Will you buy gas at a BP station now?

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    Jun 09, 2010 3:07 AM GMT
    I'm doing a personal boycott of BP. Are you?
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    Jun 09, 2010 3:25 PM GMT
    I would avoid them.

    I already avoid Shell, because of human right violations and environmental crimes in Nigeria, for one. Amazing how the Dutch pretend to be so liberal and environmental at home, but when it comes to despoiling others for economic gain, they are among the worst in the world.

    Texaco/Chevron should be added to the list, because of extremely bad environmental and human rights crimes over many years in the Ecuadorian Amazon, large tracts of which have been poisoned for centuries. They are currently using every dirty trick in the book to try to get out of paying for it.
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    Jun 09, 2010 3:30 PM GMT


    We'll go to war for oil but freak out when it spills on our turf......

    This attitude stinks of what we call NIMBY

    (Not in My Back Yard)

    I'm actually laughing
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    Jun 09, 2010 3:31 PM GMT
    Unfortunately guys youre only hurting the station owners and not really BP.

    Write BP and/or your Congressman instead and voice your concerns on the environment, death of marine life and harm done to the fishing/tourist industry. Please.
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    Jun 09, 2010 3:34 PM GMT
    so you will waste gas to drive an extra 2 miles to the nearest gas station, therefore making gas demand go up, bringing gas prices up, bringing profits back up to said gas company.

    if you really gave shit, you'd take the bus.

    what's next, let's boycott beer because it's the drink preferred by your typical homophobe?
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    Jun 09, 2010 3:35 PM GMT
    Thisuserexists said

    We'll go to war for oil but freak out when it spills on our turf......
    This attitude stinks of what we call NIMBY
    (Not in My Back Yard)
    I'm actually laughing



    You're comparison makes no sense... The permanent damage done to the environment and death of many animals and'or their extinction does NOT compare to war. I actually have more concern for the environment and the marine life there. Your attitude is what really stinks! icon_rolleyes.gif

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    Jun 09, 2010 3:43 PM GMT
    Norig_ said
    Thisuserexists said

    We'll go to war for oil but freak out when it spills on our turf......

    This attitude stinks of what we call NIMBY

    (Not in My Back Yard)

    I'm actually laughing


    You're comparison makes no sense... The permanent damage done to the environment and death of many animals and'or their extinction does NOT compare to war. I actually have more concern for the environment and the marine life there. Your attitude stinks! icon_rolleyes.gif


    I think what he meant was: Where was this outrage when the U.S. destroyed much of the infrastructure and cultural patrimony, and yes, environment, in Iraq, not to mention the many thousands of civilian deaths from U.S. bombing? I agree with that sentiment.
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    Jun 09, 2010 3:47 PM GMT


    I'm not comparing this to war, but destruction is destruction.


    You have to able to see the irony? As tragic as it is?


    We're not imune either, some of that oil I'm sure was desitined for Europe.

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    Jun 09, 2010 3:47 PM GMT
    Norig_ saidUnfortunately guys youre only hurting the station owners and not really BP.

    Write BP and/or your Congressman instead and voice your concerns on the environment, death of marine life and harm done to the fishing/tourist industry. Please.


    Doing both would be good. I went so far as to sell my car and walk places so I'm not supporting the use of fossil fuels. One person doing it is not enough, but it would be nice to see it happen.
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    Jun 09, 2010 3:48 PM GMT
    viveutvivas said
    Norig_ said
    Thisuserexists said

    We'll go to war for oil but freak out when it spills on our turf......

    This attitude stinks of what we call NIMBY

    (Not in My Back Yard)

    I'm actually laughing


    You're comparison makes no sense... The permanent damage done to the environment and death of many animals and'or their extinction does NOT compare to war. I actually have more concern for the environment and the marine life there. Your attitude stinks! icon_rolleyes.gif


    I think what he meant was: Where was this outrage when the U.S. destroyed much of the infrastructure and cultural patrimony, and yes, environment, in Iraq, not to mention the thousands of civilian deaths? I agree with that sentiment.


    I know what he meant... As if many Americans didn't oppose the war and have concerns .. but infrastructure can always be rebuilt. The UK was right there with us, besides man-made things have little value to me compared to what is being destroyed in the Gulf.
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    Jun 09, 2010 3:52 PM GMT
    Thisuserexists said

    I'm not comparing this to war, but destruction is destruction.

    You have to able to see the irony? As tragic as it is?

    We're not imune either, some of that oil I'm sure was desitined for Europe.



    Sorry I detected the usual UK anti-Americanism in your little barb. Pardon if that wasn't the case... Irony yes irony it was.
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    Jun 09, 2010 3:55 PM GMT
    While I understand the intentions of boycotting them, I know that it's really going to hurt the guys that get up and pump gas 10hrs a day to support their families.

