New coverage for young adults will raise premiums

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    May 10, 2010 9:46 PM GMT
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100510/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_overhaul_young_adults
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    May 11, 2010 2:45 AM GMT
    AND? your point?
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    May 11, 2010 2:47 AM GMT
    by 0.7%! OMG! Whatever can we DO!?!??!?!?!
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    May 11, 2010 2:53 AM GMT
    Ah, the two most flamboyant right-wing trolls - BAREFOOTDUDE AND SOUTHBEACH - desperately trying to bring up the HCR issue again.
    Yawn.

    And btw, BFD, the "new coverage for young adults" is an extremely popular feature of the bill.
    People are glad that this feature is now law.

    And, SB, the Bush prescription drug bill that the Repubs rammed through the Congress is 100% UNPAID FOR.
    100% of the cost of it gets larded onto the National Debt.
    So, I'm sure you agree, SB, that the Republicans are much more guilty of irreponsible deficit spending on health related reform bills, eh?
  • Webster666

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    May 11, 2010 3:33 AM GMT
    TALK ABOUT TAKING THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT !!

    " Letting young adults stay on their parents' health insurance until they turn 26 will nudge premiums nearly 1 percent higher for employer plans, the government said in an estimate released Monday."

    "NEARLY 1% HIGHER"

    Omg, whatever shall we do ?!

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    May 11, 2010 3:46 AM GMT
    The end result of this health care bill is it is going to cost everyone more money because everyone's health insurance premium will go up 1%. The average cost of a family plan is over $13,000 per year. This will be an increase of over $130 per year on everyone's insurance premimum per year.

    $130 per year doesn;t sound like a lot of money, but now take a large corporation like UPS and that $130 translates to millions of dollars in increased costs. Looks like some more layoffs are in the plans to cover this increased cost they will have in September. I hate to see what the rate of unemployment is going to be at the end of this year.
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    May 11, 2010 3:47 AM GMT
    Remember people: block the trolls, don't feed them :-)
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    May 11, 2010 3:58 AM GMT
    rickrick91 saidAh, the two most flamboyant right-wing trolls - BAREFOOTDUDE AND SOUTHBEACH - desperately trying to bring up the HCR issue again.
    Yawn.

    And btw, BFD, the "new coverage for young adults" is an extremely popular feature of the bill.
    People are glad that this feature is now law.

    And, SB, the Bush prescription drug bill that the Repubs rammed through the Congress is 100% UNPAID FOR.
    100% of the cost of it gets larded onto the National Debt.
    So, I'm sure you agree, SB, that the Republicans are much more guilty of irreponsible deficit spending on health related reform bills, eh?


    It won't be too popular anymore after the layoffs come and unemployment rises as large corporations are forced to make further cuts to cover the millions of dollars in increased premiums. Do you realize how many premimums a corporation the size of UPS has? They have as many premimums as there are employees. The amount is staggering. No turkey this year again lol. But that is only $15. They still have to cut $115 from each worker and since they can't cut wages or benefits from anyone due to the collective bargaining agreement they signed with the Teamsters union, the only way to recover this added expence is to have more layoffs across the country
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    May 11, 2010 4:14 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidTALK ABOUT TAKING THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT !!

    " Letting young adults stay on their parents' health insurance until they turn 26 will nudge premiums nearly 1 percent higher for employer plans, the government said in an estimate released Monday."

    "NEARLY 1% HIGHER"

    Omg, whatever shall we do ?!



    Are you just out of the loop or don't you keep up on the massive failure that the new health care law is ?

    Looks like all the savings expected aren't going to materialize when more and more companies decide that it's less expensive to pay the fine than pay health care benifits. Oh, where will the 26 year old "adults" be then ?

    Whatever happened to "if you like your health insurence , you can keep it " ?
    I guess medicaid will get a big boost ! Ever try to find a doctor who takes medicaid ?

    http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/05/news/companies/dropping_benefits.fortune/
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    May 11, 2010 4:19 AM GMT
    what a shame, next topic
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    May 11, 2010 4:38 AM GMT
    An 0.7% increase?
    Are you kidding?
    The health care corporate robbers wouldn't even bother raising premiums 0.7%.
    When they raise their premiums - they RAISE THEIR PREMIUMS!
    They've been jacking up rates by double digits already this year.
    They'd laugh at the idea of making a wimpy cowardly little increase like that.
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    May 11, 2010 4:51 AM GMT
    This topic's headline needs more cowbells.
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    May 11, 2010 5:13 AM GMT
    Umm...didn't they raise rates 63% this year? How does all this noise matter?

