Obama takes blame for BP oil spill!

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    May 28, 2010 12:10 PM GMT
    This is pretty amazing considering Obama is just about the first person to blame himself instead of pointing fingers in politics in such a long time. Of course I don't think Obama is at fault. Oil companies are. But damn, what a fucking awesome guy blaming himself on this. Do you know the psychological implications this has on youth looking up to this dude? They're learning from their current top leader not to evade responsibility. This is probably one of the best actions a president can do: be honest especially if it hurts your credibility. Humiliation to me is very self-strengthening.


    Article from New York Times (May 28, 2010).

    Responding to Spill, Obama Mixes Regret With Resolve
    By PETER BAKER
    Published: May 27, 2010
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    WASHINGTON — President Obama uttered three words on Thursday that many of his 43 predecessors twisted themselves into knots trying with varying degrees of success to avoid: “I was wrong.”
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    “In case you’re wondering who’s responsible, I take responsibility,” President Obama told a news conference Thursday at the White House.
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    He strode into the East Room to mount a robust defense of his handling of the largest oil spill in American history, reassuring the nation that he was in charge and would do “whatever is necessary” to stop and clean up the BP leak in the Gulf of Mexico. But by the time he walked out an hour later, he had balanced that with a fairly unusual presidential self-critique.

    He was wrong, he said, to assume that oil companies were prepared for the worst as he tried to expand offshore drilling. His team did not move with “sufficient urgency” to reform regulation of the industry. In dealing with BP, his administration “should have pushed them sooner” to provide images of the leak, and “it took too long for us” to measure the size of the spill.

    “In case you’re wondering who’s responsible, I take responsibility,” Mr. Obama said as he concluded the news conference. “It is my job to make sure that everything is done to shut this down. That doesn’t mean it’s going to be easy. It doesn’t mean it’s going to happen right away or the way I’d like it to happen. It doesn’t mean that we’re not going to make mistakes. But there shouldn’t be any confusion here. The federal government is fully engaged, and I’m fully engaged.”

    The mix of resolve and regret served to erect a political berm that advisers hope may contain the damage from a five-week-old crisis that has challenged Mr. Obama’s presidency. Amid deep public frustration and criticism from both sides of the political aisle, the president sought to assert leadership in response to a slow-motion disaster emanating from a mile beneath the sea.

    But critics were not mollified, and Republicans kept up their efforts to equate Mr. Obama’s problems in the gulf with President George W. Bush’s response to Hurricane Katrina in 2005. A Web video posted by the National Republican Senatorial Committee spliced Mr. Obama’s own “never again” words about Katrina together with liberal commentators demanding that he do something about the oil spill.

    “And he just looks like he is not involved in this,” James Carville, the Democratic strategist and television pundit, said from Louisiana in the video. “Man, you got to get down here and take control of this and put somebody in charge of this thing and get this thing moving. We’re about to die down here.”

    Mr. Obama brushed off the Katrina comparisons, arguing that the government has made “the largest effort of its kind in U.S. history” and was in charge of BP’s response. “Those who think we were either slow in our response or lacked urgency don’t know the facts,” he said. “This has been our highest priority since this crisis occurred.”

    Indeed, he said, he too is “angry and frustrated” about the spill, and thinks about it as he wakes up in the morning and as he goes to sleep at night. As he shaved on Thursday morning, he said, his 11-year-old daughter, Malia, popped into the bathroom. “Did you plug the hole yet?” she asked.

    Still, there were uncomfortable echoes of Katrina. Just as Mr. Bush cast aside Michael Brown, the head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Mr. Obama addressed reporters just hours after S. Elizabeth Birnbaum, his director of the Minerals Management Service, resigned under pressure.

    Just as Mr. Bush was criticized for being on vacation in Texas when Katrina bore down on New Orleans, Mr. Obama has been criticized for golfing, fund-raising and, on Thursday night, heading to Chicago for a holiday weekend while oil laps up in the marshes and beaches of Louisiana.

    Mr. Obama will try to defuse that by interrupting his Chicago homecoming on Friday for his second day trip to Louisiana. And he pointed a finger at the Bush administration for allowing the Minerals Management Service to get too close to the oil industry, citing an inspector general’s report on activity before 2007 “that can only be described as appalling.”

    But the president’s concessions of missteps were striking. Admitting fault, after all, is not a common presidential habit, and happens only under great duress. The passive voice has been a favorite technique. President George Bush said “mistakes were made” during Iran-contra. President Bill Clinton said “mistakes were made” during campaign finance scandals. And President George W. Bush said “mistakes were made” during the firing of federal prosecutors.

    When the younger Mr. Bush accepted responsibility for the response to Katrina, he did so by saying that the “results are not acceptable” and vowed “to address the problems.” Within hours, he modified his assessment by saying he actually was “satisfied with the response” if not “with all the results.”

