UN committee moves to keep out gay-lesbian NGO

  • metta

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    Jun 08, 2010 9:43 PM GMT
    UN committee moves to keep out gay-lesbian NGO


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    The U.N. NGO committee has 19 members, among them the United States and Britain, who supported the NGO. Among those who voted against it were Egypt, Sudan, Qatar, Pakistan, China, Russia, Angola, Burundi and Sudan. Turkey abstained.

    Johnson said it was "a clear case of discrimination against an organization because it defends the human rights of LGBT people around the world and promotes non-discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity."

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    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0397380
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    Jun 09, 2010 12:43 AM GMT
    From the list of countries voting against, not a single one surprises me. However, the one surprise for me is Turkey. I would have thought they would have voted against rather than abstain.
  • DCEric

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    Jun 09, 2010 12:58 AM GMT
    ErikTaurean saidFrom the list of countries voting against, not a single one surprises me. However, the one surprise for me is Turkey. I would have thought they would have voted against rather than abstain.


    Nah, Turkey is more progressive than that.... and they will do anything Europe wants right now, including spat with Israel. EU membership trumps everything else for countries that are eligible.
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    Jun 09, 2010 1:51 AM GMT
    I myself would love nothing more than to see the U.N. disbanded. Just because it may of seemed at times to support the GLBT communities, doesn't mean it did over all. There was a time the last Pope declared to the U,N. if yo allow homosexuals and prostitutes to represent at an international AIDS confrence, he would not participate. So to have him there the U.N. was happy for the conference to go ahead without homosexuals and prostitutes having representation. I suppose the pope did not want homosexuals and prostitutes interfering with his agenda.

    But sadly The GLBT communities can easily be brought too, and will follow anything that seems to support them. I'm not sure I want the gay and lesbian body at hand representing me anyway. Gay activist have done enough damage down here, and when they fuck up they refuse to own the damage they have done, and fob it off with you have to take the good with the bad. My two cents.
  • trl_

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    Jun 09, 2010 2:10 AM GMT
    Pattison saidI myself would love nothing more than to see the U.N. disbanded. Just because it may of seemed at times to support the GLBT communities, doesn't mean it did over all. There was a time the last Pope declared to the U,N. if yo allow homosexuals and prostitutes to represent at an international AIDS confrence, he would not participate. So to have him there the U.N. was happy for the conference to go ahead without homosexuals and prostitutes having representation. I suppose the pope did not want homosexuals and prostitutes interfering with his agenda.



    I appreciate your observations. As an international law major, I'd like to offer insight to the thread about how the UN actually works and clarify what it can and cannot do in regards to your comments (I'm not nit-picking, I'm just working with what the thread has so far lol)

    The system of international law that has developed over the past few decades has ingrained the UN into itself. The UN cannot be disbanded. It would be basically impossible to address so many crucial issues from global health, intl. crime, and genocides without it, rather than having a fighting chance with it.

    Citing the example with any Pope is partially pointless because the Holy See, while a sovereign state within the UN system, merely holds observer status and never votes on anything rendering it a "useless" entity within the body outside the times when it gives its moral input on agenda items. The threat of the Holy See not attending any UN function would carry zero to no weight, so there were probably other factors affecting the final decision you're talking about.

    Finally, I want to point out to everyone that NGOs, while powerful in the international scene have no sovereignty as states legally do. Because of that, they have no say (in form of vote or voice) in the decisions of any governance bodies and said bodies are fully within their powers when excusing NGOs from their forum for whatever reason (or even no reason at all), it actually happens a lot. While disappointing, this information in the original post is not really news at all since NGOs are routinely kicked out of UN and other governance procedures.