    Logan, my 21 year old roommate, who is a type 1 diabetic, will be able to get back on his dad's insurance in September. Right now, he has to choose between dieing and eating, and no 21 year old should have to do that. Some of you folks are sickening. Look at regular countries! They decided all this decades ago.

    Logan has insurance that his dad is paying for, but, he has a "pre-existing" condition, so the crooks are lining their pocket on him for the time being.

    Recently, we spent 3.5 hours in the E.R. It was our last choice, but, we were refused by two other agencies, and Logan was very sick. The bill for 1 bag of saline, some atavan, 3cc of morphine, and some atenenol, with a BMP? $4400. That's beyond obscene.

    As Americans, we should be ashamed of how some of us behave. Look at you.
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    May 11, 2010 5:27 AM GMT
    TigerTim saidby 0.7%! OMG! Whatever can we DO!?!??!?!?!


    omg beyond lol! icon_lol.gif
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    May 11, 2010 5:46 AM GMT
    barefootdude saidThe end result of this health care bill is it is going to cost everyone more money because everyone's health insurance premium will go up 1%. The average cost of a family plan is over $13,000 per year. This will be an increase of over $130 per year on everyone's insurance premimum per year.

    $130 per year doesn;t sound like a lot of money, but now take a large corporation like UPS and that $130 translates to millions of dollars in increased costs. Looks like some more layoffs are in the plans to cover this increased cost they will have in September. I hate to see what the rate of unemployment is going to be at the end of this year.



    Omg, UPS and all the other multi billion dollar corporations will GO OUT OF BUSINESS if they have to scrape together enough cash to pay their share of health insurance for their employees !!

    Let me tell you something.
    When the USPS (Yes, I know it's not UPS) raises first class postage by ONE CENT, they take in an extra BILLION DOLLARS a year. That's just one example.

    Regardless, the health care legislation has passed and been signed into law.
    So, you're wasting your radical right wing Republican religious nut time whining about it.
  • Webster666

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    May 11, 2010 5:53 AM GMT
    barefootdude said
    rickrick91 saidAh, the two most flamboyant right-wing trolls - BAREFOOTDUDE AND SOUTHBEACH - desperately trying to bring up the HCR issue again.
    Yawn.

    And btw, BFD, the "new coverage for young adults" is an extremely popular feature of the bill.
    People are glad that this feature is now law.

    And, SB, the Bush prescription drug bill that the Repubs rammed through the Congress is 100% UNPAID FOR.
    100% of the cost of it gets larded onto the National Debt.
    So, I'm sure you agree, SB, that the Republicans are much more guilty of irreponsible deficit spending on health related reform bills, eh?


    It won't be too popular anymore after the layoffs come and unemployment rises as large corporations are forced to make further cuts to cover the millions of dollars in increased premiums. Do you realize how many premimums a corporation the size of UPS has? They have as many premimums as there are employees. The amount is staggering. No turkey this year again lol. But that is only $15. They still have to cut $115 from each worker and since they can't cut wages or benefits from anyone due to the collective bargaining agreement they signed with the Teamsters union, the only way to recover this added expence is to have more layoffs across the country




    Dear Chicken Little,
    Stupid.
    Yes, you.
    Have a little common sense.
    UPS is not going to lay off people.
    If they lay off people, who will deliver all the packages that come into their offices ?

    They have 2 choices.
    1) For their top tier executives, trim their million dollar bonuses by just a itty bitty little bit.
    2) Raise their prices by just a itty bitty little bit.


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    May 11, 2010 5:56 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidUmm...didn't they raise rates 63% this year? How does all this noise matter?

    Logan, my 21 year old roommate, who is a type 1 diabetic, will be able to get back on his dad's insurance in September. Right now, he has to chose between dieing and eating, and no 21 year old should have to do that. Some of you folks are sickening. Look at regular countries! They decided all this decades ago.

