Kids who go to after-school parties at the homes of same-sex parents may encounter gay porn

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    Jun 09, 2010 8:36 PM GMT
    Diarrhea from the mouth of a columnist for The Pilot, the newspaper of the Archdiocese of Boston:

    http://www.thebostonpilot.com/article.asp?ID=11893

    Highlights:

    "My own son in the first grade in a Boston Archdiocesan parochial school had a classmate who was being raised by his father and another man. From what I observed then, I concluded that the arrangement served neither my son nor the other students in the class."

    "...parents are rightly given access to a child’s classroom, and yet I could not trust the designs of the same-sex couple."

    "...it seemed a real danger that the boy being raised by the same-sex couple would bring to school something obscene or pornographic, or refer to such things in conversation, as they go along with the same-sex lifestyle, which -- as not being related to procreation -- is inherently eroticized and pornographic. He might expose other children to such things, as he might easily have encountered them in his household."

    "When I raised these and similar concerns with the pastor, he replied that the school’s mission was to serve the child of the same-sex couple. I said that I believed that the Church indeed had such a mission, but that this mission conflicted with the mission to educate my son well."

    And on and on...
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  • Webster666

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    Jun 09, 2010 9:08 PM GMT
    There's a good reason they're known as religious NUTS.


    "...it seemed a real danger that the boy being raised by the same-sex couple would bring to school something obscene or pornographic, or refer to such things in conversation, as they go along with the same-sex lifestyle, which -- as not being related to procreation -- is inherently eroticized and pornographic. He might expose other children to such things, as he might easily have encountered them in his household."

    --Do children of STRAIGHT couples bring something obscene or pornographic to school ?
    --Do children of STRAIGHT couples easily encounter obscene or pornographic things in their households ?
    --How many same sex households has the religious nut spent time in, in order to compile his data on the subject ?
    --With the epidemic of pedophile priests, the church is the last place anyone should look for moral advice and guidance, much less advice on caring for children.
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    Jun 10, 2010 1:03 PM GMT
    The writer is a college professor, which makes it even more baffling. Anyway, he regrets "some" or the things he wrote, after the controversy blew up on him.

    http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/06/10/firestorm_over_piece_on_gays_in_catholic_paper/
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    Jun 10, 2010 1:07 PM GMT


    Haha good one.

    They probably will to be honest, porn seems to factor much more in the life of gay men though.

    Just saying,
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    Jun 10, 2010 1:08 PM GMT
    Seriously, is he kidding? How many straight couples are swingers or participate in S and M?

    I knew a kindergarten kid whose Dad worked at Starship (a porn, erotic, sex store). The kid said it nonchalantly. The kid was also a normal kid who played chess with his father in their spare time. Should the other parents in the class have gotten up in arms thinking that their kids if they went over the kids house would turn on the t.v. and see porn that the Dad may have brought home?
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    Jun 10, 2010 1:11 PM GMT
    Of all the bullshit... Christ, I'd be more worried about kids getting into the liquor cabinet of a straight couple's house.
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    Jun 10, 2010 1:30 PM GMT
    Thisuserexists said

    Haha good one.

    They probably will to be honest, porn seems to factor much more in the life of gay men though.

    Just saying,


    Let me improve that: blabla bla "in the life of men". "Gay" is not the point.
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    Jun 10, 2010 1:38 PM GMT
    Lostboy said
    Thisuserexists said

    Haha good one.

    They probably will to be honest, porn seems to factor much more in the life of gay men though.

    Just saying,


    Let me improve that: blabla bla "in the life of men". "Gay" is not the point.


    Hey, just MY opinon, to which I'm entitled......

    bla blaa yourself!

    And it was quite obvious that my post was tongue in cheek.
  • rex099

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    Jun 10, 2010 1:56 PM GMT
    what i really love is the fact that when the guy complained to anyone in the church it seemed to me that the church said " mind your damn business". I mean the same-sex couple volunteered whenever the chance arose and the school had no problem with it. It being a, what im guessing is a prominent catholic school, it was nice to see the school somewhat defending the same-sex couple.
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    Jun 10, 2010 2:14 PM GMT
    Would be interesting if this was the same Parochial Archdiocese school that is down the street from me. The school, along with the Cathedral are right in the center of the South End (gay town). People are idiots.
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    Jun 10, 2010 2:31 PM GMT


    We oughtn't be surprised. Official Catholic doctrine defines homosexual inclinations as 'intrinsically disordered' and homosexual acts as 'acts of grave depravity'. (1997 Catholic Catechism, #2537 and #253icon_cool.gif

    The Church has evidently learned little from its sickening history of inhumanity and counterfactual propaganda - e.g. persecution of astronomers who dared posit that the universe does not orbit the earth.

