Elite gymnastics competitions

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    May 16, 2010 3:53 PM GMT
    Do any of you follow meets going on in elite gymnastics? I pretty much follow everything from the national and international level. I stay up to speed with all significant events. The Stars of the World competition just recently took place in Moscow, Russia.
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    May 16, 2010 4:17 PM GMT
    To those who are interested, the Stars of the World Category-A World Cup competition took place in Moscow, Russia May 14-15. It was an event finals-only competition. Here are the top 3 results from each final.

    Women's Vault:
    1. Hong Un Jong - North Korea - 14.625
    2. Oksana Chusovitina - Germany - 14.462
    3. Tatyana Nabiyeva - Russia - 14.312

    Women's Uneven Bars:
    1. Tatyana Nabiyeva - Russia - 15.300
    2. Cha Yong Hwa - North Korea - 14.475
    3. Jessica Lopez - Venezuela - 13.800

    Women's Balance Beam:
    1. Luiza Galiulina - Uzbekistan - 13.750
    2. Kim Un Hyang - North Korea - 13.575
    3. Kseniya Afanasyeva - Russia - 13.500
    3. Oksana Chusovitina - Germany - 13.500

    Women's Floor Exercise:
    1. Yekaterina Kurbatova - Russia - 14.075
    2. Ramilya Musina - Russia - 13.825
    3. Mayra Kroonen - Netherlands - 13.600


    Men's Floor Exercise:
    1. Diego Hypolito - Brazil - 15.500
    2. Anton Golotsutskov - Russia - 15.475
    3. Jeffrey Wammes - Netherlands - 15.225

    Men's Pommel Horse:
    1. Saso Bertoncelj - Slovenia - 15.275
    2. Alex Naddour - United States - 15.075
    3. Andrey Perevoznikov - Russia - 14.925

    Men's Still Rings:
    1. Alexander Balandin - Russia - 15.700
    2. Konstantin Pluzhnikov - Russia -15.300
    3. Ali Al-Asi - Jordan - 15.275

    Men's Vault:
    1. Anton Golotsutskov - Russia - 16.337
    2. Diego Hypolito - Brazil - 16.025
    3. Ri Se Gwang - North Korea - 15.950

    Men's Parallel Bars:
    1. Jin Hyok Kim - North Korea - 15.500
    2. Anton Fokin - Uzbekistan - 15.250
    3. Tim McNeill - United States - 15.150

    Men's High Bar:
    1. Aljaz Pegan - Slovenia - 15.500
    2. Nikolay Kuksenkov - Ukraine - 15.375
    3. Paul Ruggeri - United States - 15.075
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    May 16, 2010 10:13 PM GMT
    Some videos from the competition. I'll post what I can periodically icon_smile.gif

    Paul Ruggeri, III - USA - HB



    Aljaz Pegan - SLO - HB



    Diego Hypolito - BRA - FX



    Yekaterina Kurbatova - RUS - FX



    More on the way...
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    May 16, 2010 10:25 PM GMT
    Who is your all time fav 3 women gymnasts OP?
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    May 16, 2010 10:26 PM GMT
    Aggieboy saidWho is your all time fav 3 women gymnasts OP?


    Of all time? Wow, that's tough for me to decide. I would have an easier time telling you my favorite gymnasts from each decade or each Olympic cycle.
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    May 16, 2010 10:31 PM GMT
    All right, I gave it some thought. Although I wouldn't be surprised if I change my mind right after posting this.

    My 3 favorite female gymnasts are: Yelena Produnova, Daniela Silivas, and Anna Pavlova.

    Honorable mentions: Simona Amanar, Shannon Miller, and Tatyana Lysenko.
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    May 16, 2010 11:42 PM GMT
    pocketnico saidAll right, I gave it some thought. Although I wouldn't be surprised if I change my mind right after posting this.

    My 3 favorite female gymnasts are: Yelena Produnova, Daniela Silivas, and Anna Pavlova.

    Honorable mentions: Simona Amanar, Shannon Miller, and Tatyana Lysenko.


