Survivor Finale- Heros vs Villians

  • Nilo14

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    May 18, 2010 10:08 PM GMT
    Survivor is one of my favorite shows, with its 20th season finished and a surprising winner, it only builds my anticipation for the next season to start. I was just wondering what other peoples thoughts were of season 20 as a whole, and how much longer do people think Survivor will last on television?
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    May 19, 2010 12:31 AM GMT
    While I had watched one or two episodes of earlier seasons, I didn't watch an entire season until Palau(season 10). I couldn't turn away from Ulong being defeated in every Immunity challenge. By the time it came to the merge, I was hooked.

    This season was fun. I really hate Russell, and wasn't at all happy to see him again. When Boston Rob got eliminated I was thinking I was done with the season, as I didn't have anyone else to root for. But that sassy Sandra caught my eye and I stuck with the season. I was quite pleased that Sandra won, though I'll admit that Parvati played a better game.

    I think the longevity of the show depends on how long Jeff Probst sticks around. My understanding is that he's only signing one year contracts at a time. If Jeff leaves, I don't think the show will last much longer.
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    May 19, 2010 2:27 AM GMT
    I would have voted for Parvati, hands down. Cunning, charming and athletic.

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  • coolarmydude

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    May 19, 2010 3:36 AM GMT
    I knew Sandra was going to win as soon as Jerri got voted out. Russell would have won if Parvartti would have been voted out instead.
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    May 19, 2010 4:07 AM GMT
    Didn't expect Sandra to win. I would have voted Parvati as well. Def not Russel. I didn't like him in the other season either. I kinda liked Amanda too. Oh and the last immunity challenge was great!
  • Nilo14

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    May 19, 2010 4:23 AM GMT
    I really like Parvati too, and hated Russel. I was content with Sandra winning because I starting liking her once the merge came around as well. Though Parvati did play the better game. Russel and his pride keep getting him in trouble, he is an idiot for not learning from his previous mistakes in season 19.

    I never knew Jeff signed one year contracts that's interesting, I hope he stays for a really long time because this show I cant get enough of!!
  • hartfan

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    May 19, 2010 5:57 AM GMT
    If I were on the jury, I would have voted for Parvati, but I'm not on the jury, and like Tom Westman said, I think whoever wins deserves to win that season. That said, I'm still glad Sandra won. There is something to be said for her "anyone but me" strategy. It might not seem like much, just going with the flow and staying out of the spotlight, but you have to play with the cards you're dealt. It definitely worked for her especially in a season of huge egos and personalities. Besides, you can't argue with success. Twice.

    Parvati, however, might just be one of the best Survivors ever. 114 days playing the game--that is mind-boggling. She has truly turned into one of the game's bona fide triple threat--socially, strategically and physically.

    As much as I don't agree with Russell's way of playing the game, I understand that this is a game and you play as hard as you can. He is a brilliant strategist, but his way of playing is fundamentally flawed, because he forgets that the people you vote out are the ones who will be deciding who gets the million. If he does not treat the jury with respect, as he has admitted he does not, there is no way any jury, bitter or not, will ever award him the million. The social aspect is a crucial part of this game that Russell just does not get, and perhaps never will. It was great to see Sandra burn his hat--karmic comeback for his burning of Jaison's socks a season ago.

    I've always thought Jerri caught unnecessary flack ever since All-Stars, and I'm glad she really redeemed herself this time. Colby, on the other hand, was a huge disappointment. Though he's admitted that he sandbagged some of the challenges to appear less of a threat, it's still disappointing to see him play like he has checked out of the game. Ironically, the reason why he's in the top 5 is because he isn't viewed as a threat, until when the jury full of Heroes is concerned.

    There is no doubt that Russell has made the last couple seasons interesting. But I find myself getting tired of the editors giving us the Russell show where he constantly brags about how good he is when there is a glaring hole in his game. I wonder if the rumors about him coming back for a third season is true, and I wonder how much he might have changed (my guess: not much) and how long the new group of contestants who have finally seen how he plays will let him stick around.

