US allies say integrating GAYS in military was a NONISSUE

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    May 20, 2010 3:33 AM GMT
    Great article.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/19/us.allies.military.gays/index.html?hpt=C2
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    May 20, 2010 4:21 AM GMT
    yeah, but Obama is too busy trying to fix the whole immigration crap, while gay soldiers get the boot if they revealed to be one. Isnt that nice? men & women sacrificing their lifes are getting kicked out, while Obama is trying to give illegals citizenship, welfare, etc...
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    May 20, 2010 4:33 AM GMT
    yeh =/
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    May 20, 2010 4:45 AM GMT
    IsmeIvan1990 saidyeah, but Obama is too busy trying to fix the whole immigration crap, while gay soldiers get the boot if they revealed to be one. Isnt that nice? men & women sacrificing their lifes are getting kicked out, while Obama is trying to give illegals citizenship, welfare, etc...

    hahhahah good point
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    May 20, 2010 4:58 AM GMT
    IsmeIvan1990 saidyeah, but Obama is too busy trying to fix the whole immigration crap, while gay soldiers get the boot if they revealed to be one. Isnt that nice? men & women sacrificing their lifes are getting kicked out, while Obama is trying to give illegals citizenship, welfare, etc...

    Preach, Brother!
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    May 20, 2010 5:52 AM GMT
    Well of course it was a non-issue. Later, we reveal exclusive details which show that the Pope may be catholic. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 20, 2010 10:58 AM GMT
    IsmeIvan1990 saidyeah, but Obama is too busy trying to fix the whole immigration crap, while gay soldiers get the boot if they revealed to be one. Isnt that nice? men & women sacrificing their lifes are getting kicked out, while Obama is trying to give illegals citizenship, welfare, etc...


    pfffttt. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 20, 2010 12:21 PM GMT
    1) Obama could effectively end DADT with a stroke of his pen. His predecessor, W (a.k.a. The Idiot) spent a great deal of energy having his staff expound on the theory of 'The Unitary Presidency', which essentially says that, during war time, a sitting president has unfettered ability to direct unilaterally anything having to do with the conduct of war. The Idiot & Co used this doctrine to justify torture. Obama has done nothing to challenge the concept of The Unitary Presidency and could, if he chose to, use it to override DADT for the duration of the 'wars'.


    2) Whilst I believe that neutralizing (or better yet repealing DADT) would prove to be an operational non issue for our frontline servicemen and women, our military is burdened with an evangelical element in its upper ranks that our european allies have not faced. All of our armed forces are under the sway of evangelical christians, but none more than the Air Force.
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    May 20, 2010 3:36 PM GMT
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    IsmeIvan1990 saidyeah, but Obama is too busy trying to fix the whole immigration crap, while gay soldiers get the boot if they revealed to be one. Isnt that nice? men & women sacrificing their lifes are getting kicked out, while Obama is trying to give illegals citizenship, welfare, etc...


    pfffttt. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Pffft exactly. American welfare is by far the worst and lowest-paying social security system amongst all developed nations, so I really don't understand why Americans always make such a point out of it.

    Your welfare is a penny tray compared to the defense budget. It costs the govt very very little compared to many other things like, say, bank bailouts and wars in far flung places.

    Yes, DADT should be repealed, and yes it's an operational non-issue, BUT the immigration reform is very necessary for the economy. And this goes way further than legalising the illegal immigrants. The only thing that will change is that theyll start paying taxes.

    It's the system that attempts to regulate the immigration of smart, professional, western people that really needs an overhaul - cause the economy can't go without them.

    So, what did we learn? Yes, that's right. Fundementalist Christians have a lot of influence on US policy, except when it's about money. Cause Money supercedes Christ. Which is fair, cause money is real and christ is not.
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    May 20, 2010 4:00 PM GMT
    I see no problem with illegal immigrants as long as they aren't causing trouble. My tax dollars never seem to go to anything that I want anyway so it doesn't hurt my feelings if some of it goes to a family tryin to find a safe home in a country that is run over by the drug cartel. I'm a spiritual guy, the bible isnt a book for me to smack people around with but is just a handbook on how you're suppose to go about your life. If I'm sinning by loving another guy then so be it. how is a gay guy threatening to a bunch of macho guys that don't want to sleep with others? because we're taught not to be gay and if you are then it's wrong and when you actually talk to someone that is and get to know them OH wait they're just as human as everyone else. I really wish people would start thinking for themselves and I don't mean thinking as in what preacher, grandpa, or the president says.
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    May 21, 2010 3:57 AM GMT
    "You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else.”
    -Winston Churchill
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    May 21, 2010 5:26 AM GMT
    I've never understood the whole concept of fighting and dying for a regime that openly oppresses you? If they repeal DADT fine great but they wont its an impossibility. Solution don't join the military?! duh icon_rolleyes.gif