ROTC Student to pay back tuition after coming out

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    May 14, 2010 4:37 PM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/14/sara-isaacson-rotc-cadet_n_576401.html


    What's worse? Gays in the military or knuckle-draggers with guns?
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    May 14, 2010 7:43 PM GMT
    FUCK THAT! If I were her I would REFUSE to pay. There's no way she should even THINK that she has to PAY the military to discriminate against her.
  • gibbay

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    May 15, 2010 12:07 AM GMT
    I think it needs a lot more information about what actually happened, I know it takes longer for some people to reconcile their gay/bi-ness than others, but this is either a case of very bad timing, or very bad planning... I really don't agree with the whole DADT aspect of the American Military, why should she be put in a situation where she has to write a letter telling her CO that she's a lesbian?
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    May 15, 2010 12:12 AM GMT
    Don't Ask Don't Tell.
    The army have all the rights to make you pay back all the money if you are discharged dishonorably - which is considered the case with the gay chapter. It's probably in that recruitment contract somewhere that she signed once upon a time.
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    May 18, 2010 9:11 AM GMT
    AsianInvasion saidDon't Ask Don't Tell.
    The army have all the rights to make you pay back all the money if you are discharged dishonorably - which is considered the case with the gay chapter. It's probably in that recruitment contract somewhere that she signed once upon a time.


    Fuck that. The army has no rights to discriminate. The law does not mean honor.
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    May 18, 2010 9:48 AM GMT
    when you accept an ROTC scholarship you are automatically making a military commitment before swearing an oath of office. And in here ROTC seminars they will have told them the terms of the scholarship or term on which it could be forfeited.

    It sucks but that's the choice she made
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    May 18, 2010 10:40 AM GMT
    AsianInvasion saidDon't Ask Don't Tell.
    The army have all the rights to make you pay back all the money if you are discharged dishonorably - which is considered the case with the gay chapter. It's probably in that recruitment contract somewhere that she signed once upon a time.


    First, if you are discharged under DADT you are NOT given a dishonorable discharge, you are given an honorable discharge. Chances are in this case its going to be an administrative separation. Legally the Army has every right to request repayment. She signed a contract and was paid by the Army. She was in violation of her end of the contract. Just because her battalion recommended recoupment does not mean that the Army will ask for the money back. It has to go to a board and have a General make that final decision.

    I'm not saying DADT is right, but they are just following a law that Congress and a democratic controlled Congress passed.
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    May 18, 2010 12:36 PM GMT
    Wonderful, brave girl. Retarded, backwards government policy.

    How does having people with such courage and integrity hurt the US military?

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    May 18, 2010 1:57 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidMaybe her story will help pioneer some advancements in the DADT policy for lesbians and gays.
    Seems to me that's what her whole point is. At least I hope that's what it is.
    If not, I can't understand why she'd want to willingly terminate her training by announcing her sexuality via official letter.