New Safari 5.0

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    Jun 08, 2010 12:01 PM GMT
    Safari 5.0 just arrived, got Apple's email notice this morning before my automatic software update reported it. Already downloaded it to my Mac, really does seem faster as claimed. Of course totally painless, all my Favorites & settings retained intact, typical easy Mac update, we'll see how Windows handles it later this morning on my partner's computer.

    Dont' notice much different so far, looks identical to the way I had Safari 4 configured, except the blue page-load indicator bar at the bottom is gone, that function now combined with the address field at the top. I seem to recall an earlier Safari version did that, too, and I prefer it.

    Only thing unusual was a very slow download time, I'm guessing Apple's servers may have been maxed-out as millions of people were notified all at once. Because after I got it installed, surfing the web just flies, so unlikely it was my connection at this end. I recommend doing the update.
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    Jun 08, 2010 12:07 PM GMT
    Hmmmm... the Safari update just downloaded for me in about 5 seconds.
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    Jun 08, 2010 12:21 PM GMT
    paradox saidHmmmm... the Safari update just downloaded for me in about 5 seconds.

    5 seconds for nearly 40MB of data? Was this through the automatic software update? The dmg file was already loaded in the background by the time the updater notified you. I loaded it from the Apple site manually, after taking the emailed link there, before the updater alerted.
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    Jun 08, 2010 12:38 PM GMT
    No, I logged into my Mac with VNC and manually did the update. I'm on a 20+ megabit fiber connection, though. I also updated the MacBook, and it also downloaded in less than a minute, although not as quickly as with the iMac's wired connection.
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    Jun 08, 2010 1:21 PM GMT
    paradox saidNo, I logged into my Mac with VNC and manually did the update. I'm on a 20+ megabit fiber connection, though. I also updated the MacBook, and it also downloaded in less than a minute, although not as quickly as with the iMac's wired connection.

    Who provides your fiber? I don't believe there's residential fiber service in my area, but things change.
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    Jun 08, 2010 1:36 PM GMT
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    paradox saidNo, I logged into my Mac with VNC and manually did the update. I'm on a 20+ megabit fiber connection, though. I also updated the MacBook, and it also downloaded in less than a minute, although not as quickly as with the iMac's wired connection.

    Who provides your fiber? I don't believe there's residential fiber service in my area, but things change.


    http://natel.net/

    They're a local fiber optic network that caters to businesses. I live out in the country, and they'd brought their fiber to a large business a couple miles south of me. So, I had them bury two and a half miles of fiber out to the house; it was either that or satellite, and I knew I'd hate satellite. I had the fiber connection for 4-5 years before the phone company finally started offering DSL out here.

    In town, my old dial-up ISP is wiring the whole town with fiber to the door and offering 100 megabit Internet, TV, and telephone. Not bad for a town of 10,000 people in Iowa.
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    Jun 08, 2010 2:21 PM GMT
    paradox saidIn town, my old dial-up ISP is wiring the whole town with fiber to the door and offering 100 megabit Internet, TV, and telephone. Not bad for a town of 10,000 people in Iowa.

    Thanks, and for the link above. Looks like nothing that will help me here in Fort Lauderdale. Sometimes living in an urban area is worse for getting better Internet, because of the existing infrastructure.

    We had a cable modem with Comcast, at their highest residential speed. Except we never saw that rate, plus the interruptions were constant, and with the TV, too, where the picture quality was poor.

    We switched to DirectTV satellite, much more reliable, better image resolution, and a better channel package for the price than we had with Comcast here. For Internet we went with AT&T DSL, at the same speed as the cable (at least for downloads). Not the best way, I know, but in our neighborhood the issue was reliability without service interruptions, and we got that. Plus all our billing is combined from AT&T -- wireless, residential line, Internet, and DirectTV.

