HALP!! What is "cocktail attire?"

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    Jun 09, 2010 1:54 AM GMT
    OK Im invited to go to my coworker's party.. it's on a boat here in Miami..Cocktail Attire a MUST, and jackets a MUST

    WTF is Cocktail Attire?

    I looked at some pictures and it looks exactly like a suit, except maybe the tie..

    Is there a difference between Cocktail Attire vs. Suits that you wear to work??

    I hate being overdressed and prefer casual so is it normal to wear a sport shirt & jacket with khakis in place of dress shirts/suit jacket/dress pants????

    Im guessing t-shirts underneath the suit jacket is out of the question in case I need to take my jacket off due to the heat, please help. THANKS a million handjobs.
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    Jun 09, 2010 2:52 AM GMT
    jduckj saidIs there a difference between Cocktail Attire vs. Suits that you wear to work??

    Business suits tend to be more dark and somber, the trousers & jacket naturally matching, the tie muted. For cocktails not followed by dinner you would wear a sports jacket, and the tie can be more expressive, with bolder colors & patterns.

    I'll be attending such a function on the 22nd, a weekday. And I expect some men will be wearing professional attire, having just come from their offices. You don't say whether your party is on a weekend, in which case suits would be less likely.

    For some parties I skip a tie with the jacket, just open collar, and even wear a collarless knit pullover (but never a turtleneck -- this is not the 1960s). On the other hand, if a formal dinner is to follow, I may wear black bow tie and dinner jacket. Here in Miami, however, onboard a yacht for cocktails only, I would go with the sports jacket.

    Make it lightweight linen or silk for coolness, since you know the weather here has turned hot early this year, though expect the main salon to be air-conditioned. A gentleman normally does not remove his jacket in mixed company during such a function.
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    Jun 09, 2010 3:01 AM GMT
    Look-up "business casual".

    Black leather shoes.
    Dark semi-dress pants.
    White (or color) collared button-up long sleeve shirt.
    No tie.
    Dark jacket.

    If the weather is hot, where a cotton/synthetic undershirt. And your button-up shirt should be made of a breathable material as well.

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    Jun 09, 2010 3:18 AM GMT
    Heheh, I was going to post, "Ask Wilton" and well... here he is!

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    Jun 09, 2010 3:35 AM GMT
    meninlove said Heheh, I was going to post, "Ask Wilton" and well... here he is!

    -Doug

    You are most kind, though xrichx has some good pointers. Still, I might question black shoes only, and a dark jacket here in Miami. Onboard a private yacht (or perhaps a hired excursion boat in this case) I have worn deck shoes in distressed brown leather or even canvas, and a sport jacket can be a little lighter, in both color and fabric weight.The nautical setting changes everything -- this is not an inner-city residence.
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    Jun 09, 2010 3:45 AM GMT
    Oh gads, my fault , I didn't get past the second post before deciding to post! Apologies xrichx. icon_redface.gif
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    Jun 10, 2010 10:57 PM GMT
    Wilton said
    jduckj saidIs there a difference between Cocktail Attire vs. Suits that you wear to work??

    Business suits tend to be more dark and somber, the trousers & jacket naturally matching, the tie muted. For cocktails not followed by dinner you would wear a sports jacket, and the tie can be more expressive, with bolder colors & patterns.

    I'll be attending such a function on the 22nd, a weekday. And I expect some men will be wearing professional attire, having just come from their offices. You don't say whether your party is on a weekend, in which case suits would be less likely.

    For some parties I skip a tie with the jacket, just open collar, and even wear a collarless knit pullover (but never a turtleneck -- this is not the 1960s). On the other hand, if a formal dinner is to follow, I may wear black bow tie and dinner jacket. Here in Miami, however, onboard a yacht for cocktails only, I would go with the sports jacket.

    Make it lightweight linen or silk for coolness, since you know the weather here has turned hot early this year, though expect the main salon to be air-conditioned. A gentleman normally does not remove his jacket in mixed company during such a function.


    what do u think of light khakis, distressed brown loafers, white/light blue dress shirt, with navy jacket...

    i'd think the light khakis might be TOO casual?? is this correct? there will be hor derbs, no sit down dinner, lots of drinks.

    oh yah and its weekend
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    Jun 10, 2010 11:06 PM GMT
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    Wilton said
    jduckj saidIs there a difference between Cocktail Attire vs. Suits that you wear to work??

    Business suits tend to be more dark and somber, the trousers & jacket naturally matching, the tie muted. For cocktails not followed by dinner you would wear a sports jacket, and the tie can be more expressive, with bolder colors & patterns.

    I'll be attending such a function on the 22nd, a weekday. And I expect some men will be wearing professional attire, having just come from their offices. You don't say whether your party is on a weekend, in which case suits would be less likely.

