Seventy-five percent of all American men are physically unfit for military duty.

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    Apr 29, 2010 4:00 AM GMT
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    May 02, 2010 6:52 PM GMT
    It's like that here in the UK also. Not only overweight, but generally unfit altogether.
    Yet go back fifty years and there was conscription for all males over 18, regardless whether they were smokers, non-smokers, fat, thin, tall, short, strong, weak, fit or unfit. Back then they knew how to make fit soldiers out of all of them.
    The only ones, other than the more severely disabled, who escaped National Service were the sons of the super-rich who were bought out from serving by their Dad's generous payment to the Ministry of Defence.
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    May 02, 2010 7:02 PM GMT
    I believe it. Of those 75%, 50% are probably obese and 25% of those 50% are probably morbidly obese.
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    May 02, 2010 7:04 PM GMT
    McDonald's, Burger King, Starbucks, Domino's, ad nauseum. Nuf said.icon_sad.gif
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    May 02, 2010 7:08 PM GMT
    I knew Realjock and Hollywood were myths and all yanks are like Roseann Barr.

    Seems like most of the dudes fit for the army are probably homos?

    Would be a larf!
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    May 02, 2010 7:08 PM GMT
    Dont forget the KFC Double Down sandwhich (bread bun replaced with two pieces of fried chicken, bacon and cheese in the middle). http://sweettater.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kfc-doubledown4.jpg
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    May 02, 2010 7:09 PM GMT
    So the U.S. military is like an elite club that only allows highly fit men that wear tight white t-shirts that show their excited perky nipples........what were we talking about again?
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    May 02, 2010 7:10 PM GMT
    I know this to be true
    Men and Americans in general are Very unfit
    Obesity is at epidemic levels
    Our diet is terrible
    and activity and exercise is something that's hardly ever done
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    May 02, 2010 7:17 PM GMT
    Sad but true it seems.

    I know when I was in the military I wanted fitness to be a priority. At least to pass the fitness exam and to be able to survive should I actually get put in a situation where my health and fitness mattered.

    Hmmm? When would it matter most I wonder? Oh yeah! when I'm being shot at and when I need to drag my comrade to safety in the heat of the moment like say a war or when I gotta carry my deployment bags can that easily weigh 70 over lbs.
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    May 02, 2010 7:19 PM GMT
    statennyc21 saidDont forget the KFC Double Down sandwhich (bread bun replaced with two pieces of fried chicken, bacon and cheese in the middle). http://sweettater.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kfc-doubledown4.jpg


    Is that an Atkins thing?
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    May 02, 2010 7:22 PM GMT
    I wonder if this includes steroid users, people who do not include any cardio, and unhealthy dietsicon_eek.gif
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    May 02, 2010 7:24 PM GMT
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    statennyc21 saidDont forget the KFC Double Down sandwhich (bread bun replaced with two pieces of fried chicken, bacon and cheese in the middle). http://sweettater.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kfc-doubledown4.jpg


    Is that an Atkins thing?
    I seriously doubt that would help a dieter on Atkins @ 540 calories a pop. Plus, I dont think KFC customers and dieting are in the same plane of existence.
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    May 02, 2010 7:28 PM GMT
    But in defense of (some) Americans, I think health and fitness is largely (no pun intended) based on location. NYC, San Fran, Chicago, Miami, Boston, Seattle, Portland: all very transit friendly and in these denser cities competition for dates/mates, etc is higher therefore people care more about how the look (maybe a little too much even). But I love running and its extremely competitive here in NY with runners/races. Therefore, I think that 75% leans more toward suburbia...
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    May 02, 2010 7:30 PM GMT
    masculine31 saidI wonder if this includes steroid users, people who do not include any cardio, and unhealthy dietsicon_eek.gif


    Oh I know a lot of gay men
    who through the "miracle" of chemistry have nice bodies but
    have disastrous health habits
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    May 02, 2010 7:39 PM GMT
    Location has a slight effect on fitness but in reality it's all about the individual starting with a home lifestyle. I know when I was growing up my folks refused to let us stay holed up inside (unless we were sick, grounded, cleaning or studying) watching tv and gorging ourselves on junk food doing nothing.

    They also monitored what we ate and weren't big fans of eating out. The only days they made the exception were Fridays and Saturdays because those were the days we basically fended for ourselves because those where the days were we all had something going on so ordered a pizza or having Chinese food was ok. Other then that it was strictly home cooked healthy meals and they encouraged us to get active in school programs like sports because it was fun and kept us occupied.

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    May 02, 2010 9:06 PM GMT
    We already discussed this in another thread, where I wrote:

    I guess the moral here is that if you wanna be good cannon fodder, eat less fodder. Now there's an incentive that oughta be well received in US schools and homes all across the US.

    When I enlisted in the US Army over 40 years ago, most of my fellow Basic Trainees were drafted, and we had plenty who were overweight. Think that got them a draft deferment, or a release from Basic?