    The greedy CEO's and Exec's are gonna make sure that they're still making their 6/7 figure salaries regardless of how many jobs they have to cut. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 09, 2010 3:55 PM GMT
    Norig_ said
    Thisuserexists said

    I'm not comparing this to war, but destruction is destruction.

    You have to able to see the irony? As tragic as it is?

    We're not imune either, some of that oil I'm sure was desitined for Europe.



    Sorry I detected the usual UK anti-Americanism in your little barb. Forgive if that wasn't the case.


    Well firstly I'm not from the UK,

    And secondly did I not say "We'll go to war...."?

    I take full responsibility for my use of Fossil Fuels, and don't forget more comes from Oil than petroleum. (Plastics etc)

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    Jun 09, 2010 3:57 PM GMT
    Thisuserexists said
    Norig_ said
    Thisuserexists said

    I'm not comparing this to war, but destruction is destruction.

    You have to able to see the irony? As tragic as it is?

    We're not imune either, some of that oil I'm sure was desitined for Europe.



    Sorry I detected the usual UK anti-Americanism in your little barb. Forgive if that wasn't the case.


    Well firstly I'm not from the UK,

    And secondly did I not say "We'll go to war...."?

    I take full responsibility for my use of Fossil Fuels, and don't forget more comes from Oil than petroleum. (Plastics etc)



    oh Southern Ireland? again forgive my faux pas. icon_neutral.gif
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    Jun 09, 2010 3:58 PM GMT
    Norig_ said
    viveutvivas said
    Norig_ said
    Thisuserexists said

    We'll go to war for oil but freak out when it spills on our turf......

    This attitude stinks of what we call NIMBY

    (Not in My Back Yard)

    I'm actually laughing


    You're comparison makes no sense... The permanent damage done to the environment and death of many animals and'or their extinction does NOT compare to war. I actually have more concern for the environment and the marine life there. Your attitude stinks! icon_rolleyes.gif


    I think what he meant was: Where was this outrage when the U.S. destroyed much of the infrastructure and cultural patrimony, and yes, environment, in Iraq, not to mention the thousands of civilian deaths? I agree with that sentiment.


    I know what he meant... As if many Americans didn't oppose the war and have concerns .. but infrastructure can always be rebuilt. Man-made things have little value I think compared to what is being destroyed in the Gulf.


    Even the left was cheerleading the war in the beginning. I agree that infrastructure is nothing compared to environmental destruction - after all, I am a member of Greenpeace and I voted for the Green party in the last election. But the many thousands of civilians who were killed in the Iraq war are also permanently lost. They cannot be brought back, and there is no comparable outrage in the U.S. about that. Not to mention the looting and loss of millennia-old archeological artifacts, part of the history of all of us, that happened as a direct result of the bumbling conduct of the war by the U.S.
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    Jun 09, 2010 4:03 PM GMT
    Norig_ said
    Thisuserexists said
    Norig_ said
    Thisuserexists said

    I'm not comparing this to war, but destruction is destruction.

    You have to able to see the irony? As tragic as it is?

    We're not immune either, some of that oil I'm sure was destined for Europe.



    Sorry I detected the usual UK anti-Americanism in your little barb. Forgive if that wasn't the case.


    Well firstly I'm not from the UK,

    And secondly did I not say "We'll go to war...."?

    I take full responsibility for my use of Fossil Fuels, and don't forget more comes from Oil than petroleum. (Plastics etc)



    oh Southern Ireland? again forgive my faux pas. icon_neutral.gif


    It's not a faux pas, I'm not touchy about it, but it clearly says where I'm from on my profile.

    But apology accepted.
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    Jun 09, 2010 4:10 PM GMT
    PowerRunner saidI'm doing a personal boycott of BP. Are you?



    No way. This was first and foremost an accident. Could have happened to any of these oil companies. The only people a boycott would really hurt are the station owners. Won't do anyone any good if, among other things, BP also goes bankrupt.
  • Celticmusl

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    Jun 09, 2010 4:14 PM GMT
    Thisuserexists said

    I'm not comparing this to war, but destruction is destruction.


    You have to able to see the irony? As tragic as it is?


    We're not imune either, some of that oil I'm sure was desitined for Europe.




    Enlightenment is enlightenment. Most times someone has to experience it for themselves to understand the reality. It might be tragic but it has nothing to do with irony. Although this is a very tragic situation, at least I hope it has educated many in this part of the hemisphere on the devastation oil companies are implementing on our behalf. ("Our behalf", meaning everyone that uses oil, not just the evil U.S.)

    I'm a vegetarian and when someone becomes a vegetarian because they finally get it, I don't mock them for it.

