Thinking of working out twice a day

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    May 16, 2010 4:57 AM GMT
    But is it too much?

    I'm not satisfied with once a day. Even though a workout is usually about an hour, and I do my exercises until exhaustion, I'm not tired or satisfied during the rest of my day. The only time I see results is when I start doing a new exercise that targets an undeveloped muscle. I also have trouble with food, so I've been trying to eat more lately, but I just feel fatter. I've gained some size since being a skinny kid and a runner, but I've never managed to trip the switch that would allow me to build muscle AND shred fat. I basically always look the same no matter my fitness level. icon_neutral.gif

    So would working out *more* help?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    May 16, 2010 7:10 AM GMT
    kandsk saidBut is it too much?

    I'm not satisfied with once a day. Even though a workout is usually about an hour, and I do my exercises until exhaustion, I'm not tired or satisfied during the rest of my day. The only time I see results is when I start doing a new exercise that targets an undeveloped muscle. I also have trouble with food, so I've been trying to eat more lately, but I just feel fatter. I've gained some size since being a skinny kid and a runner, but I've never managed to trip the switch that would allow me to build muscle AND shred fat. I basically always look the same no matter my fitness level. icon_neutral.gif

    So would working out *more* help?


    Working out more will almost certainly not help. There is no need for twice a day unless you are (1) working towards an endurance event or (2) can only work out for 30 mins or less at a time for some bizarre reason (3) decide to split weights and cardio. Otherwise, especially if you want to get bigger, you need to train better, not more. You also need to get your diet and rest sorted as a high priority. If you want to give more specific info on what you are doing now we might be able to help.-
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    May 16, 2010 8:01 AM GMT
    I don't do short workouts or split cardio, although I was thinking by working out twice a day that I would go to the gym in the morning and swim in the evening. Otherwise, I usually alternate gym and pool days, an hour with each.

    I'm not necessarily looking to get bigger, just look better. Trainers have told me in person that with my age and body, a tailored workout isn't necessary -- that just going to the gym will do it -- and they told me to eat a lot. I do a full body workout using just about all machines available... sometimes add some free weights. I do 8-12 reps and quit on each exercise when I can only do 5 reps, which usually takes 3-4 sets. I do pull-ups and chin-ups on my bar at home.

    At the pool, I swim 500-700m. Going to the pool makes a big impact on my mood, so I'm not willing to give it up.

    My diet lacks. All I can say is that I eat a breakfast of 3 eggs and a bagel with peanut butter, but after that, it's too irregular to comment on. I do drink a weight gainer shake after a gym workout, and have recently been eating fast food for cheap calories.

    Regarding rest, I don't sleep well (6-7 hours and wake up frequently), which is another reason I wanted to workout more.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    May 20, 2010 6:01 AM GMT
    Sort out eating as your priority. Until it´s nearer optimal you won´t get results.

    Get more rest. You grow when you are resting. If you don´t sort this out your results will be less.

    3-4 sessions lifting a week should be enough. Either alternate days or do lift lift swim. Don´t do cardio as such on your lifting days (super set and circuits are good though).

    Progress from primarily machines to a mix of free weights, body weight and a bit of supplementation from machines.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    May 20, 2010 6:18 AM GMT
    Working out that much will be counterproductive, guaranteed, unless supported by a tremendous diet and recovery program.

    The fact that you are working out til exhaustion already is probably counterproductive, which is probably why you're not seeing the results you want in size gains. Leading to frustration.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    May 20, 2010 2:51 PM GMT
    Yeah, you're overtraining. I know it doesn't feel like it. But it's very common. The problem is that to promote growth, you should almost certainly take a break. At least take a couple days off from the weights, bro. Then see how you feel. And your body can't rebuild fully with too little sleep (OR too little food) so you're probably not seeing gains in the amount of weight you can hoist.

    Also, your goals are nebulous. "Not necessarily looking to get bigger". Ok. So what is your goal? "Just look better". Better how? What's "better" to you? Do you want to gain some muscle? You look slim in your pics. That could be your ideal body. But without a real goal, it's hard to offer you any advice.

    You do a full body workout when you lift with 3/4 sets of each exercise? I would change that, and focus on certain muscle groups so you can more effectively target them. Swimming is SO good for you. I don't see a problem with that, in and of itself. But to be honest, it doesn't sound like you're going to make gains from changing your workouts. Your body isn't getting enough 1) FUEL and 2) REST, and you want to fix it by working out more frequently? Hopefully you see how little sense that makes.

    The cool thing is, eating more is about the easiest "fix" I can think of. And sleeping more. Shit, I wish I had your problems. You'll be fine. Work smarter, not harder.