    For some parties I skip a tie with the jacket, just open collar, and even wear a collarless knit pullover (but never a turtleneck -- this is not the 1960s). On the other hand, if a formal dinner is to follow, I may wear black bow tie and dinner jacket. Here in Miami, however, onboard a yacht for cocktails only, I would go with the sports jacket.

    Make it lightweight linen or silk for coolness, since you know the weather here has turned hot early this year, though expect the main salon to be air-conditioned. A gentleman normally does not remove his jacket in mixed company during such a function.


    what do u think of light khakis, distressed brown loafers, white/light blue dress shirt, with navy jacket...

    i'd think the light khakis might be TOO casual?? is this correct? there will be hor derbs, no sit down dinner, lots of drinks.

    oh yah and its weekend


    Not necessarily. (Khaki's that is. Do press them.) You were you invited? E-mail? Phone call? Or mailed invitation with RSVP? If there is no dinner, it will likely be held on deck. I do think I would skip distressed loafers however, and add a little dressier shoe in that area.
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    Jun 10, 2010 11:38 PM GMT

    OR....you could wear a very bright tube top with leopard petal pushers and gold open toe sandals.

    If confused ask Doug or Wilton they will translate icon_razz.gif

    If you need to be boring and do a jacket with linen pants don't forget the sperry topsiders and no socks. Yep very dated icon_cool.gif
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    Jun 10, 2010 11:52 PM GMT
    jduckj saidwhat do u think of light khakis, distressed brown loafers, white/light blue dress shirt, with navy jacket...

    i'd think the light khakis might be TOO casual?? is this correct? there will be hor derbs, no sit down dinner, lots of drinks.

    oh yah and its weekend

    Could be acceptable with that crowd. Problem is, I don't know that crowd. Now MY scruffy crowd would have no trouble with slacks in a light color, from an off-white linen to a medium gray. As you say, only hors d'oeuvres with drinks on a weekend, and in Miami.

    Is this a private yacht or hired? Hired you can expect more casual, while private the standards depend on the owners. Have any of your coworkers attended one of these before that you can just ask them? Or at least get a consensus of what others will be wearing?
  • johnoc

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    Jun 10, 2010 11:57 PM GMT
    Wilton has a great point since it's a nuatical cocktail event.

    here's my 2 cents.........

    nothing beats a navy / dark suit / white or light blue shirt (with appropriate v-neck t underneath / and a tie up light brown shoe / belt.
    put a hankerchief in the chest pocket too!

    or a navy jkt and light weight wool tan slack......same shirts and loafer shoe / belt.

    the classics just always look appropriate in those situations......
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    Jun 11, 2010 12:07 AM GMT
    jduckj saidWTF is Cocktail Attire?



    cocktail attire is what overpriviliged douches wear while getting loaded on drinks served to them by the people from whom they steal from in order to afford ridiculous luxuries that they don't deserve.

    I don't want to hear the 'rewards for hard work' argument; it's patently false, as the wealthy typically come from priviliged backgrounds that act as buffers that exclude the vast majority of people, so they do not truly earn the wealth on an even playing field. Besides, why should there be a 1000-fold difference between the salaries of someone who works hard 40-60 hours a week in a factory making something and someone working 40-60 hours behind a desk in a highrise?

    So, OP, you should wear a bandolier and machine gun and send those imperialist swine to the bottom of the sea.

    J/K!!!!

    At least look into joining the local branch of the Socialist Party. Pro gay, pro worker, pro women, pro equity...pro freedom.
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    Jun 11, 2010 12:16 AM GMT
    johnoc saidWilton has a great point since it's a nuatical cocktail event.

    here's my 2 cents.........

    nothing beats a navy / dark suit / white or light blue shirt (with appropriate v-neck t underneath / and a tie up light brown shoe / belt.
    put a hankerchief in the chest pocket too!

    or a navy jkt and light weight wool tan slack......same shirts and loafer shoe / belt.

    the classics just always look appropriate in those situations......

    All good suggestions, given what we know so far (and don't know). I might add that my favorite lightweight summer wool blend is called a tropical worsted. I even used to have my khaki summer officer's uniform made in that material, trousers and short-sleeve shirt both.

    Wool sounds hot, but doesn't have to be. That dinner jacket in my main pic is made in a very thin tropical weight wool, and is as comfortable as wearing pajamas. It's a myth that wearing a tuxedo is torture, and I look forward for opportunities to wear mine versus a heavier and less comfortable business suit. Evening attire can be much flimsier than daily wear because it's only worn for a few hours in the lightest of duties.

    Still, with the temps we're getting here in Florida right now, consider linen and linen blends for the trousers, or a poly-wool mix, even well-pressed cotton if a good quality. Just be aware it will quickly wrinkle with the heat. The main salon will have A/C if it's kept closed, but expect activities to extend outside to the deck(s). You don't mention if you'll be taking a cruise where the breeze will help, or else remaining docked the whole time.