    Also, to think that everyone in the U.S. was for big business oil companies in the first place is naive. It's pretty much like saying everyone in the U.K. goes to the pub every night and gets wasted.
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    Jun 09, 2010 4:16 PM GMT
    The real crime is Obama's ineffectualness. He should be out there, aggressively pushing for energy and environmental legislation. Instead, he and his ilk are still, even now, defending expanded offshore drilling.

    This administration is just as much in the pockets of the industrial complex as the previous one. Maybe even more so - after all, Obama has done more for expanded drilling than Bush so far. After all, they and the CEOs of these companies all know each other, move in the same circles, have kids in the same schools, and socialize together. No wonder we are so fucked.
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    Jun 09, 2010 4:20 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    PowerRunner saidI'm doing a personal boycott of BP. Are you?



    No way. This was first and foremost an accident. Could have happened to any of these oil companies. The only people a boycott would really hurt are the station owners. Won't do anyone any good if, among other things, BP also goes bankrupt.


    So we should buy BP oil to keep it from bankruptcy so that it is our money that pays for the cleanup and fines? icon_eek.gif

    In any case, how can BP go bankrupt if we are only hurting the station owners?
  • Celticmusl

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    Jun 09, 2010 4:22 PM GMT
    I will be glad to not buy my gas at BP, and it most definitely will hurt BP if we are not using their gas. Yes, it will hurt the local owners that have made their deal with the devil, but once they go out of business we will not be using BP's oil. Just because some Americans lose their job doesn't mean a boycott is not desirable.

    However, point me to an oil company that is not mired in atrocities against the eco systems of the world, and human rights. I'm not sure if that exists.
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    Jun 09, 2010 4:28 PM GMT
    viveutvivas said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    PowerRunner saidI'm doing a personal boycott of BP. Are you?



    No way. This was first and foremost an accident. Could have happened to any of these oil companies. The only people a boycott would really hurt are the station owners. Won't do anyone any good if, among other things, BP also goes bankrupt.


    So we should buy BP oil to keep it from bankruptcy so that it is our money that pays for the cleanup and fines? icon_eek.gif

    In any case, how can BP go bankrupt if we are only hurting the station owners?



    BP wouldn't go bankrupt, but I presume that would be the intention of those who would boycott the company. A Boycott is silly. The company is a victim of a horrible accident. Bottomline: We need oil. Until we stop using oil, we need it, and we need it as cheap as possible. Drill baby drill...Just do it safely and learn from this horrible disaster.
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    Jun 09, 2010 4:37 PM GMT
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    PowerRunner saidI'm doing a personal boycott of BP. Are you?



    No way. This was first and foremost an accident. Could have happened to any of these oil companies. The only people a boycott would really hurt are the station owners. Won't do anyone any good if, among other things, BP also goes bankrupt.


    So we should buy BP oil to keep it from bankruptcy so that it is our money that pays for the cleanup and fines? icon_eek.gif

    In any case, how can BP go bankrupt if we are only hurting the station owners?



    BP wouldn't go bankrupt, but I presume that would be the intention of those who would boycott the company. A Boycott is silly. The company is a victim of a horrible accident. Bottomline: We need oil. Until we stop using oil, we need it, and we need it as cheap as possible. Drill baby drill...Just do it safely and learn from this horrible disaster.


    How exactlyis it an ACCIDENT when the company has been shown to have been cutting numerous corners to get a better bottom line. this was not an accident it was self sabatoge
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    Jun 09, 2010 4:53 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    viveutvivas said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    PowerRunner saidI'm doing a personal boycott of BP. Are you?



    No way. This was first and foremost an accident. Could have happened to any of these oil companies. The only people a boycott would really hurt are the station owners. Won't do anyone any good if, among other things, BP also goes bankrupt.


    So we should buy BP oil to keep it from bankruptcy so that it is our money that pays for the cleanup and fines? icon_eek.gif

    In any case, how can BP go bankrupt if we are only hurting the station owners?



    BP wouldn't go bankrupt, but I presume that would be the intention of those who would boycott the company. A Boycott is silly. The company is a victim of a horrible accident. Bottomline: We need oil. Until we stop using oil, we need it, and we need it as cheap as possible. Drill baby drill...Just do it safely and learn from this horrible disaster.



    Lol, Ok I'm going out on a limb and suggest someone is heavily invested in BP stock.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 09, 2010 5:11 PM GMT
    Celticmusl said


    Lol, Ok I'm going out on a limb and suggest someone is heavily invested in BP stock.



    LOL! Not at all. It's just that, unfortunately, as long as we remain dependent on oil, these oil companies are a necessary evil, and they do provide a necessary service for you every time you fill up your car with gas. It's easy to point fingers and say they messed up, boycott them, whatever, but at the end of the day we need these oil companies to continue to provide us with a product we are, sadly, dependent on. By trying to hurt the oil company we are only really hurting ourselves.