    Hell, no! What it got them was harder work from the Drill Sergeants, and they lost that weight, and they got into shape. True, the enlistment and retention rules have been modified a bit since then due to the suspension of the draft (it still exists on paper), but if a dire national crisis occurred the draft could be reinstated, and fatties would shed those pounds in uniform.

    I think the real national threat comes from generals whose heads are too fat. I do admire John Shalikashvili (named here) for the correct analysis he made of the negative outcome of waging war in Iraq, a view that got him forced into retirement by the Bush Administration. But in general the generals, and admirals, are what they always have been throughout history: slightly wacko and only tenuously grounded in reality, defects that only grow worse in retirement. The stories I could tell you about nutty generals I knew during my career... OY!!!!


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    May 02, 2010 9:17 PM GMT
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    statennyc21 saidDont forget the KFC Double Down sandwhich (bread bun replaced with two pieces of fried chicken, bacon and cheese in the middle). http://sweettater.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kfc-doubledown4.jpg


    Is that an Atkins thing?
    I seriously doubt that would help a dieter on Atkins @ 540 calories a pop. Plus, I dont think KFC customers and dieting are in the same plane of existence.


    I was joking. I meant cos no bread = no carbs.

    As for KFC, it's cool, I like a good KFC/McDonald's when i'm pissed on a Friday night. I know how to take care of myself and I know how to have fun. Judge not that ye not be judged yay said the lord sing hossannah!
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    May 02, 2010 9:19 PM GMT
    You can all twist words around, bitch, cry, etc but bottom line troops need to be fit that is RELEVANT to their military duties. Period. If you are fat then shut up and get in shape. Thanks.
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    May 02, 2010 9:23 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa said...the draft could be reinstated...


    Haha, and then gay guys can't get out of it any more if they scrap DADT. I guess people should be careful what they wish for. icon_twisted.gif
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    May 02, 2010 9:46 PM GMT
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    Red_Vespa said...the draft could be reinstated...


    Haha, and then gay guys can't get out of it any more if they scrap DADT. I guess people should be careful what they wish for. icon_twisted.gif

    Actually, a real story: a college professor I had when I returned to college during my military career, was only 2 years older than me. He hesitatingly told me the story about how he was drafted in 1968, just a year before I myself had voluntarily enlisted.

    Well, he was flaming, and had declared himself a homosexual with his local draft board. They ignored it, and he got drafted anyway.

    So he gets sent to Fort Knox, Kentucky for Basic Training, where I myself was assigned a few months later (though we never met). And he again declares himself a homo, and as he told me, totally camped it up at the Reception Station there, which precedes Basic.

    And he had me screaming with laughter at his gay antics, which eventually resulted in a Dishonorable Discharge for him (that part of his story did bother me), but he did no military service. And he thought as an Army Officer I would be offended by his story.

    Like hell I was! I thought it was great! I made a career in the Army because *I* liked the military. That doesn't mean anybody else has to like it, too. If you don't wanna do it, don't. I've never supported the involuntary draft, a measure of last resort if our country finds itself in the worst of circumstances. I hate the concept of a draft, and if he beat it, more power to him. BTW, we became good friends, my first gay friend, in fact.
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    May 02, 2010 9:50 PM GMT
    I always wondered how that would play out if they started drafting if they would bring up sexuality and what lengths would the government be willing to go to make sure people were drafted whether gay or straight.

    I guess the needs of many would be outweighed by the needs of the few in this case. It's kinda sad really if you think about it. here you have folks who want to join willingly but get denied because of their status but as soon as the times hit hard and the military demands help if you were to say "no" you'd be branded, throw into jail and forever remembered as "that" person who didn't want to serve his country.

    A fucked up world we live in is it not?
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    May 02, 2010 10:02 PM GMT
    I’d like to just say I have yet to meet a homo that cant max his PT test, or is working every day to get where he can. Where as every fattie seems to me to have some fat kids along with him to leech money from the military.
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    May 02, 2010 10:04 PM GMT
    Guy101 saidI always wondered how that would play out if they started drafting if they would bring up sexuality and what lengths would the government be willing to go to make sure people were drafted whether gay or straight.

    I guess the needs of many would be outweighed by the needs of the few in this case. It's kinda sad really if you think about it. here you have folks who want to join willingly but get denied because of their status but as soon as the times hit hard and the military demands help if you were to say "no" you'd be branded, throw into jail and forever remembered as "that" person who didn't want to serve his country.

    A fucked up world we live in is it not?

    I have to agree with you. icon_sad.gif
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    May 03, 2010 3:28 AM GMT
    He's ba-a-a-a-a-a-ack...



    Did anybody consider that this percentage probably includes all the men who are too old to serve ?
    The percentage of older Americans is ever increasing.
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    May 03, 2010 6:16 AM GMT
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    masculine31 saidI wonder if this includes steroid users, people who do not include any cardio, and unhealthy dietsicon_eek.gif


    Oh I know a lot of gay men
    who through the "miracle" of chemistry have nice bodies but
    have disastrous health habits



    I know righticon_eek.gificon_lol.gif