Antivirus software.

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    May 01, 2010 2:47 PM GMT
    Has the number of viruses to be scanned for made AV software so bloated that it has become as annoying as the threat of a virus?

    I have McAfee at work, and Norton on some machines at home and Trend Micro on others. While it does slow down my machine, Trend's is the least burdensome, I think. Hard to tell whose is more effective as I don't think I've ever encountered a virus.

    I wonder sometimes if the AV houses are responsible for most viruses to begin with.
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    May 01, 2010 2:58 PM GMT
    McAfee sucks.
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    May 01, 2010 3:57 PM GMT
    hroark91 saidMcAfee sucks.


    I agree McAfee does suck. I remember when i was a weee little boy, icon_lol.gif, with our first computer it had McAfee and it was infested. I didn't know how bad it was until I put Norton on there and it found a shit load. From my teenage to my adult years i reall yhaven't encountered and virus'. I started using some of the free software. First I tried CA, now i'm using Avg now still virus free.

    I think it varies on the person though. I've put norton, avg and CA many friends computers and they receive countless virus'.
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    May 01, 2010 4:32 PM GMT
    McGay saidHas the number of viruses to be scanned for made AV software so bloated that it has become as annoying as the threat of a virus?

    I have McAfee at work, and Norton on some machines at home and Trend Micro on others. While it does slow down my machine, Trend's is the least burdensome, I think. Hard to tell whose is more effective as I don't think I've ever encountered a virus.

    I wonder sometimes if the AV houses are responsible for most viruses to begin with.


    I've picked up viruses in the past - as is almost inevitable if you do a lot of browsing (even if it's not for porn ;) ) - even a number of wordpress (blog) installations were infected not so long ago.

    I've abandoned the other virus checkers with Windows 7. My techie friends tell me the native one that comes with Windows is really good (presuming you've got a legal copy). I do however still scan from time to time with Malwarebytes' Anti-malware which is available as non-commercial freeware (just Google it) for rooting out malware that a browser can pick up. A scary stat is that more than 50% of malware (which isn't quite a virus but can both cause havoc and open you up to viruses/trojans) only showed up in 2009.

    I've also abandoned Firefox (I switched from IE about 2 years ago) in favor of Chrome. So much happier with it though it took a bit of adjustment to new extensions/add-ons and it's immeasurably faster. It's also supposed to be "safest". Oh and no, the AV houses are not responsible for most of the viruses - they don't need to be. There are plenty of incentives to create new viruses given how lax people are about things like passwords and online banking.
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    May 01, 2010 5:17 PM GMT
    I just had MAJOR problem with my laptop this past March... just as I was submitting my resume and application to the US State Dept. Over a period of a week, my laptop crashed close to 30 times. I was on the verge of an absolute panic. I eventually received some free online help from some awesome and knowledgeable people in the tech field.

    I had a Microsoft employee doing some 'pro bono' work tell me that Norton is notorious for slowing down computers. Part the problem I had was that Norton was causing my computer to crash, and that I had an infection transferred to my laptop from an infected USB drive. He suggested I use Avast Antivirus for a while and see how I liked it - he likes it and he has it installed on his computers.

    I have the freeware version that will last for 14 months before I have to purchase the actual product. I apparently have the option of buying just the antivirus or the "all in one" extra features for roughly $20 more. I think I will purchase the subscription because I really like how it works... and my computer is much faster now than it was with Norton. Avast also has some security features Norton doesn't... so it's a plus in my view.
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    May 01, 2010 5:37 PM GMT
    Try Webroot..its the best...icon_exclaim.gif
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    May 01, 2010 5:44 PM GMT
    Ditto on Masculine31:

    I also use WebRoot and like it a lot! Norton DEFINITELY slows down a machine.
  • code_joe

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    May 01, 2010 5:48 PM GMT
    I've been using Microsoft's Security Essentials since they came out with it because I like the smaller more streamlined ones as well. Before that I would only use Symantec's Corporate AV since it had a low impack. But I have found the one from microsoft doesn't slow my machines down at all. Best yet is that it's free.

    http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/
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    May 01, 2010 5:50 PM GMT
    I use NOD-32. It's free and actually really amazing!
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    May 01, 2010 5:55 PM GMT
    cadudesf saidDitto on Masculine31:

    I also use WebRoot and like it a lot! Norton DEFINITELY slows down a machine.


    I learned the hard way *POCKET BOOK* icon_lol.gif
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    May 01, 2010 6:18 PM GMT
    I guess it would depend on your net use and how savvy you are with your computer. For someone who just wants to install the cd and let the thing do its job, go for Norton Internet Security 2010. If you know what you're doing and want to make some type of alterations to files and what not go get Kaspersky 2010.

    In terms of the best,

    for regular usage I would say grab Bit Defender or Norton Internet Security.

    for more experience grab Kaspersky.
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    May 01, 2010 6:48 PM GMT
    Whats a Virus??? you mean like the flu? is there an app to check for that. sorry I have mac
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    May 01, 2010 6:58 PM GMT
    AVG = Win
    All the rest suck ass.
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    May 01, 2010 7:07 PM GMT
    Nyflava said...I think it varies on the person though. I've put norton, avg and CA many friends computers and they receive countless virus'.

    My partner had Avast on his previous HP Windows desktop. But he was also always opening chain email sent from friends, stuff had been through dozens of forwards, because he has a weakness for "joke of the day" stuff, or these inspirational stories you're warned to pass along to others or else your legs will fall off or something else bad'll happen to you, many of them with embedded links.

