Transgender Republican Anti-Marriage Equality Candidate Makes Run For Congress

  • metta

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    May 28, 2010 3:57 PM GMT
    Transgender Republican Anti-Marriage Equality Candidate Makes Run For Congress


    http://floridaagenda.com/2010/05/27/transgender-candidate-makes-run-for-congress/
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    May 28, 2010 4:29 PM GMT
    look a snowball in hell.
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    May 28, 2010 4:49 PM GMT
    She hates herself AND she hates her country. At least she's no hypocrite.
  • dfrourke

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    May 28, 2010 7:07 PM GMT
    ftnip saidlook a snowball in hell.


    OK, that made me laugh out loud.

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  • dfrourke

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    May 28, 2010 7:09 PM GMT

    You know...it just goes to show you that identity, gender, orientation, and political beliefs do not have to all be homogenous...

    ...I would probably NOT use the word 'crutch' in my campaign ads if I was transgendered...it reads WAY TO CLOSE to crotch...something I am sure I wouldn't want my constituents to be focusing on...

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    May 28, 2010 7:24 PM GMT
    she must have that "angry inch"

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    May 28, 2010 7:33 PM GMT
    metta8 saidTransgender Republican Anti-Marriage Equality Candidate Makes Run For Congress


    http://floridaagenda.com/2010/05/27/transgender-candidate-makes-run-for-congress/


    I dont get this woman at all. Its like she gets what she wants and spits on the rest of us.

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    May 28, 2010 7:41 PM GMT
    hmm the only part that confuses me is, her feelings on marriage. "It should only be between a man and a women" i dont agree with that but i understand when people do belive that.
    but how does that aply to transgendered people? In her case would she be allowed to marry? to a man or a women? at all? if she is alowed to marry a man does that mean that if 2 gay men want to get married one of them just has to get a sex change to do it under her policy?
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    May 28, 2010 7:48 PM GMT
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    transgendered people can legally get married to the opposite sex of their legal gender

    So if you are legally a man but change your sex to a female, you can marry a woman and visa versa. I'm not sure what happens if you are married and you change what sex you are legally after you are married.
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    May 28, 2010 8:00 PM GMT
    dfrourke said
    ...I would probably NOT use the word 'crutch' in my campaign ads if I was transgendered...it reads WAY TO CLOSE to crotch...something I am sure I wouldn't want my constituents to be focusing on...

    052710-donna-milo-transgender-candidate-
    I am an American...
    my triumphs are
    based on my abilities,
    not on a label or a crotch


    HAHAHAHA
    Oh, god. It's hilarious if you read it that way! (especially since "crutch" doesn't make much sense in that statement...)
    Thank you. =)
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    May 28, 2010 8:19 PM GMT
    Rawrly said
    metta8 said
    I'm not sure what happens if you are married and you change what sex you are legally after you are married.


    That's the only gray area because they do not allow people to dissolve their marriage by changing gender. Presumably, the legal gender change would not take effect in a jurisdiction prohibiting same-sex marriage until the marriage is dissolved (divorce) which can take a while.


    Wait.
    Can you legally change your gender. Marry a guy. Then legally change it back?
    Is that a loophole? If you can do that without having to do any actual surgery, hormones, etc. then that would be awesome.
    I'd almost want to get married just for the fun of messing with the system!
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    May 28, 2010 8:27 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    metta8 saidTransgender Republican Anti-Marriage Equality Candidate Makes Run For Congress


    http://floridaagenda.com/2010/05/27/transgender-candidate-makes-run-for-congress/


    I dont get this woman at all. Its like she gets what she wants and spits on the rest of us.




    ehhhh, not necessarily.
    I mean, the very idea that you'd go to surgical and chemical extremes to try and change your sex so that you could "be" a gender tends suggests a an association between gender roles and sex that is actually relatively rigid. Obviously, trans people run the gamut on their personal beliefs, but, (certainly in my experience), many of them cleave tightly to gender stereotypes.

    ~i.e. he became a woman and you're just trying to act like one...
    [Just a guess at his thinking.]
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    May 28, 2010 9:04 PM GMT
    This sounds like the real life version of Mr. Garrison from South Park.

    It's also really good in forcing Republicans to accept transgendered people.
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    May 28, 2010 9:25 PM GMT
    JakeBenson saidThis sounds like the real life version of Mr. Garrison from South Park.

    It's also really good in forcing Republicans to accept transgendered people.



    I'd be willing to bet that the Repubs will accept transgendered people long before they accept gay people.
    Just look how they're voting on the DADT repeal legislation in Congress.
  • JayDT

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    May 28, 2010 9:45 PM GMT
    Hmmmm, a transgendered republican who doesn't believe in gay rights. I'm baffled that someone can be so wackadoodle.
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    May 28, 2010 9:46 PM GMT
    ActiveAndFit saidshe must have that "angry inch"



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    May 28, 2010 10:07 PM GMT
    JayDT saidHmmmm, a transgendered republican who doesn't believe in gay rights. I'm baffled that someone can be so wackadoodle.

