening's liberal lovefest and daily bashing of anyone not a liberal / Democrat / socialist begins again.... icon_rolleyes.gif


    HAHAHAHA sooo true! i just wish these loveable caring souls would realize how nasty and vile they appear, if you are a bleeding heart liberal you will not have a snow balls chance in hell of changing hearts and minds by being mean spirited!
    I certainly don't condone the hatred from the republican religous part, but i think if they are in power it would certainly help to have openly gay Republicans in that part to fight for our freedom. i would prefer to dismantle both parties and let individuals run for office and end the cluster fuck in each of the 2 dominating parties.

    i demand freedom to live gay and i also demand to keep the fruits of my labor!
    I don't need a bridge to now where in Alaska or the government forcefully taking my hard earned money to pay for the Arts or a religous statue or any other BS!

    So as i see it any group that is for defending the constitution and wants to keep the Federal Government in check and as small as possible is cool with me!

    NJ is waking up as well they just cut the teaching unions down by popular vote!They are over payed! i grew up there and watched as the property taxes went through the roof to fund the schools and i saw first hand the waste that happened in them.

    People struggling to live and care for their families forcefully made to pay higher salaries for the teachers with the threat of losing their hard earned homes is just not American or fair! It is about time that the government works within the confines of what it takes in and not spend beyond our means if it takes longer to accomplish a goal so be it.All of our collected tax money is going to pay interest on loans that is what Ross Perot brought to our attention back in the early 90's.

    The economy is screwed up because of the cost of oil and shipping not tax cuts.

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    Apr 23, 2010 4:13 AM GMT
    rickrick91 saidhttp://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/21/demint-says-tea-party-activists-leading-spiritual-revival/?fbid=sdXNVjxnsKG

    Didn't we JUST have eight years of a president who believed he was chosen by God to be president,and who said, when asked if he got advice from his father, ex-prez Bush Sr. - that he got advice from a "higher father" -as in God?

    We've seen the epic failure of eight Bush years of a president who relied on "biblical revelation rather than human reason".
    It didn't revive America.
    It ran America into the ground.

    We are a democracy, not a theocracy.


    Wrong.

    We are a Republic, not a Democracy
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    Apr 23, 2010 4:16 AM GMT
    Caslon14000 saidteabagger



    HAHAHAHAHA that is frickin hillarious!
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    Apr 23, 2010 4:28 AM GMT
    I think we'd all agree that when someone mentions Fascism, Hitler is the first person that pops up in our minds. Hitler was part of the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP). So Hitler was a Socialist by his own party recognition at his time, but described as a Fascist in current politics.

    Current politics paint Fascism = Far far Right and Communism = Far far Left
    However Socialism, while difficult to proclaim an exact definition, I view it as basically an intermittent step between Capitalism and Communism. Marx was a Socialist. Hitler was a Socialist (by definition of his party). Conservatives hate Marx, hate socialism, hate communism, etc. However the media and some people will try to link Far right to Fascism (Hitler), when Hitler more resembles socialism which is a Far left tenant.
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    Apr 23, 2010 4:29 AM GMT
    rickrick91 saidYou keep using that "liberal/Democrat/socialist" catchphrase, Southbeach.

    Would you think it okay for progressives to refer to you and your fellow Repub/teapartiers as - conservative/Republican/fascists?

    Is that fair?



    Dude!? you just can't believe that people, Americans are fed up with both parties spending us into ablivion and bailing out banks and car companies and voting raises for themselves while our jobs are deleted and our cars are repoed and homes taken for back taxes and missed mortgage payments!

    ALL YOU SEE IS BLACK AND WHITE?????

    THE HOUSE AND SENATE IS COMPOSED OF BOTH PARTIES THERE IS 500 PLUS PEOPLE TELLING THE 300 MILLION OF US HOW TO LIVE AND THEY DID THIS TO US ALL!

    THE TEAPARTY IS NOT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IT IS WE THE FUCKED OVER AMERICAN PEOPLE THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN NO MATTER WHO WAS IN OFFICE , ESPECIALLY SINCE THE THINGS DONE IN THE PAST YEAR WILL CREATE LONG TERM PROBLEMS!
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    Apr 23, 2010 4:37 AM GMT
    rickrick91 saidThat woman hasn't had an orgasm since the 1950's


    So your idea of having a sense of humor is to put another person down? Wow you have a nice body , but you need to work on your personality.
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    Apr 23, 2010 4:56 AM GMT
    Just the things done in the past year? Really? Because the 8 year span between 2000 and 2008 is when this country truly flourished, right?



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    Apr 23, 2010 5:07 AM GMT
    I don't know about all that. I just know I vote Republican because I'm scared gays will have equal rights and poor people will have access to health care.
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    Apr 23, 2010 5:11 AM GMT
    sportsguy933 saidI think we'd all agree that when someone mentions Fascism, Hitler is the first person that pops up in our minds. Hitler was part of the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP). So Hitler was a Socialist by his own party recognition at his time, but described as a Fascist in current politics.

    Current politics paint Fascism = Far far Right and Communism = Far far Left
    However Socialism, while difficult to proclaim an exact definition, I view it as basically an intermittent step between Capitalism and Communism. Marx was a Socialist. Hitler was a Socialist (by definition of his party). Conservatives hate Marx, hate socialism, hate communism, etc. However the media and some people will try to link Far right to Fascism (Hitler), when Hitler more resembles socialism which is a Far left tenant.
    Nope. Just because it has the word social or even socialist in it does not make it "left"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FascismFascism', pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/, is a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists seek to organize a nation on corporatist perspectives; values; and systems such as the political system and the economy. Scholars generally consider fascism to be on the far right of the conventional left-right political spectrum, although some scholars claim that fascism has been influenced by both the left and the right.

    Fascism is strongly opposed to core aspects of the Enlightenment and is an opponent of liberalism, Marxism, and mainstream socialism for being associated with failures that fascists claim are inherent in the Enlightenment. Fascists view egalitarianism, materialism, and rationalism as failed elements of the Enlightenment. They oppose liberalism — as a bourgeois movement — and Marxism — as a proletarian movement — for being exclusive economic class-based movements. They present their ideology as that of an economically trans-class movement that promotes ending economic class conflict to secure national solidarity. They believe that economic classes are not capable of properly governing a nation, and that a merit-based aristocracy of experienced military persons must rule through regimenting a nation's forces of production and securing the nation's independence.
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    Apr 23, 2010 5:19 AM GMT
    The method between communist and fascist is different, but both want complete control. Conservatives want limited government
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    Apr 23, 2010 5:24 AM GMT
    sportsguy933 saidThe method between communist and fascist is different, but both want complete control. Conservatives want limited government
    Conservatives want limited government as in limited to conservatives and is the party of exclusion - you just have to look at what comprises the "conservative" parties to see that. It is no longer the Republicans of long ago .. it did a 180 in the 60's.

    Oh yes, modern day conservatives are very much into control.
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    Apr 23, 2010 5:39 AM GMT
    . . . sportsguy933 is actually right . . .

    . . . I think you all need to take a step back and read James Burnham's The Managerial Revolution which was a major influence on Orwell . . .

    . . . granted, real conservatives are rare these days, but nevertheless they exist and they are not the statists and exclusivists you imagine . . .