    And so of course he was constantly getting viruses, spyware, trojans, etc, that managed to avoid his anti-virus program. He couldn't believe his friends would be sending him viruses, but I'd try to explain when email goes through that many PCs, only the last sender actually someone he knows, the chances that one of those computers is infected goes way up. And that the virus attaches itself invisibly, that his friends wouldn't even know it, unless they had anti-virus software capable of detecting it in the email. (His personal email account is with AOL, which is supposed to have its own virus protections, but they still get through)

    I'd tell him it's like they say about having promiscuous sex: you're having sex not only with that person, but also with everyone they've had sex with, and that those others have had sex with, ad infinitum. Part of avoiding viruses is avoiding places where viruses are commonly found. Finally he got the message, and today rarely opens any email from these people if it's a forward, only an original subject. He hasn't gotten a virus in over a year.
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    May 01, 2010 7:41 PM GMT
    ClamAV is an Open Source (free) antivirus program that works on Windows and other Operating Systems. Works like a charm on my WindowsXP virtual machine.
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    May 01, 2010 7:46 PM GMT
    chungo44 saidWhats a Virus??? you mean like the flu? is there an app to check for that. sorry I have mac


    Lmao i do tooicon_lol.gif But for those who use windows icon_eek.gif
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    May 01, 2010 8:11 PM GMT
    chungo44 saidWhats a Virus??? you mean like the flu? is there an app to check for that. sorry I have mac


    http://blog.parametersecurity.com/2009/05/19/the-myth-of-the-virus-free-mac/

    Bottomline: the only reason that Mac's see fewer viruses is simply because fewer people use Macs. The reality is that they're probably just as if not more vulnerable from a security standpoint.
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    May 01, 2010 8:13 PM GMT
    I think a lot of the "virus" that are out there now really have some goal of either making your machine into a "bot" or a Trojan to steal information from you machine. "bot" networks are actually sold and used in all kinds of crimes likes spam or just to cover their tracks in some sort of cyber-fraud. Then there are those that harvest your computer for information for something that might be profitable (identity theft etc..)

    There are different ways of rating anti-virus software effectiveness and you will find lots of reviews (google anti-virus ratings).

    Recently McAfee had a big problem in which they incorrectly identified a crucial piece of windows software a virus and proceeded to debilitate those machines!!
    http://www.osnews.com/story/23196/McAfee_Identifies_Core_Windows_File_as_MaliciousA version of the McAfee antivirus software used in the corporate and public sectors misidentified the svchost.exe file in Windows XP systems as malware, sending the affected machines into a loop of restarts. Only users of McAfee VirusScan Enterprise on Windows XP service pack 3 were affected, but the fallout was pretty severe, with hospital and police systems among those taken down.

    If you are using an alternative operating system like Linux of course your risk will be different.
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    May 01, 2010 8:15 PM GMT
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    chungo44 saidWhats a Virus??? you mean like the flu? is there an app to check for that. sorry I have mac


    http://blog.parametersecurity.com/2009/05/19/the-myth-of-the-virus-free-mac/

    Bottomline: the only reason that Mac's see fewer viruses is simply because fewer people use Macs. The reality is that they're probably just as if not vulnerable from a security standpoint.
    Also in the past few years at hacking contests, macs are usually the first to fall .. usually in a matter of minutes. So you are right, if virus writers and hackers really wanted to they could pounce Macs. So yeah, don't be lulled into a false sense of security.
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    May 01, 2010 8:29 PM GMT
    ActiveAndFit said
    riddler78 said
    chungo44 saidWhats a Virus??? you mean like the flu? is there an app to check for that. sorry I have mac


    http://blog.parametersecurity.com/2009/05/19/the-myth-of-the-virus-free-mac/

    Bottomline: the only reason that Mac's see fewer viruses is simply because fewer people use Macs. The reality is that they're probably just as if not vulnerable from a security standpoint.
    Also in the past few years at hacking contests, macs are usually the first to fall .. usually in a matter of minutes. So you are right, if virus writers and hackers really wanted to they could pounce Macs. So yeah, don't be lulled into a false sense of security.

    Wait. Are we actually agreeing on something? icon_wink.gif
  • Webster666

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    May 01, 2010 8:34 PM GMT
    I used to have a PC and all kinds of problems.
    Now, I have a MAC.
    No virus protection.
    No viruses.
    Problem solved.
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    May 02, 2010 12:48 AM GMT
    AVG Anti-Virus has a free version that's very effective.

    http://www.avg.com/us-en/homepage
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    May 02, 2010 1:21 AM GMT
    free.avg.com
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    May 02, 2010 1:43 AM GMT
    lol you should think twice before grabbing AVG. you're getting what you're paying for remember that.

    A search on Google with the word "free antivirus" will have AVG topped the list.
    Why is it AVG that is so popular? AVG is light weight, had high detection rates and does its job well. That was back when AVG was in the good version 7.5.

    AVG has bad detection rates. A lot of people who use it say that AVG allows a lot of trojans to bypass it and on top of that AVG is unable to remove viruses. Quarantine doesn't equal removable. just spend the 60 bucks and grab norton or kaspersky.
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    May 02, 2010 1:50 AM GMT
    AVG is ok. It's gotten kinda bloated over the years. But so have all the other AV programs. Microsoft Security Essentials is pretty decent. And it's free. If you want a more advanced firewall program other than what comes with Windows, Zone Alarm is good. There's a free and paid version. The only Norton product you should buy is the Symantec corporate version of their AV software. It's non intrusive, relatively light, it's effective, and you don't have to pay the annual extortion subscription for the virus definition updates, like you do in the consumer AV product. You can buy a single license OEM version for around $40.

    If you're tech savvy and know not to click on certain things on the internet, you won't need AV software. But often times, you can't avoid drive-by downloads, Flash exploits, and web browser cross-scripting attacks. So that's when AV and firewall software come in handy. Also, use Firefox with the Adblock extension, and the NoScript extension.