    Unless somebody drops fiber in here, I'm thinking our next Internet upgrade may be with satellite. Then we can eliminate the phone land line w/DSL altogether, since recently our condo complex arranged for cell phones to be able to control door entry to the building and allow speaking on the entry intercom, as previously only a residential phone could do.
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    Jun 08, 2010 2:54 PM GMT
    is it faster than firefox? i've found FF to be faster than chrome, flock, and safari. opens fast, loads fast...and totally customizable.

    i have safari 4.x right now and i have a mac. i just haven't been impressed with safari. in fact i use flock as my back up browser when i want a change.
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    Jun 08, 2010 3:08 PM GMT
    My suggestion WRT satellite Internet is to try it out somewhere and do lots of research. A friend of mine, about 30 miles south of me in the deep boonies, ditched her flaky, extended reach DSL for satellite, and now she can't wait until her satellite contract is up so that she can go back to DSL. The half-second latency she can live with, but the fair access policy was constantly squishing her bandwidth down to dial-up speed. She does computer repair, and Windows updates on client machines was using up her bandwidth allotment. She can't afford a higher bandwidth package, so DSL is a better match for her needs.
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    Jun 08, 2010 7:36 PM GMT
    I just downloaded. I guess I should have read up on the differences between Safari 5 and previous versions. It looks and feels the same to me.

    (BTW, I downloaded it in about 10 seconds. I have a comcast cable modem).
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    Jun 08, 2010 8:07 PM GMT
    rangard saidis it faster than firefox? i've found FF to be faster than chrome, flock, and safari. opens fast, loads fast...and totally customizable.

    i have safari 4.x right now and i have a mac. i just haven't been impressed with safari. in fact i use flock as my back up browser when i want a change.


    I've always had better performance with Safari. FF can get really bogged down by extensions too, so I also use FF to check websites I'm developing.

    Most of the updates to Safari 5 are under the hood. I'm super excited for the new HTML 5 tag support, though until Internet Explorer starts supporting them (maybe by 2050), I'll never be able to build much of a site around them.

    I love the address bar in Safari 5. It autocompletes so much better than any I've used. You can type a friends name and get their Facebook profile . . You can even type a RJ members username and pull up their profile! (So long as it's in your history).
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    Jun 08, 2010 10:46 PM GMT
    rangard saidis it faster than firefox? i've found FF to be faster than chrome, flock, and safari. opens fast, loads fast...and totally customizable.

    i have safari 4.x right now and i have a mac. i just haven't been impressed with safari. in fact i use flock as my back up browser when i want a change.


    Firefox faster than Chrome? Listen Im waiting for my appetizer at Piazzetta Restaurant and u just made me lol in front of everyone, seriously not cool.
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    Jun 08, 2010 10:55 PM GMT
    I'm currently downloading icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 08, 2010 11:34 PM GMT
    charlitos said
    Firefox faster than Chrome? Listen Im waiting for my appetizer at Piazzetta Restaurant and u just made me lol in front of everyone, seriously not cool.

    Online in a restaurant? I find that oddly attractive.. I do not like this.. Tell me it was one of those junky android phones....
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    Jun 09, 2010 12:12 AM GMT
    charlitos said
    rangard saidis it faster than firefox? i've found FF to be faster than chrome, flock, and safari. opens fast, loads fast...and totally customizable.

    i have safari 4.x right now and i have a mac. i just haven't been impressed with safari. in fact i use flock as my back up browser when i want a change.


    Firefox faster than Chrome? Listen Im waiting for my appetizer at Piazzetta Restaurant and u just made me lol in front of everyone, seriously not cool.


    yep. firefox. faster. than. chrome. laugh your ass off.
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    Jun 09, 2010 12:13 AM GMT
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    rangard saidis it faster than firefox? i've found FF to be faster than chrome, flock, and safari. opens fast, loads fast...and totally customizable.

    i have safari 4.x right now and i have a mac. i just haven't been impressed with safari. in fact i use flock as my back up browser when i want a change.


    I've always had better performance with Safari. FF can get really bogged down by extensions too, so I also use FF to check websites I'm developing.



    i must have a special copy of firefox cuz it's faster than the other two. hmm, imagine that.