A BLIND gay man?

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    Apr 30, 2010 1:54 AM GMT
    Do you feel being gay is a handicap?

    Is there such a thing as a blind gay man?

    I look around here and all the online websites and most of what I see is visual.

    Everyone here hot lists another, drooling over posted pics, falling in love with a digital image. Why? Do you find it a form of body worshiping?

    Do you find that social websites like this help you to cope with "being different"?

    Then again...what about the blind man that's a homosexual? Is there such a thing?

    Today, it hit me...I see a lot of laws for people who are handicapped physically, mentally and even emotionally and many other things. These individuals get a lot of assistance, finical help and their burdens are eased from other members in society. This should be the case. Even for GAY people who have RIGHTS????......

    Now, I am wondering, why is it that homosexuality is treated like some huge sickness and some sort of handicapped, yet no one is really there to show or teach gay people how to deal with their situation or even understand why they are different than most of society.

    I have a friend who is so talented but he can not come to terms with who he is. He drinks so much and it's scary to me. I really like him, he's killing himself!! UGH!!!

    My heart goes out to so many young men who are confused, sad and upset with being gay. They try really hard to be straight, choose jobs that are considered normal....to ultimately have it all come crashing down to finally realize they are a homosexual. This can cause more emotional and mental stress.

    My thought came as I saw a blind man walk across the street. He had cretin equipment, like a long walking stick, no dog this time, but he did hear the beeps to let him know it was safe to walk. He was dressed impeccably and he held onto his hat because the wind was blowing hard. Something deep inside told me he was more than just blind. I really wanted to say hello, but I was in my car.......

    The idea of society making it safe FOR him hit hard.....

    It's not SAFE for us...pondericon_cry.gif
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    Apr 30, 2010 2:07 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI was on adam4adam.com awhile back and there was this blind guy on there. I wondered how he was able to use the website and communicate with people. He took a photo with his cane and he wasn't focused on the camera so it looked believable. I wondered if he had some sort of automated software that could read e-mails for him. So I contacted him to start a conversation.

    He never did respond back. Not sure why not or if he was a fake. But the thought of a blind gay man did get me to thinking about a lot of what you just typed.

    You don't have to limit this to being gay. Imagine what the world would be like if we were all blind. No more beauty pageants, no more popularity contests, so many industries that focus on beautification would not exist. We'd focus on inner development because our survival would depend on it.

    It's not just a gay thing. Look at all the woman throughout time that have focused on their physical attractiveness to ensnare a man. Straight men objectify woman which perpetuates their need to wear makeup, color their hair...etc.,etc.,etc.




    I know...seeing this blind guy who was all dressed in DKNY black and top hat really made me think. I had a life changing moment today!

    I do wonder about the gay issue....I mean I see so many who are up set. I also see women who like men but can't get a man....not over weight, just different......maybe nerdy so men are not attracted to that.... I am perplexed
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    Apr 30, 2010 2:18 AM GMT
    There are no handicaps. There are only challenges. icon_wink.gif
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    Apr 30, 2010 2:28 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidThere are no handicaps. There are only challenges. icon_wink.gif


    My heart goes out to these...including us....who are challenged.

    Why am I attracted to the "challenged" individual like this blind man. I was attracted to him....

    I am attracted to a nerdy woman I know. She has buck teeth, but she sings like a song bird from heaven.....

    My alcoholic friend...why? I adore him, When he touches me I feel a thousands pains of life disappear...but he's a mess....UGH!!!
  • Iluros

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    Apr 30, 2010 2:33 AM GMT
    The other day I was in my commute and a blind woman walked up and asked if she was in the right place for the bus she needed. I told her yes and gave the approximate time of departure.

    An older woman proceeded to ask her a bunch of questions about her blindness and proclaimed that she was "so sorry" for her, to which the blind woman replied "I'm not."

    I didn't say anything (which I probably ought to have), but several of my family members are involved in the deaf community so the I felt I had more awareness of how rude the older woman was really being. Then I got to thinking about how I wouldn't want other people treating me as if there was something "wrong" with me because I am gay. It seems perfectly reasonable and healthy that the blind woman would come to accept the way that she is.

    I suppose the reason that this is unusual is because before that experience I had a very anti-PC attitude towards everything and it seemed pointless to try to sugarcoat a disability. But it really does make an impact on people when the people you encounter treat you like you're less because you're different. So... yeah.
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    Apr 30, 2010 2:36 AM GMT


    I had an uncle who was blinded late in his life and I often wonder what it was like for him to have been able to see and have that blessing taken frm him and how much he valued of what he had that was lost. Ahhh ha moments are powerful resources to gain perspective.
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    Apr 30, 2010 2:39 AM GMT
    Hillie said

    I had an uncle who was blinded late in his life and I often wonder what it was like for him to have been able to see and have that blessing taken frm him and how much he valued of what he had that was lost. Ahhh ha moments are powerful resources to gain perspective.




