This Should be Handed to, or Emailed to Every Tea Bagger Out There

  • GQjock

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    Jun 04, 2010 10:28 AM GMT
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    Jun 04, 2010 12:40 PM GMT
    This is offensive, and you do no favors for the Democratic party. Here's a dollar - go buy some class.
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    Jun 04, 2010 12:55 PM GMT
    Brazen68 saidThis is offensive, and you do no favors for the Democratic party. Here's a dollar - go buy some class.


    Well said but they fail to See he was not responsible for wall Street or the American greed, Nor Bill Clinton's fuck ups either................
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    Jun 04, 2010 1:01 PM GMT
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    Brazen68 saidThis is offensive, and you do no favors for the Democratic party. Here's a dollar - go buy some class.


    Well said but they fail to See he was not responsible for wall Street or the American greed, Nor Bill Clinton either.


    I'm sorry I'm totally sidetracked by the picture of you smiling for a snapshot at Pearl Harbor. That's like smiling for a picture while on a tour at Auschwitz. Forgive my curiosity, but do a lot of people really do that?
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    Jun 04, 2010 1:06 PM GMT
    Two things:

    One, the OP's image is pretty dead on in terms of what's happened in the political culture. The Tea Parties are a perfect example of blaming Obama for actions taken by the Bush Administration. TARP, in particular, is something the TPs are always screaming about, but that was enacted by Bush's Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson. Read "Too Big To Fail" and may it will learn ya!

    Two, most people smile for pictures regardless of where they are taken. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 04, 2010 1:08 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidTwo things:

    One, the OP's image is pretty dead on in terms of what's happened in the political culture. The Tea Parties are a perfect example of blaming Obama for actions taken by the Bush Administration. TARP, in particular, is something the TPs are always screaming about, but that was enacted by Bush's Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson. Read "Too Big To Fail" and may it will learn ya!

    Two, most people smile for pictures regardless of where they are taken. icon_rolleyes.gif


    I'm quite relieved I don't share in your opinion.
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    Jun 04, 2010 1:11 PM GMT
    i was at pearl harbor last fall and they asked us to be respectful and be quiet and not take pictures. i totally agreed with them and was amazed at how many people decided not to listen to them and chose instead to disrespect those who died on that awful day. u even watch a movie before they take u to the memorial and totally sets the mood for the somber trip that you are about to take. short attention spans i guess.
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    Jun 04, 2010 1:19 PM GMT
    creasy1978 saidi was at pearl harbor last fall and they asked us to be respectful and be quiet and not take pictures. i totally agreed with them and was amazed at how many people decided not to listen to them and chose instead to disrespect those who died on that awful day. u even watch a movie before they take u to the memorial and totally sets the mood for the somber trip that you are about to take. short attention spans i guess.

    I think that is bullshit. Why don't they just outlaw speaking and human emotion at Pearl Harbor. What, because people died there, no one can ever laugh again?

    I say, celebrate them as heroes, but don't mourn them. That is sooooo Catholic.
  • vintovka

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    Jun 04, 2010 1:27 PM GMT
    I think this is funny as hell. Granted, it's not high political discourse, but comedy seems to be the only place where anyone discusses the truth in American politics. Of course as a couple of people have pointed out the Democrats have screwed us too, so it is a rock and a hard place to some extent. Both parties are bought and paid for by Wall Street, so what did you think would happen? The fact that the Supreme Court has recently eliminated all limits on corporate campaign contributions should only make it worse. We are truly screwed. Both parties will fuck you (and not in a good way), the democrats might use a rubber. I guess I'll take the rubber, but I'm not thrilled about the choices.

    Also I find it a little ironic that anyone would be offended by this in the gay community where hooking up with random strangers, rampant drug/alcohol use and posting pictures of your genitalia on the web are considered perfectly acceptable. Are people offended by the criticism of Bush, the reference to Obama as a "black guy", or the lack of respect for the office? What's the point of living in a democracy if we treat our elected leaders like divinely appointed kings? We have no problem as a society vilifying the most powerless among us, why can't the powerful take a little abuse?
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    Jun 04, 2010 1:49 PM GMT
    Brazen68 said
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    Brazen68 saidThis is offensive, and you do no favors for the Democratic party. Here's a dollar - go buy some class.


    Well said but they fail to See he was not responsible for wall Street or the American greed, Nor Bill Clinton either.


    I'm sorry I'm totally sidetracked by the picture of you smiling for a snapshot at Pearl Harbor. That's like smiling for a picture while on a tour at Auschwitz. Forgive my curiosity, but do a lot of people really do that?