    But you still have to get onboard, the walk conceivably a long one from parking lot and along the marina. The nicer marinas will provide golf cart-like shuttle service to your boat, but you may still be spending some time in the heat outside, arriving already drenched if you dress too warmly.
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    Jun 11, 2010 12:22 AM GMT
    xebec75 said
    jduckj saidWTF is Cocktail Attire?



    cocktail attire is what overpriviliged douches wear while getting loaded on drinks served to them by the people from whom they steal from in order to afford ridiculous luxuries that they don't deserve.

    I don't want to hear the 'rewards for hard work' argument; it's patently false, as the wealthy typically come from priviliged backgrounds that act as buffers that exclude the vast majority of people, so they do not truly earn the wealth on an even playing field. Besides, why should there be a 1000-fold difference between the salaries of someone who works hard 40-60 hours a week in a factory making something and someone working 40-60 hours behind a desk in a highrise?

    So, OP, you should wear a bandolier and machine gun and send those imperialist swine to the bottom of the sea.

    J/K!!!!

    At least look into joining the local branch of the Socialist Party. Pro gay, pro worker, pro women, pro equity...pro freedom.


    With out the J/K that almost sounded jealous and bitter... Easy killer.. icon_razz.gif Capitalism rocks!
  • GQjock

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    Jun 11, 2010 1:55 AM GMT
    You have some very good suggestions so far
    and you can think of Cocktail attire as the next wrung down below formal
    .... Men need to wear a jacket
    usually dark esp if it's an evening event
    tie is optional
  • xebec75

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    Jun 11, 2010 2:29 AM GMT
    bmw0 said
    xebec75 said
    jduckj saidWTF is Cocktail Attire?



    Socialist Party. Pro gay, pro worker, pro women, pro equity...pro freedom.


    With out the J/K that almost sounded jealous and bitter... Easy killer.. icon_razz.gif Capitalism rocks!


    ha! Not for everyone does capitalism work. In fact it is really only an outgrowth of feudalism. Only now the lords and ladies occasionally let a peasant in the club so we don't lip off their heads. They fool us into thinking that if we work hard enough (for them, incidentally) we can join the club. Not true and not even the point. There is no equality as long as there is inequity.
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    Jun 11, 2010 2:44 AM GMT
    xebec75 said
    bmw0 said
    xebec75 said
    jduckj saidWTF is Cocktail Attire?



    Socialist Party. Pro gay, pro worker, pro women, pro equity...pro freedom.


    With out the J/K that almost sounded jealous and bitter... Easy killer.. icon_razz.gif Capitalism rocks!


    ha! Not for everyone does capitalism work. In fact it is really only an outgrowth of feudalism. Only now the lords and ladies occasionally let a peasant in the club so we don't lip off their heads. They fool us into thinking that if we work hard enough (for them, incidentally) we can join the club. Not true and not even the point. There is no equality as long as there is inequity.


    Capitalism works best because it is the only social and economic system that aligns itself with the human triaits of achievement, ambition, self-improvement, individualism, self-esteem, and initiative. However, it is not perfect just better than other systems.
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    Jun 11, 2010 3:01 AM GMT
    tomk7 said
    xebec75 said
    bmw0 said
    xebec75 said
    jduckj saidWTF is Cocktail Attire?



    Socialist Party. Pro gay, pro worker, pro women, pro equity...pro freedom.


    With out the J/K that almost sounded jealous and bitter... Easy killer.. icon_razz.gif Capitalism rocks!


    ha! Not for everyone does capitalism work. In fact it is really only an outgrowth of feudalism. Only now the lords and ladies occasionally let a peasant in the club so we don't lip off their heads. They fool us into thinking that if we work hard enough (for them, incidentally) we can join the club. Not true and not even the point. There is no equality as long as there is inequity.


    Capitalism works best because it is the only social and economic system that aligns itself with the human triaits of achievement, ambition, self-improvement, individualism, self-esteem, and initiative. However, it is not perfect just better than other systems.



    Hey guys you can still throw a cocktail party on a 14 foot aluminum dingy and wear the same cocktail attire icon_rolleyes.gif

    Just make sure you tie it up in a slip in 2 to 3 feet of water. That way if you do a Natalie over the bow or stern they will find you icon_cool.gif
  • nicelyproport...

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    Jun 11, 2010 3:38 AM GMT
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    To my eye, the ensemble above is too dark and too serious for a cocktail party on the water in miami.

    The best plan would be to ask others guys what they'll be wearing. Then ask yourself whether you want to stand out or fit in.

    A good rule of thumb: it's always safer to be a little overdressed than too underdressed.


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    Jun 11, 2010 3:40 AM GMT
    Here's your answer;

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  • silverfox

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    Jun 11, 2010 3:43 AM GMT
    I don't know. For me, this was the first thing that came to mind.

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