    Funny, those gymnasts were not "the best" during their times except for maybe shannon miller. I loved produnova's attitude and fierceness. I always felt pavlova didnt get much credit. And I don't remember Simona Amanar every falling or messing up during any competition, she was prob the most consistent gymnast in the 90s.

    I was really obsessed with Yang Yun, Yelena Zamolodchikova, Gina Gogean, Yekaterina Lobazniuk, and Mo Huilan
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    May 16, 2010 11:48 PM GMT
    I loved Produnova's power and innovation. She did a lot of unique skills and combinations on every event. Not to mention she did the hardest vault ever by a female gymnast!

    Simona Amanar was very reliable. She was also a good example of what hard work can do. I remember the Romanian coaches thought she wasn't very talented when she first joined the national team. But she had the best work ethic of the entire team and really made something of herself.

    I'm happy to see Zamolodchikova as a judge now. For one thing she looks HOT as a judge! Wow, she sure has become quite glamorous over the past couple of years!

    I, too, was a fan of Lobaznyuk. It saddens me every time I watch that video of her vaulting and injuring herself so badly that she had to retire. Her career ended too soon.

    I would say Pavlova has my favorite style out of the current gymnasts. I admire her for sticking around a long time and still competing after her ACL tear a year and a half ago. I just wish she could've lived up to her potential. She's always come up a little bit short.
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    May 16, 2010 11:55 PM GMT
    I still follow elite gymnastics, although not nearly as much as I did back in the 90s and the Sydney Olympics when I was still training and competing ... not at the elite level, but I digress.

    My favorite event was pommel horse, so I love watching the college and elite routines. Floor exercise is still impressive, but I am amazed by some of the skills that are now thrown on high bar. The thing that I love about men's gymnastics (gymnastics in general too) is that every event has something unique that catches your eye and makes you go ... DAMN! Amazing sport and I wish that I could still train and be involved with the sport.
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    May 16, 2010 11:59 PM GMT
    chemguy79 saidI still follow elite gymnastics, although not nearly as much as I did back in the 90s and the Sydney Olympics when I was still training and competing ... not at the elite level, but I digress.

    My favorite event was pommel horse, so I love watching the college and elite routines. Floor exercise is still impressive, but I am amazed by some of the skills that are now thrown on high bar. The thing that I love about men's gymnastics (gymnastics in general too) is that every event has something unique that catches your eye and makes you go ... DAMN! Amazing sport and I wish that I could still train and be involved with the sport.


    Wow, I must congratulate you for loving pommel horse because I hated pommels with a passion. I always thought men's gymnastics would be commercially more popular without pommel horse because it's just so BORING compared to the other 5 events haha.

    But watching guys like Sasha Artemev, Xiao Qin, and Zhang Hongtao makes me hate pommels just a little bit less because they make the skills look beautiful.

    I actually don't like watching men's floor anymore. It looks so tiring because of what the guys have to do now in order to get a high difficulty score. Guys are doing 5-7 tumbling passes these days with little to no transition skills in between passes! It's really hard to accomplish all that in 70 seconds. Almost every guy looks utterly exhausted after a floor routine.
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    May 17, 2010 12:20 AM GMT
    It's funny; I loved training pommel horse and working on the mushroom because I was tall, lanky and I was able to use my height well. I hated rings with a passion, but I love watching it on TV. Sasha Artemev looks great on the horse; However, he's wildly inconsistent on the event.

    I used to love men's floor because of the obligatory strength move, the scale in the corner, and the neat transition moves to get into the corner. I actually used two "dance" moves in order to get 2 B's in my floor routine. Me = Code Whore.

    I like the fact that the COP rewards twisting elements more than previous COP's. I also like the combination tumbling, although some passes seem compulsory. I still miss the 10.0, although I can understand why the FIG changed their system. *shrug*
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    May 17, 2010 12:24 AM GMT
    chemguy79 saidIt's funny; I loved training pommel horse and working on the mushroom because I was tall, lanky and I was able to use my height well. I hated rings with a passion, but I love watching it on TV. Sasha Artemev looks great on the horse; However, he's wildly inconsistent on the event.

    I used to love men's floor because of the obligatory strength move, the scale in the corner, and the neat transition moves to get into the corner. I actually used two "dance" moves in order to get 2 B's in my floor routine. Me = Code Whore.

