Shanghai, China - The last 20 years

  • metta

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    Jun 08, 2010 10:23 PM GMT
    Shanghai, China - The last 20 years

    1990

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    2010

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    Shanghai 1990 vs 2010


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    Jun 08, 2010 11:49 PM GMT
    Have you ever been to Shanghai, Metta? It's an amazing city, especially at night on the Bund.
  • DCEric

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    Jun 09, 2010 12:55 AM GMT
    ....wait until you see what happens in India from 2000 to 2020. A similar explosion is in progress, China's rate of growth has peaked, though it is still growing quickly, India is in the middle of its peak.
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    Jun 09, 2010 12:57 AM GMT
    Shanghai is absolutely amazing! I plan on visiting when I study abroad in China later on in my college career.
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    Jun 09, 2010 1:36 AM GMT
    DCEric said....wait until you see what happens in India from 2000 to 2020. A similar explosion is in progress, China's rate of growth has peaked, though it is still growing quickly, India is in the middle of its peak.


    India's democracy (good), corruption and beaurocracy (bad) will never let it become like China.
  • offshore

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    Jun 09, 2010 1:55 AM GMT
    Great pics, I left Shanghai in 1992 and lived in the UK. At that time, even a medium sized middle of the road town in the UK felt more lively and advanced than SH (might have been an illusion). Looking back, SH is now one of the most happening places I have even been (last visit was 2005, and hugh transformations had taken place since then).

    Amonst Chinese cities, SH is in a unique position as it doesn't have a lot of the tradition stand in it's way of progress. A lot of other cities in China lost their thousand year old buildings in the way of rebuild which was tragic, but SH didn't have that much inhibition so it's good to see it afteer it's face lifts.

    I just hope they do pay attention at preserving some of the charm and fantastic old architecture and natural beauty in surrouding areas and not all jump the gun try to be the next SH.

    That first pic was really nostalgic for me...
  • Djmaxvayo

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    Jun 09, 2010 3:57 AM GMT
    I was in Shanghai recently and it is indeed amazing! It is also very polluted though. icon_sad.gif I found myself coughing quite a bit and shielding my eyes when it was windy because of all the debris flying through the air.

    What I really enjoyed about Shanghai was that the people were very gracious. It was a pleasant change from life in the States. icon_smile.gif
  • Bunjamon

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    Jun 09, 2010 4:51 AM GMT
    The Expo is worth seeing, too, I was there two weeks ago, though the lines are long and it's HOT.

    Shanghai and Beijing have such different feels it's like being in another country. Shanghai feels a lot more Western, more like a synthesis of Chinese culture and Western consumerism, architecture, cleanliness.... But then you go to the long distance bus station just north of the train station and the trough you have to squat over for number two instead of toilets reminds you right quick where you are!

    Everyone should make it to China, though, regardless of what political views you may have concerning China. It really is a pretty amazing place.
  • DCEric

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    Jun 10, 2010 1:16 AM GMT
    sundayswim said
    DCEric said....wait until you see what happens in India from 2000 to 2020. A similar explosion is in progress, China's rate of growth has peaked, though it is still growing quickly, India is in the middle of its peak.


    India's democracy (good), corruption and beaurocracy (bad) will never let it become like China.


    India has been cleaning up its act, a lot. World metrics of corruption show it plunging, and that China will have worse corruption in 5 years.
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    Jun 10, 2010 1:21 AM GMT
    Wow, it's incredible to see how SH has changed in such a little period of time! It seems that many cities in China have modernized quite a bit over the past couple of decades.
  • Cutlass

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    Sep 06, 2010 10:12 AM GMT
    Have you been to Shanghai, metta8? That's one city that has always intrigued me and would like to visit. It was once called the "Paris of the Orient", but also the "Whore of Asia". I think the later sobriquet came about because it was kind of a "anything goes" type of city. There was gambling (of course the Chinese like to gamble), burlesque, taxi dancers, and gay performers among other forms of entertainment. It also had race courses, 'the longest bar in the world", palatial movie theaters, and a cosmopolitan and Western flair with its European style architecture. Many European countries (Britain, France, Russia, etc.) had their own enclaves there and claimed extraterritoriality by having their own laws and not conforming to China's, to say nothing of paying any taxes. Of course the Europeans and Americans too (many American companies had businesses in Shanghai) took advantage of the Chinese, and it would come to an end; but it would've been nice to visit Shanghai when Western influence held sway and the city was unlike any in Asia.
  • offshore

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    Sep 06, 2010 10:50 AM GMT
    "Anything goes" is the song in Indiana Jones 2's openning sequences. Set in Shanghai.
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    Sep 06, 2010 11:03 AM GMT
    I go to SH on business about three times every four months. Always an adventure.
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    Sep 06, 2010 12:59 PM GMT
    I'm going there tomorrow for work! Not looking forward to the humidity, but I'm sure it'll be an adventure!
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    Sep 06, 2010 1:04 PM GMT
    sundayswim said
    DCEric said....wait until you see what happens in India from 2000 to 2020. A similar explosion is in progress, China's rate of growth has peaked, though it is still growing quickly, India is in the middle of its peak.


    India's democracy (good), corruption and beaurocracy (bad) will never let it become like China.


    Good point! sunday swim