    I am gay...I have lived a hard, challenged life...but I can see!

    I can drive my cars, I can cook my food and most of all hug the one's I love and see them grow up.....
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    Apr 30, 2010 2:45 AM GMT
    "We" treat overweight,
    the non color of our preferences,
    too fem,
    older Gay Men
    as they themselves have an ailment.

    I shared "we" because I include myself in that statement. I try each day to be humble and thankful of what has been given to me and realize that there are individuals that may have struggles which we need to be sensitive and not shallow.

    One day at a time.

    C
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    Apr 30, 2010 2:56 AM GMT
    Mystic_Man said
    Hillie said

    I had an uncle who was blinded late in his life and I often wonder what it was like for him to have been able to see and have that blessing taken frm him and how much he valued of what he had that was lost. Ahhh ha moments are powerful resources to gain perspective.




    I am gay...I have lived a hard, challenged life...but I can see!

    I can drive my cars, I can cook my food and most of all hug the one's I love and see them grow up.....


    Understood. I too have lived in some terms a hard life and in others I've lived a life of privilege. The Ahh ha is the realization that there is no comparison equivalent as we all internalize differently. The challenge is knowing that every one's thirst for love, happiness and success are the same but the paths traveled to quench that thirst are very different.
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    Apr 30, 2010 3:00 AM GMT
    DallasCali6DayGuy said"We" treat overweight,
    the non color of our preferences,
    too fem,
    older Gay Men
    as they themselves have an ailment.

    I shared "we" because I include myself in that statement. I try each day to be humble and thankful of what has been given to me and realize that there are individuals that may have struggles which we need to be sensitive and not shallow.

    One day at a time.

    C


    I know mortality takes many odd turns. I am in tune with mine. I know I will not "BE" as I am forever. My legacy? Ionic in some ways.....what I do in reality is not known here...but I could never have accomplished any of it if I were blind.

    Thank you universe....thank you...thank you!
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    Apr 30, 2010 3:04 AM GMT
    Mystic_Man saidDo you feel being gay is a handicap?


    Only when I'm around most other gay men.

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREIs there such a thing as a blind gay man?


    Metaphorically, yes. Just take a look at this site.

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HERE
    I look around here and all the online websites and most of what I see is visual.


    Gay men are shallow and vain. They want something that constantly makes their prick stand on end, and that looks and acts exactly as they do. Beyond that, they're not interested. Such is life. There's no point in trying to fight it.

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREEveryone here hot lists another, drooling over posted pics, falling in love with a digital image. Why? Do you find it a form of body worshiping?


    See above. And, the only way to rectify this, would be to have people remove their pictures. But the egos of the participants here wouldn't allow for that.

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREDo you find that social websites like this help you to cope with "being different"?


    No. If anything, they reinforce differences.

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HERE
    Then again...what about the blind man that's a homosexual? Is there such a thing?


    Of course.

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREToday, it hit me...I see a lot of laws for people who are handicapped physically, mentally and even emotionally and many other things. These individuals get a lot of assistance, finical help and their burdens are eased from other members in society. This should be the case. Even for GAY people who have RIGHTS????......

    Now, I am wondering, why is it that homosexuality is treated like some huge sickness and some sort of handicapped, yet no one is really there to show or teach gay people how to deal with their situation or even understand why they are different than most of society.

    I have a friend who is so talented but he can not come to terms with who he is. He drinks so much and it's scary to me. I really like him, he's killing himself!! UGH!!!

    My heart goes out to so many young men who are confused, sad and upset with being gay. They try really hard to be straight, choose jobs that are considered normal....to ultimately have it all come crashing down to finally realize they are a homosexual. This can cause more emotional and mental stress.

    My thought came as I saw a blind man walk across the street. He had cretin equipment, like a long walking stick, no dog this time, but he did hear the beeps to let him know it was safe to walk. He was dressed impeccably and he held onto his hat because the wind was blowing hard. Something deep inside told me he was more than just blind. I really wanted to say hello, but I was in my car.......

    The idea of society making it safe FOR him hit hard.....

    It's not SAFE for us...pondericon_cry.gif


    You need to look at what goes on on a site like this. You have people claiming to love being gay and yet they practice strict conformity according to straight societal norms. You have threads dealing with masculine men ("str8 acting") vs. feminine, white vs. black, asian, latino, etc., class issues, promiscuity vs. monogamy, and the list goes on. Values are freely assigned, and people's sense of self-worth is destroyed.

    I don't blame any people my age for not wanting to be gay and not wanting to affiliate with other gays. There is nothing but ego and segregation, and everyone's content with the way things are. Why anyone would want to acknowledge their gayness and be thrown into this mix, I can't know. It's a death wish. It is highly exclusive and destructive.