    I like the fact that the COP rewards twisting elements more than previous COP's. I also like the combination tumbling, although some passes seem compulsory. I still miss the 10.0, although I can understand why the FIG changed their system. *shrug*


    I know, it's frustrating to watch Sasha Artemev sometimes because you just never knew when he was going to hit. At the Olympics he was amazing in the qualification and team final but blew it in the pommel horse final. Nevertheless, I'm still so happy he hit his routine during the team final so the US could get the bronze over Germany!

    There are a lot of different reasons why the scoring system changed. But most of it had to do with MEN'S gymnastics, particularly the scoring controversies from several finals in 2004. The current system seems to work for the men but not for the women.
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    May 17, 2010 12:28 AM GMT


    I actually don't like watching men's floor anymore. It looks so tiring because of what the guys have to do now in order to get a high difficulty score. Guys are doing 5-7 tumbling passes these days with little to no transition skills in between passes! It's really hard to accomplish all that in 70 seconds. Almost every guy looks utterly exhausted after a floor routine. [/quote]
    Floor was my event, i'm surprised how much i'v retained considering how i only get a chance to do it on occation...
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    May 17, 2010 12:29 AM GMT
    jgymnast733 said

    I actually don't like watching men's floor anymore. It looks so tiring because of what the guys have to do now in order to get a high difficulty score. Guys are doing 5-7 tumbling passes these days with little to no transition skills in between passes! It's really hard to accomplish all that in 70 seconds. Almost every guy looks utterly exhausted after a floor routine.

    Floor was my event, i'm surprised how much i'v retained considering how i only get a chance to do it on occation... [/quote]

    Floor was my event, too. Although I had already retired by the time the scoring system changed, so I managed to escape from the current madness haha.
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    May 17, 2010 3:07 AM GMT
    I cant imagine how taxing it must be these days, but i do love the new scoring system and what it takes to get a good score...I was the kind of gymnast that would do whatever it takes to shine..Apparently nothing has changed..icon_lol.gif
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    May 17, 2010 3:13 AM GMT
    There are pros and cons to the new scoring system. Supporters say that the new system is more objective since now skills are all quantifiable. Not to mention it allows gymnasts to go above and beyond the minimum since in the past it was possible to score high with "safe" routines.

    On the other hand, opponents say there's too much emphasis on difficulty that gymnasts are chucking a lot of skills they really haven't mastered. Not to mention a lot of them are doing skills with poor execution and technique, which is starting to result in more injuries.

    Then there's the whole audience/viewer perspective where it's hard for spectators to understand what each score means. It was easy in the past for people to know that a 9.825 was better than 9.437 because 9.825 was closer to 10.0. Now people can't help but wonder: what's the difference between a 14.700 and a 16.550?
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    May 17, 2010 3:53 AM GMT
    I'm unhappy with the state of womans BEAM and FLOOR, i mean, what ever happened to the grace element and dance...I scored well because i had some really creative dance elements on floor and back then if a guy had a shurg of dance in his routine it was innovative and new...
    I cant believe how females screw up that triple turn/piroettes on floor, THATS EASYicon_exclaim.gif
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    May 17, 2010 3:58 AM GMT
    If a triple turn were easy, it would be an A skill, but it's a C. It's a tricky skill. Yes, it's pretty hard for some gymnasts, but others are pretty successful at doing turns.
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    May 17, 2010 4:32 PM GMT
    This guy's vaults are just unbelievable. The two hardest vaults in the world right now!

    VT 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku3H-aOaAa4

    VT 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkkQodMQ1_A

    (Sorry, the owner of these videos doesn't allow embedding)
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    May 17, 2010 11:12 PM GMT
    pocketnico saidIf a triple turn were easy, it would be an A skill, but it's a C. It's a tricky skill. Yes, it's pretty hard for some gymnasts, but others are pretty successful at doing turns.

    Well in that case, Somebody get me a leotardicon_eek.gif
    cant imagine trying to tuck the candy away in one of those things, maybe i'll take a pic and post it of my trying..lol.....icon_wink.gif