    Logan has insurance that his dad is paying for, but, he has a "pre-existing" condition, so the crooks are lining their pocket on him for the time being.

    Recently, we spent 3.5 hours in the E.R. It was our last choice, but, we were refused by two other agencies, and Logan was very sick. The bill for 1 bag of saline, some atavan, 3cc of morphine, and some atenenol, with a BMP? $4400. That's beyond obscene.

    As Americans, we should be ashamed of how some of us behave. Look at you.



    When I read real stories like this, it puts everything into perspective. Evil nut jobs like the OP could care less whether people have basic health care.
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    May 11, 2010 6:04 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidUmm...didn't they raise rates 63% this year? How does all this noise matter?

    Logan, my 21 year old roommate, who is a type 1 diabetic, will be able to get back on his dad's insurance in September. Right now, he has to chose between dieing and eating, and no 21 year old should have to do that. Some of you folks are sickening. Look at regular countries! They decided all this decades ago.

    Logan has insurance that his dad is paying for, but, he has a "pre-existing" condition, so the crooks are lining their pocket on him for the time being.

    Recently, we spent 3.5 hours in the E.R. It was our last choice, but, we were refused by two other agencies, and Logan was very sick. The bill for 1 bag of saline, some atavan, 3cc of morphine, and some atenenol, with a BMP? $4400. That's beyond obscene.

    As Americans, we should be ashamed of how some of us behave. Look at you.

    This is unfortunately not a fluke, but rather the way of the United States health care system (because other countries have discovered solutions so simple that our country apparently can't keep up).

    After being diagnosed with Cerebral Palsey, my brother lost his insurance and no one else would cover him. We managed to get him classified as disabled, so he could get Medicare. Problem? Even Medicare won't cover for therapies and treatments which doctors say are vital to his health. Right here in the good ole US of A. Nice, right?
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    May 11, 2010 6:06 AM GMT
    Webster666 said
    barefootdude said
    rickrick91 saidAh, the two most flamboyant right-wing trolls - BAREFOOTDUDE AND SOUTHBEACH - desperately trying to bring up the HCR issue again.
    Yawn.

    And btw, BFD, the "new coverage for young adults" is an extremely popular feature of the bill.
    People are glad that this feature is now law.

    And, SB, the Bush prescription drug bill that the Repubs rammed through the Congress is 100% UNPAID FOR.
    100% of the cost of it gets larded onto the National Debt.
    So, I'm sure you agree, SB, that the Republicans are much more guilty of irreponsible deficit spending on health related reform bills, eh?


    It won't be too popular anymore after the layoffs come and unemployment rises as large corporations are forced to make further cuts to cover the millions of dollars in increased premiums. Do you realize how many premimums a corporation the size of UPS has? They have as many premimums as there are employees. The amount is staggering. No turkey this year again lol. But that is only $15. They still have to cut $115 from each worker and since they can't cut wages or benefits from anyone due to the collective bargaining agreement they signed with the Teamsters union, the only way to recover this added expence is to have more layoffs across the country




    Dear Chicken Little,
    Stupid.
    Yes, you.
    Have a little common sense.
    UPS is not going to lay off people.
    If they lay off people, who will deliver all the packages that come into their offices ?

    They have 2 choices.
    1) For their top tier executives, trim their million dollar bonuses by just a itty bitty little bit.
    2) Raise their prices by just a itty bitty little bit.



    Gee. I wonder which of the two options they'll choose. Hmmm.
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    May 11, 2010 6:13 AM GMT
    barefootdude saidThe end result of this health care bill is it is going to cost everyone more money because everyone's health insurance premium will go up 1%. The average cost of a family plan is over $13,000 per year. This will be an increase of over $130 per year on everyone's insurance premimum per year.

    $130 per year doesn;t sound like a lot of money, but now take a large corporation like UPS and that $130 translates to millions of dollars in increased costs. Looks like some more layoffs are in the plans to cover this increased cost they will have in September. I hate to see what the rate of unemployment is going to be at the end of this year.