    Mr. Obama has shown a willingness to admit mistakes before. When his first nominee for secretary of health and human services, Tom Daschle, withdrew because of unpaid taxes, the president said with bracing bluntness, “I screwed up.”

    He chose his words more carefully on Thursday, but he ticked off a list of ways his administration had not performed adequately. At one point, he suggested the April 20 explosion that killed 11 workers and touched off the leak might have been avoided had his administration cleaned up what he called the cozy and corrupt relationship between regulators and industry sooner.

    “I take responsibility for that,” he said. “There wasn’t sufficient urgency in terms of the pace of how those changes needed to take place.” He added: “Obviously they weren’t happening fast enough. If they were happening fast enough, this might have been caught.”

    As for his drive before the spill to expand off-shore drilling, he said he still thinks he was right and that more oil will be needed until enough alternative fuels can be developed. “Where I was wrong,” he said, “was in my belief that the oil companies had their act together when it came to worst-case scenarios.”

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    May 28, 2010 3:06 PM GMT
    Good for him! While I don't blame him directly, he has been too soft on the oil companies and now that he's taken responsibility, perhaps he can get others to do so as well.
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    May 28, 2010 7:00 PM GMT
    It sounds like taking the blame, but it isn't. It's like a parent taking the blame for their kid coming home drunk: "It's my fault for trusting you not to drink." Read the equivalent in his words:
    Obama"Where I was wrong," he said, "was in my belief that the oil companies had their act together when it came to worst-case scenarios."

    The people at fault are BP. Here's another gem:
    Obama"I take responsibility for that," he said. "There wasn’t sufficient urgency in terms of the pace of how those changes needed to take place." He added: "Obviously they weren’t happening fast enough. If they were happening fast enough, this might have been caught."

    Again, he doesn't really blame himself, he just makes it sound that way. He blames the oil companies and implies blame on the previous administration.

    BP was at fault for this oil spill because there were inadequate safeguards.
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    May 28, 2010 7:31 PM GMT
    I think this whole thing is hilarious (politically)

    Republicans are claiming government cant do anything right and if it got out of the way the private sector would flourish!

    Then they bitch and moan for the government to swoop in and save the day when shit like this happens. On top of that they bitch about him taking to long to respond...arent these the same people saying government should NOT get involved?
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    May 28, 2010 7:38 PM GMT
    He needs to stop taking the blame for every damn thing!
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    May 28, 2010 7:43 PM GMT
    Blackguy4you saidHe needs to stop taking the blame for every damn thing!


    I'd like to see him stop apologizing for the U.S. to other countries too. This was an accident. No one is really to blame. That said, the fact that BP had no safeguards securely in place, especially after what happened with Exxon Valdez, is shocking to say the least.
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    May 28, 2010 7:48 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Blackguy4you saidHe needs to stop taking the blame for every damn thing!


    I'd like to see him stop apologizing for the U.S. to other countries too. This was an accident. No one is really to blame. That said, the fact that BP had no safeguards securely in place, especially after what happened with Exxon Valdez, is shocking to say the least.


    It is shocking!! The oil companies have made close to a trillion $$ in profit over the last 2 years. Instead of taking the blame He should fine BP's ass for a couple $$billion for the mess and make them clean up the damn mess themselves.

    What country did he apologize to?
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    May 28, 2010 8:32 PM GMT
    and yet congress still won't raise the ceiling on how much companies are responsible to pay for clean up obama's mistake (as a consolation)... me smells cop-out
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    May 28, 2010 8:41 PM GMT
    Dakota_gent saidIt sounds like taking the blame, but it isn't. It's like a parent taking the blame for their kid coming home drunk: "It's my fault for trusting you not to drink."


    So true.
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    May 28, 2010 8:42 PM GMT
    calibro saidand yet congress still won't raise the ceiling on how much companies are responsible to pay for clean up obama's mistake (as a consolation)... me smells cop-out


    Oh I read an article somewhere that WE are going to pay as they are going to raise oil prices to help pay for a spill. Once my transmission in my car blows out I'm buying a fucking bike. Fuck you America I'm going to get sexy legs!
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    May 28, 2010 8:42 PM GMT
    why are we all pointing our fingers at BP and the politicians? Maybe we should point our fingers at ourselves too. What type vehicle is parked in your garage/ driveway? Anything bigger than a bicycle, and your fingers should be pointing inward. I'm as guilty as the next guy. So until we stop demanding oil and start demanding something eco friendly I say put your money where your mouth is. In the words of Stokely Carmichael, "if you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem."
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    May 28, 2010 8:42 PM GMT
    Blackguy4you saidHe needs to stop taking the blame for every damn thing!


    EVERYTHING?!? Omg shut up. He's better than Bush.
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    May 28, 2010 8:43 PM GMT
    funbud8 saidwhy are we all pointing our fingers at BP and the politicians? Maybe we should point our fingers at ourselves too. What type vehicle is parked in your garage/ driveway? Anything bigger than a bicycle, and your fingers should be pointing inward. I'm as guilty as the next guy. So until we stop demanding oil and start demanding something eco friendly I say put your money where your mouth is. In the words of Stokely Carmichael, "if you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem."