    Gays have done a shitty job making gay havens safe and inclusive for themselves. You can't expect straights to give a damn.
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    Apr 30, 2010 3:10 AM GMT
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    Mystic_Man saidDo you feel being gay is a handicap?


    Only when I'm around most other gay men.

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREIs there such a thing as a blind gay man?


    Metaphorically, yes. Just take a look at this site.

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HERE
    I look around here and all the online websites and most of what I see is visual.


    Gay men are shallow and vain. They want something that constantly makes their prick stand on end, and that looks and acts exactly as they do. Beyond that, they're not interested. Such is life. There's no point in trying to fight it.

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREEveryone here hot lists another, drooling over posted pics, falling in love with a digital image. Why? Do you find it a form of body worshiping?


    See above. And, the only way to rectify this, would be to have people remove their pictures. But the egos of the participants here wouldn't allow for that.

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREDo you find that social websites like this help you to cope with "being different"?


    No. If anything, they reinforce differences.

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HERE
    Then again...what about the blind man that's a homosexual? Is there such a thing?


    Of course.

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREToday, it hit me...I see a lot of laws for people who are handicapped physically, mentally and even emotionally and many other things. These individuals get a lot of assistance, finical help and their burdens are eased from other members in society. This should be the case. Even for GAY people who have RIGHTS????......

    Now, I am wondering, why is it that homosexuality is treated like some huge sickness and some sort of handicapped, yet no one is really there to show or teach gay people how to deal with their situation or even understand why they are different than most of society.

    I have a friend who is so talented but he can not come to terms with who he is. He drinks so much and it's scary to me. I really like him, he's killing himself!! UGH!!!

    My heart goes out to so many young men who are confused, sad and upset with being gay. They try really hard to be straight, choose jobs that are considered normal....to ultimately have it all come crashing down to finally realize they are a homosexual. This can cause more emotional and mental stress.

    My thought came as I saw a blind man walk across the street. He had cretin equipment, like a long walking stick, no dog this time, but he did hear the beeps to let him know it was safe to walk. He was dressed impeccably and he held onto his hat because the wind was blowing hard. Something deep inside told me he was more than just blind. I really wanted to say hello, but I was in my car.......

    The idea of society making it safe FOR him hit hard.....

    It's not SAFE for us...pondericon_cry.gif


    You need to look at what goes on on a site like this. You have people claiming to love being gay and yet they practice strict conformity according to straight societal norms. You have threads dealing with masculine men ("str8 acting") vs. feminine, white vs. black, asian, latino, etc., class issues, promiscuity vs. monogamy, and the list goes on. Values are freely assigned, and people's sense of self-worth is destroyed.







    I don't blame any people my age for not wanting to be gay and not wanting to affiliate with other gays.

    I do like being gay. I know who I am ...I am proud of myself....I have super exceeded all my ideas of what I could do as a gay man....




    There is nothing but ego and segregation, and everyone's content with the way things are. Why anyone would want to acknowledge their gayness and be thrown into this mix, I can't know. It's a death wish. It is highly exclusive and destructive.

    I am open. I am a hedonist. I believe life is designed for pleasure. I never had an issue sharing myself...still don't with the world...

    Gays have done a shitty job making gay havens safe and inclusive for themselves. You can't expect straights to give a damn.



    I GIVE A DAM!

    I have these same feelings...It hit me hard today...

    I need a meditation====vacation!!
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    Apr 30, 2010 4:57 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
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    paulflexes saidThere are no handicaps. There are only challenges. icon_wink.gif


    My heart goes out to these...including us....who are challenged.

    Why am I attracted to the "challenged" individual like this blind man. I was attracted to him....

    I am attracted to a nerdy woman I know. She has buck teeth, but she sings like a song bird from heaven.....

    My alcoholic friend...why? I adore him, When he touches me I feel a thousands pains of life disappear...but he's a mess....UGH!!!



    Maybe you have that "savior complex" that people talk of every now and then.


    I wonder and I think that can get a person into trouble. I fall for it...I am odd. It's a weakness. The hurt birds of the world. I am not JC>>>>
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    May 15, 2011 5:44 AM GMT
    Speaking as a gay Vision Impaired man I can tell you we are out there, and let me tell you it's hard to be gay and be vision impaired at the same time. You see I'm also an Albino so therefore I look different, and as we all know any differences is not looked upon favourably in the gay world.

    I was born and albino, vision impaired and I was born gay. I would love to talk about my life and experiences in the gay world if anyone want's to listen or ask me questions.

    I'm glad someone has started talking about this topic.
  • Teqkilla42

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    May 15, 2011 6:00 AM GMT
    I've always wondered: If we were all blind, would we be more critical of people's voices/smells/etc?
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    May 15, 2011 6:33 AM GMT
    aww .... When i read ur post i felt i am so greedy idk why , However i liked ur way expressing the Scene .. u saw ..