    Good to know you want me to go uninsured! Americans are stingy bastards. I swear.
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    May 11, 2010 6:43 AM GMT
    It doesn't really matter cause before anything goes into effect the next Republican will be in office sweeping it under the rug to focus on his own personal agenda that will benefit no one but his rich supporters. So the poor will continue being left for dead in waiting rooms, while minorities continue to get less than standard care, and any full time student over the age of 25 without wealthy parents will continue to ignore signs of illness because the cost of spending 5 minutes with a doctor only to get a prescription for legal narcotics (which they can't afford) exceeds their cost of living. While in the mean time the greedy private insurance companies and greedy physicians continue to cater to the more profitable patients.

    If we were to give doctors a salary cap and prevent insurance companies from focusing more on profits than patients care that would be a good start to the crises we are in. Plus it would separate the doctors who are in the field for the love of helping people from those who are in it for the money. But that's just my opinion.
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    May 11, 2010 11:35 AM GMT
    This is interesting because barefootdude has a kid who's around what...18? If she can't get a job and has to live at home for the next several years......

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    Of course barefootdudde won't keep her on his health insurance but will instead take out an expensive separate plan for her, right? icon_wink.gif
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    May 11, 2010 2:11 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    TigerTim saidby 0.7%! OMG! Whatever can we DO!?!??!?!?!

    One of the "benefits" of the healthcare reform bill was that costs were supposed to go DOWN. Instead, just the opposite is happening.

    Not everything goes to plan. 0.7% is an acceptable margin of error to everyone, with the exception of the GOP, if it expands healthcare. I'm sure the planned spending freeze will more than offset the fraction of an increase.
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    May 11, 2010 2:54 PM GMT
    Folks are forgetting the 63% percent increase that insurance carriers put forth before the insurance bill. Let's get to the facts. Read above. A 3 hour visit to the E.R. was $4400. That's ridiculous. That's the single most expensive way to provide care with HUGE profit taking on the back's of very sick folks and the system.

    Folks scream "capitalism." Well here's some capitalism for you. We would do well to take a lesson from the king capitalist of all: Walmart. Walmart drives down, and keeps down, prices, for everyone, in every store, because THEY ARE A SINGLE PAYER. Walmart says I'll take a trainload of pencils and if you won't do it at that price, I'll find someone else. PERIOD. Consequently, that ALSO DRIVES DOWN THE COSTS FOR EVERYONE THAT COMPETES WITH WALMART. THINK people, THINK.

    Giving Big Pharm and Big Insurance a fat check wasn't the answer, but, something had to be done, and we're better off than before, but, we should take a history lesson from the most capitalist of all and go to single payer, and and outcome based payment system rather than a per-code payment system that encourages tons of fraud and needless billing.

    The doctor that saw Logan charged $480 for THREE MINUTES of his time. That's very greedy.

    Clearly, the current system with its over the top increases in rates, exorbitant fees, is OUT OF CONTROL, and needed folks to FORCE Big Insurance to do the right thing. The E.R. is the last place that we should be providing care, NOT THE FIRST. Think people, THINK.

    I find the ignorance, and blatant lack of social responsibility, of some here, appalling. What if it was you that had an auto-immune disease, or one of your loved ones that had it? Likely you wouldn't hold the same position. Look at what you've become: a pretty pathetic and ignorant human being manipulated by propaganda of the very rich / far right to be the way you are. Look beyond the scare tactics; start getting to the truth. You represent some of the very worst things about capitalism and U.S. citizens in general, an ignorant greed. It's not a pretty picture.
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    May 11, 2010 3:02 PM GMT
    Whenever someone decides to do the right thing, something more generous than looking-out-for me, someone will say it will cost too much, now's not the right time, etc. The oldest excuses in the world for doing nothing, and the oldest excuses in the world for blocking everything from health care to equal rights.

    Someone tried it at a board meeting I was at a few weeks ago. We were considering full benefits for domestic partners, and someone mentioned that it would cost us, and that it needed to be looked into and discussed later. I mentioned that we had a stated policy of equality, and that if we waffled on this one, I would leave. The chair backed me, as did the rest of the board.

    Is equality and care-taking something you can put a dollar value on? Are married couples worth so much, and domestic partners just that much less? Are young people less worth helping?

    I guess you make that clear.