Gay guys really are thinner, study says...

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    Jun 08, 2010 2:48 PM GMT
    Gay guys really are thinner, study says
    But lesbians are heavier than heterosexual women
    By Linda Carroll

    any thoughts?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37557883/ns/health-behavior/?GT1=43001
  • rnch

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    Jun 08, 2010 2:54 PM GMT
    Not in New Orleans....icon_lol.gif

    we DO love our food and beverage here! icon_twisted.gif

    a skinny guy past the age of 30 is usually known as a "tourist" icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 08, 2010 2:57 PM GMT
    Where was this study conducted?

    How much does the Overall Populations Obesity Rate have to do with this?

    How many people were in this study?

    How many of those individuals classified themselves as Bisexual?

    How long was this study done?

    Did the researcher taken in to account the lifestyles, locations, earnings, and vocations of each participant?

    How much did each participant exercise on Average?

    Control group?

    I find many flaws with the idea of this study, there's really no relevance. What, are you going to tell men, "Hey if you want to lose weight, become gay?" I can't believe someone wasted their time and probably wasted some money on this.

  • Timbales

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    Jun 08, 2010 3:22 PM GMT
    I think they should say that this is about gay men and women in the Boston Mass metropolitan area, since that seems to be who was surveyed.
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    Jun 08, 2010 4:39 PM GMT
    I think that's because in general men are most focused on physical appearance than women. Therefore heterosexual women and gay men feel the pressure to be trim. Alternatively, lesbian women might feel less pressured to be a twig.

    Just a thought.
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    Jun 08, 2010 4:43 PM GMT
    i see lots of gay guys who aren't fat it's true, but they aren't exactly in shape either.

    i know exactly 3 lesbians, and they're all slim, 2 of them being your typical lipstick lesbo.
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    Jun 08, 2010 4:46 PM GMT
    There are a lot of obese gays in the area here--just go to Mazo beach and you will see how obese they are. I've noticed no difference whatsoever in fitness beetween gays and str8s. Around here the percertage of those who are overweight is very similiar between the 2 groups. I wouldn't put too much stock in this.
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    Jun 08, 2010 5:05 PM GMT
    I would say that gay people come in just as many physical varieties as other people. I mean, it sounds like gay men make more of an effort on their appearance, but I'm sure they're no different than anyone else. There are people who care a lot about their looks and fitness and plenty of others who don't give a crap regardless of their sexual orientation.
  • calibro

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    Jun 08, 2010 6:13 PM GMT
    I think that has to do with the fact of heightened competition. Not only do gay men have to vie against other gay men for relationships (sexual, romantic, etc...) but also they must attract mates from body size and do a lot to maintain that... i think it's a lot easier for a married straight men to let himself go whereas gay men are constantly on their toes
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    Jun 08, 2010 6:15 PM GMT
    My guess is that this is typical media reporting of a health and fitness study. I have seen such ridiculous headlines as "Exercise ineffective for weight loss". The media tends to take a study like this and pull out one piece of information and then present that piece of information out of context and in the most sensational way possible. To me this sounds like a study that was originally intended to determine if there were special health issues in gay people. Most likely intended to help primary care staff in gay clinics, indigent clinics and other related facilities better detect and target potential health issues in the population that they serve. Most of the time these numbers are corrected for income, alcohol use, drug abuse, educational level, etc., and after all the adjustments it turns out that straight males are just 7% more likely to be obese then gay males. All in all, given the tremendous focus on appearance in current gay culture, I find that to be a highly believable difference. In general, most of us visually will not notice that seven percent difference in going about our usual lives. Especially since sexuality is such a murky area. The fastest growing group of people in terms of sexual identification, is "mostly straight" males. As a recent article suggested, they are mostly straight but with the right guy, on the right day, a few beers and who knows. So among self identified gay versus straight males there is a 7% greater chance of a straight male being obese. Seems that a highly believable statistic from a study was simply reduced to the most sensational headline possible with little regard for the context which it came from, nor an appreciation of how small that percentage difference really is.
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    Jun 08, 2010 7:37 PM GMT
    I don't see how this is even news. Men are more visual than women when it comes to sexual attraction. If you want to attract a man(straight women and gay men), you have to look your best. Hence why a lesbian or straight guy wouldn't give a fuck. Pretty elementary. Women don't judge physical appearance and aren't sexually stimulated by the visual the same as men. If you want to bang a dude, you have to work out. If you want to bang a woman, you have to work on your personality and bank account. And, yes, there are ALWAYS exceptions to any rule.
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    Jun 08, 2010 7:40 PM GMT
    Considering you know WHO the entire gay population consists of. If you have two gay men, one morbidly obese and one ripped to shreds, take a wild guess which one is more likely to be in the closet.
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    Jun 16, 2010 12:58 PM GMT
    ^ Can I say the Ripped Guy? Because I'm sure there has to be some study that shows that Obese Men were Mama's boys and they are more often to confide in their mothers and in others.... Oh wait, that would be another useless study.