    She's crazy but in a twisted way it helps the gay community inch into the Republican side.
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    May 28, 2010 11:36 PM GMT
    Rawrly said
    neosyllogy said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    metta8 saidTransgender Republican Anti-Marriage Equality Candidate Makes Run For Congress


    http://floridaagenda.com/2010/05/27/transgender-candidate-makes-run-for-congress/


    I dont get this woman at all. Its like she gets what she wants and spits on the rest of us.




    ehhhh, not necessarily.
    I mean, the very idea that you'd go to surgical and chemical extremes to try and change your sex so that you could "be" a gender tends suggests a an association between gender roles and sex that is actually relatively rigid. Obviously, trans people run the gamut on their personal beliefs, but, (certainly in my experience), many of them cleave tightly to gender stereotypes.

    ~i.e. he became a woman and you're just trying to act like one...
    [Just a guess at his thinking.]


    You mean her. The reason why some transgendered people seem to follow a caricature of their target sex is because they've been conditioned since infancy to follow what they were assigned at birth.


    Just because you're a woman now does not mean you have to be a complete bitch.
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    May 29, 2010 3:01 AM GMT
    metta8 said^
    transgendered people can legally get married to the opposite sex of their legal gender

    So if you are legally a man but change your sex to a female, you can marry a woman and visa versa. I'm not sure what happens if you are married and you change what sex you are legally after you are married.
    Yes, that is what makes her such a hypocrite. Funny thing is that even though she is "legally" a woman, until she sheds that Y chromosome she is still genetically a man.

    I am not opposed to transgenderism, but she is hypocritical and disingenuous.
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    May 29, 2010 3:44 PM GMT
    Rawrly said
    ActiveAndFit said
    metta8 said^
    transgendered people can legally get married to the opposite sex of their legal gender

    So if you are legally a man but change your sex to a female, you can marry a woman and visa versa. I'm not sure what happens if you are married and you change what sex you are legally after you are married.
    Yes, that is what makes her such a hypocrite. Funny thing is that even though she is "legally" a woman, until she sheds that Y chromosome she is still genetically a man.

    I am not opposed to transgenderism, but she is hypocritical and disingenuous.


    No one is genetically "a man". Sex, and gender particularly, aren't tied absolutely to chromosomes. There are people naturally with XY genotypes who are of a female phenotype.
    male and female is indeed a genetic trait .. I am not talking phenotypes. please review your biology. if you are a human male, you will have an xy, female xx, unless you have an abnormality of extra x's or y's
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    May 29, 2010 3:46 PM GMT
    metta8 saidSo if you are legally a man but change your sex to a female, you can marry a woman and visa versa. I'm not sure what happens if you are married and you change what sex you are legally after you are married.

    My head hurts... icon_razz.gif
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    May 29, 2010 3:47 PM GMT
    jprichva saidDebbie Wasserman-Schultz is my representative, and if this tranny thinks she can unseat her---well, let's just say she must still be on the painkillers they gave her when they snipped off her naughty bits.

    Still, this is some entertaining shit.

    She's my rep, too, and as you know the Teabaggers are gunning for her. She will not have an easy time in November, regardless of this tranny. icon_sad.gif
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    May 29, 2010 4:13 PM GMT
    Rawrly saidYou mean her. The reason why some transgendered people seem to follow a caricature of their target sex is because they've been conditioned since infancy to follow what they were assigned at birth.


    Actually, I'm referring to people who had voluntary reassignment as adults.
    Many f2m's try to put on excessively macho airs (the kind most people would find repugnant in normal men) and many m2f's tend to do the same with regard to femininity.
    Admittedly, these days I see more transgendered people that don't have clear gender identities (predominantly f2m's who self-identify as "gender queer" in my experience), but I wouldn't say that they are the norm and even in those cases the transperson in question often seems to have... complex... conceptualizations of how sex relates to personality traits (the upshot being that they think it needs to at all).

    When we're talking about voluntary adults who undergo sexual reassignment this isn't necessarily that surprising. The surgery (and hormones, etc) are expensive, painful, laborious and can usually only give an ersatz image of the desired sex. For a large number, if not most, adults doing this they are essentially choosing to have physical qualities vaguely like another sex, at the cost of personal health and bodily function, because they feel that their "gender" is "mismatched". That requires one to have a very strong commitment to the idea of sex-gender coupling. (This is almost the opposite of the increasingly more common opinion that sex and gender can or even ought to be separate.)

    [Note: I'm aware that there are many different reasons for undergoing sexual reassignment surgery. I'm merely talking about the thinking of a large, but not all-encompassing, group of those individuals.]
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    May 29, 2010 5:56 PM GMT
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    JayDT saidHmmmm, a transgendered republican who doesn't believe in gay rights. I'm baffled that someone can be so wackadoodle.

    She's crazy but in a twisted way it helps the gay community inch into the Republican side.


    She's not gay, and no it doesn't.
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