Do You Like Byzantine Mosaics?

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    Apr 26, 2010 4:10 AM GMT
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    Apr 26, 2010 1:05 PM GMT
    Yup. And just about any Byzantine art.
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    Apr 26, 2010 1:13 PM GMT
    JonathanJ saidYup. And just about any Byzantine art.


    I'm fortunate to live not far from one of the world's best collections of Byzantine art...The Cloisters. There are also various gardens surrounding the buildings that are designed and planted in medieval style too.

    That shimering quality of the mosaics is really beautiful. I love Byzantine mosaics..as well as tapestries and other things.

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    Apr 26, 2010 1:26 PM GMT
    I can appreciate them but don't love them. I probably don't know enough about them to love them. Dumbarton Oaks museum here in DC has a Byzantine art collection I need to go see again.
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    Apr 26, 2010 1:34 PM GMT
    Loves me my 4th to 15th C. art. Me and Theodora are like THIS *finger cross*
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    Apr 26, 2010 1:36 PM GMT
    my bachelor's is in Art History. love love love anything Byzantine. the entire history of the empire is awesome. and yes, when people ask who i would like to have dinner with, dead or alive, i say Justinian and Theodora ;)
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    Apr 26, 2010 3:54 PM GMT
    Ciarsolo saidLoves me my 4th to 15th C. art. Me and Theodora are like THIS *finger cross*


    Oh yeah? Justinian has a secret lover on the side that history doesn't know about....first he talks to her, then he confides in ME.icon_eek.gif
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    Apr 26, 2010 4:22 PM GMT
    setter15 saidmy bachelor's is in Art History. love love love anything Byzantine. the entire history of the empire is awesome. and yes, when people ask who i would like to have dinner with, dead or alive, i say Justinian and Theodora ;)

    Then a follow-up tete-a-tete with Procopius who knew all their secrets including Theodora's performance with her specially-trained geese.
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    Apr 26, 2010 4:26 PM GMT
    I like it, but it also creeps me out a bit..... can't exactly say why.
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    Apr 26, 2010 4:58 PM GMT
    The shift from Greek and Roman realism to the formalized symbolism of Byzantine art does not make it one of my favorite styles. Nevertheless, in the case of wall & ceiling mosaics, the ungrouted smalti, often backed with gold or silver leaf, create a magical shimmering effect that certainly dazzles the eye. (Though much of it has dimmed with time)

    And naturally the use of mosaics can limit the artist somewhat, except where the scale is large enough that a greater fluidity of line, visual detail and subtlety of coloration are possible. And so to the question of whether I like Byzantine mosaics, my answer is that I don't dislike them, and they can have magical properties, but they are not among my most preferred art forms.
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    Apr 26, 2010 5:00 PM GMT
    Hate that art crap. They should be painted over with a nice shade of beige.
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    Apr 26, 2010 5:31 PM GMT
    Sparkycat saidHate that art crap. They should be painted over with a nice shade of beige.


    Don't be a hater, it's such a breeder thing to do.

    I like Byzantine art, but I much prefer 4-6th century Celtic Art, and Pictish rock carvings.
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    Apr 26, 2010 6:52 PM GMT
    I do. I think if the professor who taught byzantine history hadn;t retired right before I was going to take the class, I might have ended up studying them instead of American Indians.

    It's really pretty artwork.
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    Apr 26, 2010 7:01 PM GMT
    I like these, can't say I've seen much. I have vivid memories of a lot of Eastern Orthodox stuff that looks pretty similar, at least in colors and perspective.
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    Apr 26, 2010 7:20 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidThe shift from Greek and Roman realism to the formalized symbolism of Byzantine art does not make it one of my favorite styles. .... they can have magical properties.

    Byzantine art doesn't seek to render the natural world. It is intended to evoke a transcendent spiritual experience. Abstract line was best suited to what the artist was trying to convey.
    But in the best Byzantine work there is an element of Hellenistic grace and modelling of the body through the classical drapery. A famous example is the mosaic decoration in the church of Daphne near Athens.
    http://www.sacred-destinations.com/greece/daphni-monastery
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    Apr 26, 2010 8:57 PM GMT
    I like me some egg yolk on wood better than mosaic.
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    Apr 26, 2010 9:25 PM GMT
    Hey, don't call me a breeder. Them's fightin' words.

    FYI I was being cynical.....I hate beige.....


    ...and I think the mosaics are stunningly beautiful.



    FredPDX said
    Sparkycat saidHate that art crap. They should be painted over with a nice shade of beige.


    Don't be a hater, it's such a breeder thing to do.

    I like Byzantine art, but I much prefer 4-6th century Celtic Art, and Pictish rock carvings.
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    Apr 26, 2010 9:35 PM GMT
    The Byzantine mosaics in Ravenna Italy are spectacular.
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    Apr 26, 2010 10:15 PM GMT
    setter15 saidmy bachelor's is in Art History. love love love anything Byzantine. the entire history of the empire is awesome. and yes, when people ask who i would like to have dinner with, dead or alive, i say Justinian and Theodora ;)


    Welll you may want to have them to dinner for all kinds of reasons I know nothing about, but both were fiercely anti-gay, no?
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    Apr 26, 2010 11:24 PM GMT
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    setter15 saidmy bachelor's is in Art History. love love love anything Byzantine. the entire history of the empire is awesome. and yes, when people ask who i would like to have dinner with, dead or alive, i say Justinian and Theodora ;)


    Welll you may want to have them to dinner for all kinds of reasons I know nothing about, but both were fiercely anti-gay, no?

    You might have had more fun with Emperor Michael III in the late 8th century. He befriended a tall, handsome and remarkably muscular groom from the imperial stable named Basil the Macedonian. Michael made Basil the guard of the imperial bedchamber and eventually co-Emperor.
    Unfortunately Basil was ungrateful and had Michael done away with.

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    Apr 30, 2010 8:08 PM GMT
    SAHEM62896 saidI like it, but it also creeps me out a bit..... can't exactly say why.


    The buggy eyes, perhaps? icon_razz.gif
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    Apr 30, 2010 8:41 PM GMT
    the church that i sometimes work at here in n'ville has a yearly icon painting workshop. it isn't color by numbers stuff either. they take a full week to learn the ins and outs of icons and then they create one.

    i've seen them and they are amazing.

    i love symbolism, but i haven't really delved too much into the byzantine symbolism...it's too, um...byzantine. but i def respect it.

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    May 02, 2010 2:07 AM GMT
    A recenetly discovered one (1996) in Lod:

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    May 02, 2010 4:34 AM GMT
    Caesarea4 saidA recenetly discovered one (1996) in Lod:

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    I believe it's identified as a 3rd-Century CE Roman floor mosaic, not a Byzantine-era wall or ceiling mosaic.
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    May 02, 2010 1:43 PM GMT
    I thought they were some new kind of cookie from Pepperidge Farms, darn icon_rolleyes.gif