    You know what I did not even think about it, it's atomic. My respect was shown by taking off my cap, and may I say I was the only one to show any such respect too. Smiling is not a crime.

    But at the same time many countries would of smiled that America was at last in the war to help out
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    Jun 04, 2010 2:08 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidTwo things:

    One, the OP's image is pretty dead on in terms of what's happened in the political culture. The Tea Parties are a perfect example of blaming Obama for actions taken by the Bush Administration. TARP, in particular, is something the TPs are always screaming about, but that was enacted by Bush's Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson. Read "Too Big To Fail" and may it will learn ya!

    Two, most people smile for pictures regardless of where they are taken. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Much of the voter displeasure deals with the current administration's spending and ignoring the majority position against the healthcare law, border, AZ efforts to protect their citizens, etc. True they are not pleased with the spending of the Bush administration but the recession that motivated spending came about in part because of the Democrat influence on bad mortgages.

    Most of the displeasure is directed at current Democrats.
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    Jun 04, 2010 2:16 PM GMT
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    vintovka saidThe fact that the Supreme Court has recently eliminated all limits on corporate campaign contributions should only make it worse.

    And that same decision also opens the doors for unions to do the same as corporations.


    Unions don't have 1% of the wealth of corporations. This is a ridiculous argument.


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    Jun 04, 2010 2:17 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidTwo things:

    One, the OP's image is pretty dead on in terms of what's happened in the political culture. The Tea Parties are a perfect example of blaming Obama for actions taken by the Bush Administration. TARP, in particular, is something the TPs are always screaming about, but that was enacted by Bush's Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson. Read "Too Big To Fail" and may it will learn ya!

    Two, most people smile for pictures regardless of where they are taken. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Much of the voter displeasure deals with the current administration's spending and ignoring the majority position against the healthcare law, border, AZ efforts to protect their citizens, etc. True they are not pleased with the spending of the Bush administration but the recession that motivated spending came about in part because of the Democrat influence on bad mortgages.

    Most of the displeasure is directed at current Democrats.


    That is a stunning litany of lies and half-truths.
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    Jun 04, 2010 2:34 PM GMT
    i don't think it should come as a surprise to anyone that obama has become the scapegoat for all that has gone wrong...from the war(s) to the oil spill to the economy to [fill in the blank with current crisis].

    he (and we) knew going in that the country was in a sad state of affairs at the end of the W administration...it's why the dems won so big...and why a man of color AND a woman AND a woman for VP were even in our purview. the election in '08 was unique in that our country was in the middle of hell...the winner got to be the guy who will be remembered as "well, at least they gave it a shot."

    the problems facing this administration are so huge it would take jesus christ along with superman and gigantor on his staff to fix it. so much so that i felt myself rooting for mccain in the election because i had a pet belief that had the GOP been elected into office for this particular term, it would have been the end of the GOP.

    obama is kind of a herbert hoover...he is in the unenviable position of being where he is, when he is. it isn't ALL W's fault, but after 8 years of running roughshod over the constitution and squandering the unequivocal support of the entire world (post 9/11), he shares a good deal of the blame. well, he and dick.
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    Jun 04, 2010 2:45 PM GMT
    As a black guy, i find it mildly amusing.
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    Jun 04, 2010 2:55 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    rangard said it isn't ALL W's fault, but after 8 years of running roughshod over the constitution


    Cite 2 examples of "W" doing something that is unconstitutional.

    Please.


    guantanamo bay (suspension of habeas corpus), torture, phone tapping, and many more couched in the umbrella "homeland security."
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    Jun 04, 2010 2:58 PM GMT
    First of all, that's awsome!! Second of all, I think the thinking portion of the American people showed a lot "class" by not lynching W. Bush; along side all the rest of the damage he caused, the guy basically reversed twentyfive years of environmental legislation in the first six monthes of his monarchy.
    Any president that came to office after two tours of the Bush Regime was basically fucked before he walked through the door... My only regret is that the USA's first black president was elected in time to take the fall...
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    Jun 04, 2010 3:16 PM GMT
    Brazen68 saidThis is offensive, and you do no favors for the Democratic party. Here's a dollar - go buy some class.


    Hahahaha. That is a good one.
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    Jun 04, 2010 3:18 PM GMT
    rangard said
    southbeach1500 said
    rangard said it isn't ALL W's fault, but after 8 years of running roughshod over the constitution


    Cite 2 examples of "W" doing something that is unconstitutional.

    Please.


    guantanamo bay (suspension of habeas corpus), torture, phone tapping, and many more couched in the umbrella "homeland security."


