WARNING: THE ARTICLE IS OK TO READ, BUT IF YOU CLICK THE LINK TO THE VIDEO BE READY TO SEE AND HEAR THE MISTREATMENT OF COWS AT A SLAUGHTER YARD The Humane Society of the United States released a video Wednesday it says shows mistreatment of "downed" cows at a California slaughterhouse -- and one lawmaker said it raises questions about the safety of the nation's food supply.

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    Jan 31, 2008 2:03 PM GMT
    Story Highlights:

    Hidden-camera video shows workers shocking, kicking, jabbing weakened cows

    Such cows are more easily contaminated, may carry diseases harmful to consumers

    Society president calls on Congress to act to protect food supply

    Packer sells beef to company that supplies National School Lunch Program

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/30/undercover.slaughter.video/index.html#cnnSTCVideo
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    Jan 31, 2008 4:06 PM GMT
    OMG! Hippie4lyfe is actually an alien symbiant, and he's taken up residence in Caslon!
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    Jan 31, 2008 4:16 PM GMT
    Nah Paradox, Hippie hasn't given warnings, but Caslon has rallied that it be provided. LOL
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    Jan 31, 2008 4:17 PM GMT
    I firmly believe that happy beef is healthy beef.
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    Jan 31, 2008 4:20 PM GMT
    This is total cut and paste from something I said in another thread, but it pertains:
    There's a movie Fast-food Nation that I saw on tv a few month's back. This isn't the documentary but a fictional story that I think was adapted from the documentary. Although the story and the characters weren't real, the issues they face are. Pretty eye-opening stuff. You will never want to eat fast food again (or at least for a little while).
    If you do eat fast food you definitely should see the film, there's a lot of sick shit in that food people should know about if they are gonna eat it.
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    Jan 31, 2008 4:22 PM GMT
    I just heard the reports this morning and all of the beef is now banned from Oregon schools. I hope the FDA will shut the plant down!

    You are what you eat....
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    Jan 31, 2008 4:25 PM GMT
    kinetic saidThis is total cut and paste from something I said in another thread, but it pertains:
    There's a movie Fast-food Nation that I saw on tv a few month's back. This isn't the documentary but a fictional story that I think was adapted from the documentary. Although the story and the characters weren't real, the issues they face are. Pretty eye-opening stuff. You will never want to eat fast food again (or at least for a little while).
    If you do eat fast food you definitely should see the film, there's a lot of sick shit in that food people should know about if they are gonna eat it.


    The book is even better than the movie - after reading it I won't eat fast food.
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    Jan 31, 2008 4:39 PM GMT

    So much for those California Cow commercials. I don't understand abuse of this nature. I'm not naive enough to think that slaugther houses do not kill lame cows though. Still, I don't understand why a bullet to the head can't suffice, why let it suffer?

    I think it goes beyond protocall. I think maybe some people are just sick and get off torturing animals. Either that or the workers featured in this video are just following orders handed done by some suit somewhere who'd never been to a slaughter house so has no idea the effect a forklift has on a cow's body. Personally, that moment in the film made me cringe.
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    Jan 31, 2008 4:49 PM GMT
    Do you guys really think that this place is the only one that mistreats animals??? They were just stupid enough to get caught, after all they are still going to die either happy or mad.

    Ill still eat the meat icon_biggrin.gif and I dont eat fast food.

    MOOooo!!!
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    Jan 31, 2008 4:51 PM GMT
    Nobody said this is the only facility that mistreats animals. Calm down.

    Shedding light on this facilty is a good start. The word is out and people will be watching practices like this all over the country, and hopefully buying accordingly.
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    Jan 31, 2008 5:02 PM GMT
    XRuggerATX saidNobody said this is the only facility that mistreats animals. Calm down.

    Shedding light on this facilty is a good start. The word is out and people will be watching practices like this all over the country, and hopefully buying accordingly.