    SEE?!? My point exactly! Look at the example our crunk babe president has already shaped. Funbud8 is right on the money!

    I walk to anything that's within a 2 mile distance of my apt. Unfortunately the god damn gym is 3 miles away.
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    May 28, 2010 8:53 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidI think this whole thing is hilarious (politically)

    Republicans are claiming government cant do anything right and if it got out of the way the private sector would flourish!

    Then they bitch and moan for the government to swoop in and save the day when shit like this happens. On top of that they bitch about him taking to long to respond...arent these the same people saying government should NOT get involved?


    This isn't accurate. There are quite a few Republicans who do want big government, as they were all well and good with it as it expanded when Bush was president.

    On the other hand there are Republicans, Democrats, some liberals, but mostly conservatives. Who do not fancy the whole big government thing which seems to be expanding ever more so under this administration.

    Government can't do everything, its too big and often sloppy. Not to mention if you give too much responsibility to government, expect them to do everything.. Bad things end up happening in the long run.

    Government has its role, but too much of it is a bad thing. This whole situation with the oil shows the sloppiness and slowness of government at times.
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    May 28, 2010 8:54 PM GMT
    IHG84 said..........


    yah id fuck

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    May 28, 2010 8:56 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Blackguy4you saidHe needs to stop taking the blame for every damn thing!


    I'd like to see him stop apologizing for the U.S. to other countries too. This was an accident. No one is really to blame. That said, the fact that BP had no safeguards securely in place, especially after what happened with Exxon Valdez, is shocking to say the least.



    I agree lol

    The first thing I thought when this whole thing happened was.

    Why didn't they get a few ships out there with some vacuums, work on closing up the hole, then vacuum the rest of the stuff up.

    All of these environmental studies, and bureaucratic nonsense just wastes so much time.
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    May 28, 2010 8:56 PM GMT
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    IHG84 said..........


    yah id fuck

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    LMFAO JOSH!!!!!
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    May 28, 2010 9:00 PM GMT
    IHG84 said
    joshnyz said
    IHG84 said..........


    yah id fuck

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    LMFAO JOSH!!!!!



    yeah just like diz

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    May 28, 2010 9:00 PM GMT
    It´s BP´s fault, but it´s nice to see someone taking responsibility for something they didn´t cause rather than evading responsibility for something they did (cough BUSH cough IRAQ)
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    May 28, 2010 9:08 PM GMT
    Considering how much money they gave to Obama, its probably appropriate

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html
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    May 28, 2010 9:30 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidI think this whole thing is hilarious (politically)

    Republicans are claiming government cant do anything right and if it got out of the way the private sector would flourish!

    Then they bitch and moan for the government to swoop in and save the day when shit like this happens. On top of that they bitch about him taking to long to respond...arent these the same people saying government should NOT get involved?


    LOL!
    So true.
    Haven't the Repubaggers been whining for the last year about how Obama and the Democrats were pushing a "government takeover" of the health care corporations, and about how they're bitterly opposed to government takeovers.
    Now, they're saying that the government should've taken over the oil spill response.
    Typical Republican hypocrisy.
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    May 28, 2010 9:41 PM GMT
    Blackguy4you saidHe needs to stop taking the blame for every damn thing!


    But he's not still much of the blame is being put on Bush, even the damage Clinton done.
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    May 28, 2010 11:06 PM GMT
    Pattison said

    But he's not still much of the blame is being put on Bush, even the damage Clinton done.



    'But he's not still much.....?' What the hell are you talking about, Forrest Gump? Has your brain omitted some key words that would bring some sense to this sentence?
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    May 28, 2010 11:29 PM GMT
    Preemptive strike

    Bush would have probably just claimed that god wanted the gulf of Mexico flooded with crude oil icon_twisted.gif
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    May 28, 2010 11:40 PM GMT
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    DoomsDayAlpaca saidI think this whole thing is hilarious (politically)

    Republicans are claiming government cant do anything right and if it got out of the way the private sector would flourish!

    Then they bitch and moan for the government to swoop in and save the day when shit like this happens. On top of that they bitch about him taking to long to respond...arent these the same people saying government should NOT get involved?


    This isn't accurate. There are quite a few Republicans who do want big government, as they were all well and good with it as it expanded when Bush was president.

    On the other hand there are Republicans, Democrats, some liberals, but mostly conservatives. Who do not fancy the whole big government thing which seems to be expanding ever more so under this administration.

    Government can't do everything, its too big and often sloppy. Not to mention if you give too much responsibility to government, expect them to do everything.. Bad things end up happening in the long run.

    Government has its role, but too much of it is a bad thing. This whole situation with the oil shows the sloppiness and slowness of government at times.


    People (Politicians) who talk about government being too big and ineffective usually make it that way.

    That's called a self fulfilling prophecy.