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    Jun 16, 2010 1:04 PM GMT
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    Jun 16, 2010 1:28 PM GMT
    im sorry, but it seems most of you don't want to be known as the thinner ones...? im quite proud of it icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 16, 2010 2:06 PM GMT
    BlueDemon said^ Can I say the Ripped Guy? Because I'm sure there has to be some study that shows that Obese Men were Mama's boys and they are more often to confide in their mothers and in others.... Oh wait, that would be another useless study.



    People often condemn "useless studies" for confirming what everyone already knew by common sense anyway. But the thing is, common sense is often completely wrong. Doing a study is the only way to actually find out what's going on. Sometimes the findings are exactly what you'd expect; other times they're not. Either way, it's a valuable result, because now we actually know.

    Unless you're saying that these things are just not even worth thinking about? The world doesn't need to know if there are any unique fitness issues for gay men, or whether a man's fitness level correlates with how likely he is to be out? Because then I'd have to disagree with you. I think these are facts that are worth knowing. And really, there are entire university departments dedicated to far more esoteric knowledge than this...
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    Jun 16, 2010 2:08 PM GMT
    I need to be more gay.
    11% bodyfat is way too straight.
  • ChilaxinJOCK0...

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    Jun 16, 2010 2:42 PM GMT
    yea i def dont fit into that "study"...one day of overeating and I jiggle for the next 3
  • adidas0783

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    Jun 16, 2010 2:50 PM GMT
    LOL! icon_biggrin.gif

    I definitely would not fit in with that population of gay men. Granted I workout a lot....I love my food and beer! Num Num.....

    Also, I went to browse through the new H & M here in town and stuck out like a sore thumb with all of the skinny twinks prancing around and was told that I should look elsewhere because they did not have denim that could fit what I was "working with" as I was told by one of the queens working there.

    It was actually entertaining.
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    Jun 16, 2010 2:52 PM GMT
    RowBuddy saiduhg. Tell that to my muffin top, wide child bearing hips, pot belly and rolls!!

    Excuse me, the Saltine and water I had for breakfast made me feel bloated. I have to go gag myself with a spoon.



    hahaha! Love it! At least you got to taste it....you can go vomit now.

    BTW - You make looking bloated...ummm...SEXY! icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 16, 2010 2:55 PM GMT
    Ciarsolo saidConsidering you know WHO the entire gay population consists of. If you have two gay men, one morbidly obese and one ripped to shreds, take a wild guess which one is more likely to be in the closet.


    I'll join you in the closet Miggy for seven minutes in heaven. Just promise not to tell Tim. icon_twisted.gif
  • davidnta

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    Jun 16, 2010 3:04 PM GMT
    BlueDemon saidWhere was this study conducted?

    Havard and Northwestern

    How much does the Overall Populations Obesity Rate have to do with this?

    It's used to operationalized obesity most likely here.

    How many people were in this study?

    Why don't you go look up the N yourself. It seems like it was a health survey done in Massachusettes.

    How many of those individuals classified themselves as Bisexual?

    I don't know if they checked for that, but if it didn't reach statistical significance then it probably wouldn't have been included.

    How long was this study done?

    Most likey the data was collected over time if it's this huge.

    Did the researcher taken in to account the lifestyles, locations, earnings, and vocations of each participant?

    I'm sure those variables were controlled for within the survey. It's easy to do that with SPSS and SAS icon_smile.gif

    How much did each participant exercise on Average?

    Look it up icon_smile.gif

    I'm sure you can get that info yourself if you look up the study.

    Control group?

    Seriously? A control group in survey study? How would one conduct an experiment with weight between gay men, bisexual men, and straight men, control for all variables, and achieve generalizability?

    I find many flaws with the idea of this study, there's really no relevance. What, are you going to tell men, "Hey if you want to lose weight, become gay?" I can't believe someone wasted their time and probably wasted some money on this.

    You should reall self-deprecating of yourself and other gay men by the tone of your questioning and your lack of looking this up yourself. Why would researchers make a claim like that? There are other factors like gay men tend to be pressured like straight women to conform to an ideal body type that should be considered. This is good research that's being done that doesn't deal with STDs and bad health habits.