    I believe Heroes vs. Villains definitely ranks among one of the best seasons of Survivor, up there with the first season and Micronesia.

  • cityguy39

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    May 19, 2010 12:07 PM GMT
    I love Survivor, I have been watching from day 1, but I have to ask weren't any of the other people willing take Russell out when the opportunity was there??? Sandra deserved to win if only for the fact that she alone at least brought the idea up. I also have to say JT was an idiot for giving Russell an idol, probably the dumbest move in Survivor history.
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    May 19, 2010 12:54 PM GMT
    Besides the first Survivor, this season was the best. Every episode contained twists and excitement.

    I find Russell to be very entertaining. He somehow always manages to get on top (except for the jury.) That said, I think Parvati played a better game. Russell's major flaw is that he ignores one crucial aspect of Survivor. He does not treat the jury with respect. The jury cannot look back and respect your game if you are calling them weak and pathetic the whole time.

    The only thing that could have made this season better was Big Tom from Africa and All-Stars.
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    May 19, 2010 1:00 PM GMT
    Been a fan since season 1. Agree that this was one of the most entertaining seasons. Loved that Sandra won, if only because it caused Russell to nearly have a stroke at the reunion. Parvati is a fantastic player and probably deserved to win, if only for the way she can manipulate everyone else (Russell included). But Sandra is probably the most entertaining player and have no issue with her winning, as she probably needs the money (well, maybe not twice) more than anyone else.

    Great season, and hope that the next season lives up to this one.
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    May 19, 2010 3:26 PM GMT
    I definitely thought that this was one of the best seasons. I was so mad when Jerri got voted off. She was by far my favorite. Out of the final three though, I was happy that Sandra one. Not a big fan of Russel at all!
  • hartfan

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    May 20, 2010 6:32 PM GMT
    cityguy39 saidI have to ask weren't any of the other people willing take Russell out when the opportunity was there??? I also have to say JT was an idiot for giving Russell an idol, probably the dumbest move in Survivor history.


    The one time Russell might have been taken out was when he targeted Danielle, but he had immunity that time. Danielle, Parvati and Sandra were planning to take him out next after getting rid of Rupert, but unfortunately Danielle self-destructed at tribal council and Russell was able to turn Jerri against her. After that, no one really wanted to get rid of Russell because all of them (except Russell himself) realized that he's so universally despised that he's gold to take to the finals. Ironically, Russell thought the same of Sandra, to his detriment, not that he would have won against anyone else.

    JT's move was actually voted dumbest ever Survivor move, though I still think that belongs to ice cream scooper Erik from the Micronesia season, who gave up his immunity necklace at final five only to be voted out immediately.

    I do wonder, with the near unanimous hatred toward Russell that I've seen in this forum and others, who actually voted for him to be Player of the Season?
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    May 20, 2010 6:48 PM GMT
    I've been a fan since day one and have applied a couple of times. This show isn't going anywhere because it is still a ratings juggernaut and its fans are die hard and loyal. This is what matters to a television network and advertisers more than anything. Besides I heard they have the locations pretty much set through season 24.

    I think this was the best Survivor to date. Jeff said they would never do another All Star season, but since the introduction of the hidden immunity idol a whole new breed of player has emerged changing the political and social structure of the game and making the players much more savvy and cutthroat. Even Jerri admitted she looked like Mother Teresa compared to the rest of the villains out there. I found it fascinating to watch the pre-hidden immunity idol season players (Colby, Jerri, Tom, Sandra, Rupert) deal with the hidden immunity aspect of the game which they had never had to deal with before. I found it equally intriguing that one of these players was the eventual winner.

    I love to watch Russell, and I love to hate Russell. What will we do without him? It was poetic justice when Sandra burned his hat in the last episode considering that the very first episode of the prior season started with Russell burning his teammates socks while they slept. Karma came full circle and kudos to the editors for picking up on that.

    Every political junkie should watch this show. It is politics at its most root form. One man/woman, one vote. You only gotta win a majority of 'em and you have a captive group to manipulate.