    Im pretty calm, Please dont take this as im upset cause im not icon_lol.gif. What I dont understand is, that it took the Media for some to realize how these establishments work. I personally dont think that using the forklift is a good thing, I was pretty disturbed as well yesterday when I was watching the news. I even told my parnter. Watch someone start a Topic on this and yet it happened.

    I been to these places before and Its sad to see an animal die the way they do and its happening right now. Trust me, a bullet wont kill them this easy. You should hear them, its not pretty at all, but heck, I still eat meat.

    I really think that watching an animal or a human being die, is very disturbing.

    Part of the circle of life you live and you die.

    lets keep the peace, shall we? icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 31, 2008 5:14 PM GMT
    This is the email that I just sent to the contact person for the producers of the beef I eat.
    Grateful Harvest


    Dear Ms. Studwell,

    An article on CNN.com this morning has prompted a discussion on a fitness/health site that I belong to. I eat Grateful Harvest Grass-Fed Organic beef. I presume that since such good care is taken to raise the cows that they are also humanely treated when it comes slaughter time. But in order to state this definitely on the site, I thought I would check first. How are Grateful Harvest cows slaughtered?


    Video of workers abusing cows raises food safety questions
    Story Highlights:
    Hidden-camera video shows workers shocking, kicking, jabbing weakened cows

    Such cows are more easily contaminated, may carry diseases harmful to consumers

    Society president calls on Congress to act to protect food supply

    Packer sells beef to company that supplies National School Lunch Program
    "The video shows Hallmark Meat Packing Co. workers administering repeated electric shocks to downed cows -- animals that are too sick, weak or otherwise unable to stand on their own. Workers are seen kicking cows, jabbing them near their eyes, ramming them with a forklift and shooting high-intensity water up their noses in an effort to force them to their feet for slaughter. "



    The article is ok to read, but if you click the link to the video, be warned, the sights and sounds of the poor cows is distressing, to say the least!


    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/30/undercover.slaughter.video/index.html

    Regards,

    David _____
    Alexandria, VA.
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    Jan 31, 2008 5:50 PM GMT
    Guess happy cows no longer come from CA, the only happy place in CA is Disneyland.

    The workers should pry and poke each other and I'll video tape that one.
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    Jan 31, 2008 5:51 PM GMT
    This is just one farm in just thousands of farms in north america that has been brought to every ones attention. My Step-Father is a cow farmer and doess nothing that is seen in this video. I am not condoning what is in this video, which i think is very demeaning to animals, I am just saying all farmers are not the same.
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    ritchard saidThis is just one farm in just thousands of farms in north america that has been brought to every ones attention. My Step-Father is a cow farmer and doess nothing that is seen in this video. I am not condoning what is in this video, which i think is very demeaning to animals, I am just saying all farmers are not the same.


    I appreciate your personal experience as it relates to your father and what is probably a family farm. A lot of cows aren't that "lucky"Some Holstein cows produce extremely large amounts of milk--more than 100 lb/day [over 18 tons a year]. They are milk producers for 10 months then kept dry for 2 months. At the end of the 2 months, they give birth so that they make milk again. Thus, in Holsteins and other high-milk-producing cows, great stress is placed on udder ligaments, which can break down and no longer support the udder. If an udder breaks down, it is more susceptible to injury and disease, often necessitating culling [i.e., killing] the cow..
    The average productive life of a dairy cow is short (approximately 3 - 4 years) free range is 15-20.. Many cows are culled primarily because of reproductive failure, low milk yield, udder breakdown, feet and leg weaknesses, and mastitis.

    As a result of their lifestyle, a lot of these cows have a hard time walking to their own slaughter. Usually they are pulled from the trucks by chain, this isn't rare. They aren't killed on location usually, so you can see how this could be a problem. Same with veil calves who spend their entire lives unable to walk but then are expected to make a graceful and speedy walk to their slaughter. I'm sure a lot of these farmers get impatient with an animal that large not moving and need to figure out how to get it to move. It is enormously sad, but it happens and is part of the industry.
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    Jan 31, 2008 7:39 PM GMT
    For a second, I thought it was a PETA post, I was about to rage.

