Would you join this organization?

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    May 10, 2010 6:19 AM GMT
    "Preserving Traditional Marriage

    Because our children’s future is best preserved within the traditional understanding of marriage, we call for a constitutional amendment that fully protects marriage as a union of a man and a woman, so that judges cannot make other arrangements equivalent to it. In the absence of a national amendment, we support the right of the people of the various states to affirm traditional marriage through state initiatives.

    The two-parent family still provides the best environment of stability, discipline, responsibility, and character. Children in homes without fathers are more likely to commit a crime, drop out of school, become violent, become teen parents, use illegal drugs, become mired in poverty, or have emotional or behavioral problems. We support the courageous efforts of single-parent families to provide a stable home for their children. Children are our nation’s most precious resource. We also salute and support the efforts of foster and adoptive families.

    A Republican Congress enacted the Defense of Marriage Act, affirming the right of states not to recognize same-sex “marriages” licensed in other states. Unbelievably, the Democratic Party has now pledged to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act, which would subject every state to the redefinition of marriage by a judge without ever allowing the people to vote on the matter. We also urge Congress to use its Article III, Section 2 power to prevent activist federal judges from imposing upon the rest of the nation the judicial activism in Massachusetts and California. We also encourage states to review their marriage and divorce laws in order to strengthen marriage.

    We support the First Amendment right of freedom of association of the Boy Scouts of America and other service organizations whose values are under assault, and we call upon the Commonwealth of Massachusetts to reverse its policy of blacklisting religious groups which decline to arrange adoptions by same-sex couples.

    As the family is our basic unit of society, we oppose initiatives to erode parental rights.

    Esprit and cohesion are necessary for military effectiveness and success on the battlefield. To protect our servicemen and women and ensure that America's Armed Forces remain the best in the world, we affirm the timelessness of those values, the benefits of traditional military culture, and the incompatibility of homosexuality with military service."

    Would you, many on here have.
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    May 10, 2010 8:52 AM GMT
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    Fucking asshat!

    Dealing with right-wing trolls
    http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/12/04/dealing-with-right-wing-trolls/E

    by Sunny H
    December 4, 2008 at 9:53 am

    There’s an interesting blog post here about online trolling, which basically affirms my theory that if a blog’s debate level is allowed to deteriorate by allowing loads of trolling, then it gets worse.

    The ‘broken windows’ theory, online:

    Much of the tone of discourse online is governed by the level of moderation and to what extent people are encouraged to “own” their words. When forums, message boards, and blog comment threads with more than a handful of participants are unmoderated, bad behavior follows. The appearance of one troll encourages others. Undeleted hateful or ad hominem comments are an indication that that sort of thing is allowable behavior and encourages more of the same. Those commenters who are normally respectable participants are emboldened by the uptick in bad behavior and misbehave themselves.

    This is why we have a tight comments policy, and I stick by my view that drive-by commenters who come here only to say ‘oh you call yourself liberals then‘, or ‘lefties are just stalinist evil scum‘ etc, will have their vowels removed. This is a debate and discussion site aimed at the liberal-left, though it is an open site and I encourage constructive debate, broken windows will not be tolerated for obvious reasons. If you want to hurl insults, use Guido Fawkes – that’s all they do there.
  • stratavos

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    May 10, 2010 2:13 PM GMT
    o.o There's nothing on there about motherless families. Regardless I wouldn't join the organization.
  • HndsmKansan

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    May 10, 2010 2:54 PM GMT
    My initial reaction was... sounds like an organization from the 1950's....

    Yes, I was a cub scout and enjoyed it very much. Was very disappointed when I heard about their lack of flexibility.

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    May 11, 2010 2:20 AM GMT
    I just figured that those that follow the republican party and thus their platform should understand what the republican party stands for, and yes it is trolling.

    This was taken straight from the GOP website.

    And if you want to say that you believe in the other positions then fine, cause a lot of what they say is great, it's just the part that they don't think I, or my fellow gay brothers and sister are worthy, is what bothers me.
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    May 11, 2010 3:29 AM GMT
    EMSman saidI just figured that those that follow the republican party and thus their platform should understand what the republican party stands for, and yes it is trolling.

    This was taken straight from the GOP website.

    And if you want to say that you believe in the other positions then fine, cause a lot of what they say is great, it's just the part that they don't think I, or my fellow gay brothers and sister are worthy, is what bothers me.


    Bravo! I didn't know that this was the official platform of the Republican Party. Like you said, I do have some views on specific issues that are part of their platform, but the "brand" they have created during my lifetime is not one which I trust, or want to associate with.

    I consider myself rather moderate, a person who supports issues as opposed to parties and platforms, and is possibly conservative in regards to fiscal responsibility and defense. I tend to be more liberal on social and environmental issues and am more than happy to pay my fair share of taxes for good, well governed programs that foster a higher standard of living for all people. I am happy to do this because I am blessed to be well, whole, and fairly intelligent in the ways of creating value. I believe in abundance and not scarcity. I have compassion for those who for whatever reason may not be able to help themselves because all it takes is a moment and an event to completely change my life to one where I couldn't take care of myself.

    America appears to be divided at this time in history. There is a great partisan divide and debate on issues often digresses into bitter rants punctuated by insults and epithets as civility evaporates. I have been guilty of the very thing that I have observed. But I'm still trying to understand and overcome my own shortcomings because hate will not be ended by more hate. The divide will only be bridged by reaching out, attempting to understand, and making good faith efforts to find points of agreement and work from there.

    On some points, we may never agree. I just hope that we, as a nation, can find a way to "agree to just disagree" and still be at peace with each other.

    The alternative is that we tear ourselves apart in civil war, and I don't believe that would be the best for humanity going forward.
  • Webster666

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    May 11, 2010 3:40 AM GMT
    Actually, I prefer that people mind their own damn business.

    Give me just one example of how gay marriage has any effect whatsoever on a straight marriage.

    Bzzzzzzzzt !

    Time's up.

    Get out of the booth.