    I'm no fan of GWB's, to say the least, but Obama has perpetuated most of these practices. In fact, he has expanded them to include, for example, giving himself permission to order the assassination of American citizens. I can't think of a single promise he made about "homeland security" that he has honored, including the discontinuance of indefinite detention without trial.

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    Jun 04, 2010 3:20 PM GMT
    rangard said
    southbeach1500 said
    rangard said it isn't ALL W's fault, but after 8 years of running roughshod over the constitution


    Cite 2 examples of "W" doing something that is unconstitutional.

    Please.


    guantanamo bay (suspension of habeas corpus), torture, phone tapping, and many more couched in the umbrella "homeland security."



    Not to sound rightie, but guess who else suspended habeas corpus? FDR.

    Not to sound rightie, but guess who else is for warrantless wire taps? Obama

    The real issues on the Constitution is the outrageous expansion of Presidential powers Congress has always been giving away, thus diminishing the intentions of a true check-and-balance system in our government.
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    Jun 04, 2010 3:26 PM GMT
    Brazen68 saidThis is offensive, and you do no favors for the Democratic party. Here's a dollar - go buy some class.



    Ditto.
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    Jun 04, 2010 3:30 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    Much of the voter displeasure deals with the current administration's spending and ignoring the majority position against the healthcare law, border, AZ efforts to protect their citizens, etc. True they are not pleased with the spending of the Bush administration but the recession that motivated spending came about in part because of the Democrat influence on bad mortgages.


    1. Republicans were not complaining about Bush's spending until after Obama took office.

    2. And please cite the information about the Democrat influence on bad mortgages. The only impetus that set up the housing bubble and ultimately this Great Recession was the 1999 repeal of the Glass-Stegal Act that allowed banks to hedge "bets" against the debt using people's private money.



    My blame on the economy goes more on Phil Gramm and other financiers who set this up more than I blame the GOP as a whole. And I do acknowledge that the Democrats who voted for this repeal were stupid idiots who were just trying to stay alive in office. Sell us down the river...and I do think that Clinton agreed to this repeal in order to save his Presidency from impeachment by the Senate. This was November, 1999 afterall! He sold us out and I'm glad that I never voted for him.
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    coolarmydude said
    rangard said
    southbeach1500 said
    rangard said it isn't ALL W's fault, but after 8 years of running roughshod over the constitution


    Cite 2 examples of "W" doing something that is unconstitutional.

    Please.


    guantanamo bay (suspension of habeas corpus), torture, phone tapping, and many more couched in the umbrella "homeland security."



    Not to sound rightie, but guess who else suspended habeas corpus? FDR.

    Not to sound rightie, but guess who else is for warrantless wire taps? Obama


    lincoln suspended habeas too. war time presidents do all kinds of things and demand all kinds of things. it wasn't completely about W's constitutional transgressions, it was his (and cheney's) attitude about it. to them, the constitution was a burden, an obstacle to getting things done. they had little or no respect for it (or for voters who seemed to be pretty clear they didn't care for their cavalier attitude either), and rather than "requesting" permission from congress on such matters, they did it and then asked for forgiveness as a fait accompli. "oops, sorry about that. well, we're not exactly sorry in the conventional sense of that word...more regretful we were actually caught."

    so, yes armydude, there are all kinds of examples of presidents pushing the limits. but cheney, according to an article in vanity fair, had a bur in his ass to make up for lost power from the nixon administration. he actively sought ways to maneuver the presidential power to his advantage...hence the added peccadillo of a bad attitude.
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    Jun 04, 2010 3:35 PM GMT
    ObsceneWish said

    I'm no fan of GWB's, to say the least, but Obama has perpetuated most of these practices. In fact, he has expanded them to include, for example, giving himself permission to order the assassination of American citizens. I can't think of a single promise he made about "homeland security" that he has honored, including the discontinuance of indefinite detention without trial.



    this really isn't a referendum on BO's policies (i personally think he is in way too deep...as would be anyone in his shoes, GOP or otherwise) and that would require a separate thread altogether, but my post was an answer to SBs question...as though W hadn't done anything wrong. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    southbeach1500 said
    vintovka saidThe fact that the Supreme Court has recently eliminated all limits on corporate campaign contributions should only make it worse.

    And that same decision also opens the doors for unions to do the same as corporations.

    There are more rich corporations than there are rich unions. Without restrictions, the corporations can and will spend more money than the unions, or any other special interest groups. It is this unrestricted and uneven playing field that causes the problem, not that corporations can spend money per se, which they were already doing in various ways before this ruling.