    Poor cows. I fully understand the circle of life, and I don't mind eating animals, but it should be done in the most humane way possible, like, just put them in garages and start a car, or possibly, play them some Nickelback for 24 hours straight.

    Dammit, I got these awesome filet's today and forgot to marinate them, ugh.
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    Jan 31, 2008 8:18 PM GMT
    Ok I don't get it, are there any humane slaughter houses?

    I would think they are all pretty much the same, they just got caught.

    Thank God I have not eaten beef in two decades.
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    Jan 31, 2008 8:22 PM GMT
    Ducky44 saidOk I don't get it, are there any humane slaughter houses?


    Thanks to an amazing autistic woman named Temple Grandin, there are:

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    Jan 31, 2008 8:24 PM GMT
    paradox saidOMG! Hippie4lyfe is actually an alien symbiant, and he's taken up residence in Caslon!


    Oh, Hippie has started another, of his own. Something to do with fur icon_lol.gif If it turn bad, how many think he will get an email saying he deliberately started it, to start a controversy icon_question.gif

    I'm guessing he won't. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Mike
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    Feb 01, 2008 1:01 AM GMT
    Mike, Hippie has a long established history of never deliberately starting topics to stir up controversy, so of course he's not going to receive such an email. I mean, like, duh!
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    Feb 01, 2008 10:17 PM GMT
    I got this email from Ms. Studwell at Grateful Harvest in response to my email above:
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    Hi David~
    I had to forward your question to our Fresh team, hence the delay in getting back to you! Here is the answer:

    Jan,
    Here is how the GH Beef is slaughtered!

    The packers in Uruguay used Temple Grandin to assist them in their humane slaughter standards. They use a captive bolt system to stun the animals for slaughter.

    Thanks,
    Ralph Nagle
    Albert's ORGANICS
    Category Manager - Fresh

    I hope this helps!
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    captive bolt system
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    Feb 01, 2008 11:36 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]Caslon said[/cite]I got this email from Ms. Studwell at Grateful Harvest in response to my email above:
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    Hi David~
    I had to forward your question to our Fresh team, hence the delay in getting back to you! Here is the answer:

    Jan,
    Here is how the GH Beef is slaughtered!

    The packers in Uruguay used Temple Grandin to assist them in their humane slaughter standards. They use a captive bolt system to stun the animals for slaughter.

    Thanks,
    Ralph Nagle
    Albert's ORGANICS
    Category Manager - Fresh

    I hope this helps!


    Well its good you got a response, to me it seems like they are concerned over the the news story.
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    Feb 01, 2008 11:54 PM GMT
    Temple Grandin, (born August 29, 1947 in Boston, Massachusetts) is a professor at Colorado State University and a professional designer of "humane" slaughterhouses.

    "I think using animals for food is an ethical thing to do, but we've got to do it right. We've got to give those animals a decent life and we've got to give them a painless death. We owe the animal respect."
    ........- Temple Grandlin

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin
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    Feb 02, 2008 12:11 AM GMT
    Hey Caslon,

    Thankyou so much for the warning in your heading. That was REALLY GREAT THINKING on your part; very responsible.

    I did go to the link and read the article first. That itself was shocking. I felt I owed it to myself as a Californian to view the video.

    I felt sick to my stomic and almost started crying it was that unpleasent (to say the least.)

    This is the kind of treatment I believe goes on all around America because we are so quick and cheap to mass produce everything. It's not jst cows. Like the article points out, because of this it is the consumer that will pay the ultimate price down the road.

    One of the many reasons I do not eat meat anymore.
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    Feb 02, 2008 12:24 AM GMT
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