Fascinating quiz - at least in my opinion

  • dannyboy1101

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    May 22, 2010 9:45 PM GMT
    In the following post by me, there will be two questions. Hopefully, I will be able to set it up correctly so you will only see one at a time. Answer honestly. This has been something I've been thinking about for a while and it does kind of bother me. Again, answer honestly, if you would like to add responses feel free. If you want to leave the questions out of the response to save space feel free.

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    1. yes 2. yes or whatever.
  • dannyboy1101

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    May 22, 2010 9:49 PM GMT
    1. Would you jump out of an airplane because you find it a thrilling life experience and because you trust that the parachute will open allowing you to safely float to the ground?





























    2. Would you have sex with a guy who could be the love of your life but who is HIV+ trusting that the condom will work effectively allowing you both to share a full and happy life with continued good health and innumerable memorable experiences?
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    May 22, 2010 10:41 PM GMT
    1. I jump out of airplanes WITHOUT a parachute every day. But only after I land and park it.
    2. No. Aside from not being into anal anyway, I have turned down that request many times from guys I really love.
  • Anto

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    May 23, 2010 4:44 AM GMT
    1. No
    2. No. If it was someone I loved though, I wouldn't make it dependent on something like that either.
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    May 23, 2010 4:51 AM GMT
    I'm already not having fun icon_sad.gif
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    May 23, 2010 4:56 AM GMT
    1. No. Just never been that interested in jumping out of a plane.

    2. Yes. For the love of my life I would.


    Edit - I get that both are potentially life threatening activities. So is driving a car for that matter. I'd like to see what the risk of a parachute not opening is compared to a condom breaking (and I think at least some times you would know the condom broke and be able to get a new one before continuing - not the case with the parachute.) For me, jumping out of the plan wouldn't be worth the risk because the payoff wouldn't be so great for me. Being with a guy I loved and taking a calculated risk to be able to love him completely would be worth the risk to me.
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    May 23, 2010 5:13 AM GMT
    1. Yes
    2. I won't know until I am in that situation
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    May 23, 2010 5:16 AM GMT
    myjeep said1. Yes
    2. I won't know until I am in that situation


    Is "ditto" an acceptable answer?
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    May 23, 2010 5:21 AM GMT
    1) I have already jumped out of a plane

    2) Have been in the situation and couldnt do it
  • tennsjock

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    May 23, 2010 5:33 AM GMT
    1) yes, already have - three times
    2) don't know. it's a tough call, but were i in that situation i'd definitely go the local aids services center and talk to someone about what it would mean. i think it's a lot more than just using a condom every time, but i don't know for sure. can't make a decision without more information.
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    May 23, 2010 5:47 AM GMT
    Good gawd.. All the "no" answers to number 2.........I guess you guys just dont ever have sex huh?

    Oh well..
  • dannyboy1101

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    May 23, 2010 9:45 AM GMT
    For those of you who did no/no: gotcha, ur a safe player.

    For those of you who did yes/yes: congrats on the balls u got... I couldn't do both.

    For those who answered no to number 2: I'm not surprised but I am saddened. Both situations, one knows the risk involved. Both situations provide a thrill of some kind. However, one risk means death by splat and the other means a medical inconvenience similar to diabetes (people generally don't reach AIDS unless they don't keep up with medical attention or disregard medication use).

    What does skydiving offer? Great memories, a wild experience, adrenaline rush. Doesn't love offer those same things for longer? And some of you said only if you knew the person... Does that mean a poz guy should never disclose before getting to know a person so that way he has a chance to prove themselves worthy of the risk? It seems backwards to me. Perhaps I'm a romantic sap, but I would much rather take a risk for potential love than for the ability to claim ownership of testing gravity. Love IMO would provide greater rewards.

    Thoughts?
  • dannyboy1101

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    May 23, 2010 9:47 AM GMT
    paulflexes said1. I jump out of airplanes WITHOUT a parachute every day. But only after I land and park it.
    2. No. Aside from not being into anal anyway, I have turned down that request many times from guys I really love.


    Could be oral too. Though not as risky, risk is still there.
  • dannyboy1101

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    May 23, 2010 9:48 AM GMT
    Ciarsolo saidI'm already not having fun icon_sad.gif


    HUH?
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    May 23, 2010 10:47 AM GMT
    1.) Yes I would jump out of a plane, though I haven't done it. This is something that I plan to do.

