ddrfeat saidI'm trying to understand the psychology this group is using.So according to this article we all have douche bag fathers that have made us feel worthless. Since we feel worthless we are never able to adopt the role of "man" and reach our duty to impregnate a woman. Does this sound about right? (right in that I'm trying to piece together their flawed psychology)
judging from some of the earlier "questions" he was posed as he entered camp, it is about changing beliefs, i.e., stories told through a lens of sexuality. the theory, as i understand it, is that if you can change your story from "i like men and want to have sex with them," to "i feel a need for men because i have a need for masculine love," you can stave off your desires for sexual relations and hopefully hang on to what "GOD" wants.
it is NLP run amok. there is a whole bunch of stuff out there about changing your thoughts...the law of attraction is one of them...and, for the most part, i agree with much of it. after all, our brains cook up entire belief systems based on perceptions and false assumptions, so it isn't too much of a stretch to think that you can make yourself feel better by seeing that your emotions are caused by thoughts and your thoughts are 50% accurate at best...so why not choose a better thought?
this works for things like anger management, when that guy cuts you off in traffic you can choose a different story about what you think his motivation is in doing it...or, deeper still, you can choose to see him as a slob, just like yourself, just trying to make sense of the world. this shit really works. it's hard as hell, but it works.
trouble is sexual orientation is not the result of a thought process. that is their mistake. they think if you can replace your thoughts about men with different, more "straight," thoughts about men, you will become, essentially, straight.
so here is the rub: those guys go home and engage in a mind games that would make the nazis look like caring gentle nurse maids compared to the battle and toruture going on in their own heads.
for "dave," the guy he talks to at the end of the article, not only is he confused about his sexual identity, but now he is confused about what he thinks. it is where cults, like evangelicalism, step in and say, "here is what you think now." "jesus loves you." "god is the perfect father." "if it weren't for jesus, you would be dead right now." "accepting yourself is a lie of the devil." "you are dead in sin and the turmoil you feel is the conviction of the holy spirit."
it's fucked up. and for those guys who attend those camps, they want, above all else, to be cured...so they will believe anything, do anything, engage in any self talk or behavior mod that will make it all go away. they really just want to love their families, they don't want to be alone, and they sure as hell don't want to do something like "love themselves." i mean, how selfish is that?
yep, this stuff is well-meaning human compassion that has the unintended results of screwing a person's life up for ever.