    2.) Yes, without a doubt. I operate on the assumption that all of my sexual partners are HIV+ and have been doing so since the early 1980s. By my own definition, therefore, I have never had sex with anyone who is HIV- because I just assume that all men are potentially positive.

    I have no doubt whatsoever that I have had sex with men who were HIV+ over the years. They may have deliberately concealed their status or they may have been ignorant of their status.

  • tony_boost

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    May 23, 2010 10:56 AM GMT
    ya and ya
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    May 23, 2010 11:02 AM GMT
    I´m a no on the plane and a yes on the guy. Like Ursa I assume and therefore behave as though everyone is poz.
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    May 23, 2010 11:41 AM GMT
    1)Yes. Someday.

    2) Yes. Have. Would again. I agree with Ursa. Raincoats all the time!!!

    Besides, I wouldn't trade my Poz friends for all the Neg jerks I've ever met...no matter how hot they are!
  • Anto

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    May 23, 2010 7:04 PM GMT
    dannyboy1101 saidFor those of you who did no/no: gotcha, ur a safe player.

    For those of you who did yes/yes: congrats on the balls u got... I couldn't do both.

    For those who answered no to number 2: I'm not surprised but I am saddened. Both situations, one knows the risk involved. Both situations provide a thrill of some kind. However, one risk means death by splat and the other means a medical inconvenience similar to diabetes (people generally don't reach AIDS unless they don't keep up with medical attention or disregard medication use).

    What does skydiving offer? Great memories, a wild experience, adrenaline rush. Doesn't love offer those same things for longer? And some of you said only if you knew the person... Does that mean a poz guy should never disclose before getting to know a person so that way he has a chance to prove themselves worthy of the risk? It seems backwards to me. Perhaps I'm a romantic sap, but I would much rather take a risk for potential love than for the ability to claim ownership of testing gravity. Love IMO would provide greater rewards.

    Thoughts?


    Skydiving doesn't offer that for everyone though. I also think that not all people who like to skydive do so for the risk of death but because they actually like other aspects of skydiving and the risk of death is not the main component of it.

    I think that is greatly oversimplifying living with HIV as well.

    If you really loved someone why would it be dependent on having to do something that required wearing a condom to not catch a disease?
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    May 23, 2010 8:41 PM GMT
    dannyboy1101 saidFor those of you who did no/no: gotcha, ur a safe player.

    For those of you who did yes/yes: congrats on the balls u got... I couldn't do both.

    For those who answered no to number 2: I'm not surprised but I am saddened. Both situations, one knows the risk involved. Both situations provide a thrill of some kind. However, one risk means death by splat and the other means a medical inconvenience similar to diabetes (people generally don't reach AIDS unless they don't keep up with medical attention or disregard medication use).

    What does skydiving offer? Great memories, a wild experience, adrenaline rush. Doesn't love offer those same things for longer? And some of you said only if you knew the person... Does that mean a poz guy should never disclose before getting to know a person so that way he has a chance to prove themselves worthy of the risk? It seems backwards to me. Perhaps I'm a romantic sap, but I would much rather take a risk for potential love than for the ability to claim ownership of testing gravity. Love IMO would provide greater rewards.

    Thoughts?


    I think you are overs simplifying. HIV is not really comparable to diabetes. Diabetes in many cases can be cured by simply eating correctly and loosing weight at least for a type two diabetic. HIV cannot be cured with the current level of medical science. Type 1 diabetes cannot be caught so if you have it it is because you were genetically screwed.

    Additionally love can be found in more than one person, the experience of jumping out of a plane cannot be found by doing anything other than jumping out of a plane.
  • JayDT

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    May 23, 2010 9:13 PM GMT
    1. Yes. I am going sky diving for the first time ever this summer, can't wait!!!

    2. Yes, I have dated HIV poz men before. At the end though the fear of getting them sick or them dying is too great of an issue and I have to break it off. The love of my life is HIV poz. We're still very close friends.
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    May 23, 2010 9:19 PM GMT
    1. HELL YES!!!!

    2. Yes.
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    May 23, 2010 9:29 PM GMT
    1. No, I'm not really much of a thrill seeker. Meaning, I don't like doing things that don't have a point.

    2. No, probably not. I'll do a free response/reason for this later.
  • DrewT

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    May 23, 2010 9:45 PM GMT
    1. no

    2. yes