    Perhaps in a few centuries the Church will follow the rational world into realizing that heterosexuality is not the only healthy flavor of sexual orientation.

    In the meantime, it is modestly heartening to see that many, many Catholics (including many parish priests in the US) are miles ahead of the Church's bureaucracy on this question - and many others.
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    Jun 10, 2010 2:34 PM GMT
    This is ridiculous. Firstly, Most gay parents I know are hyper concerned with keeping such materials out of reach of the children or even out of the home. Secondly, growing up I encountered much more porn in the homes of straight folks. The first porn mag I ever saw was when I was about 8yrs old and I am not talking playboy and penthouse....Those would be art compared to what I saw. People are truly crazy.
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    Jun 10, 2010 2:45 PM GMT
    Clearly, this professor believes he can understand gay people in the same way that the ancient Greeks believed they could understand the way the universe works: not by actually looking at any evidence, but just by THINKING about it. In his own mind, it logically follows that since gays don't use sex to procreate, they must be sex-obsessed all the time, especially around kids. No need to check this against reality, it's just pure logic!

    Sigh.
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    Jun 10, 2010 2:49 PM GMT
    Thisuserexists said

    Haha good one.

    They probably will to be honest, porn seems to factor much more in the life of gay men though.

    Just saying,


    then why is it that there is so much more straight porn produced than gay porn?
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    Jun 10, 2010 9:51 PM GMT
    Thisuserexists said

    Haha good one.

    They probably will to be honest, porn seems to factor much more in the life of gay men though.

    Just saying,


    Or your father could have had Playboy hanging around the house at all times. Mine did.
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    Jun 10, 2010 9:55 PM GMT
    Thisuserexists said
    Lostboy said
    Thisuserexists said

    Haha good one.

    They probably will to be honest, porn seems to factor much more in the life of gay men though.

    Just saying,


    Let me improve that: blabla bla "in the life of men". "Gay" is not the point.


    Hey, just MY opinon, to which I'm entitled......

    bla blaa yourself!


    hey hey hey.
    If you're going to quarrel doing the right way.... in a shallow pool filled with chocolate pudding.


    wait... isn't that something a heterosexual male is more likely to suggest to females? icon_confused.gif
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    Jun 10, 2010 9:59 PM GMT
    Sometimes the way these nut jobs THINK if we can call it that makes me wonder icon_confused.gif
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    Jun 10, 2010 10:00 PM GMT
    Thisuserexists said

    Haha good one.

    They probably will to be honest, porn seems to factor much more in the life of gay men though.

    Just saying,


    Or your father could have had Playboy hanging around the house at all times. Mine did.
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    Jun 10, 2010 10:21 PM GMT
    DjDorchester saidThe writer is a college professor, which makes it even more baffling. Anyway, he regrets "some" or the things he wrote, after the controversy blew up on him.

    http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/06/10/firestorm_over_piece_on_gays_in_catholic_paper/


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    In the column, Pakaluk also expressed concern that by welcoming gay families, Catholic schools could give children the impression that the practice of homosexuality is acceptable, as well as potentially provide an opportunity for a gay parent to “advocate for his lifestyle.’’ He added that gay parents should not be called “parents’’ unless they are biologically related to their children.
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    I'm sick of people saying that people "practice" homosexuality. Do they "practice" heterosexuality? I find it really offensive.

    I'm not practicing. I did not make a choice to be gay. And I'm not a sinner. I don't believe in that original sin nonsense. I don't care how many times adam had sex with eve....it had nothing to do with me.

    I'm sure that parents that adopt would really appreciate the last part of his statement.

    Here is where he is now:
    http://ipsciences.edu/pages/newsxtd/michael-pakaluk-ph.d.35.php

    I think that this is his facebook page:
    http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=543378726





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    Jun 10, 2010 10:28 PM GMT
    outsiderin said
    Thisuserexists said

    Haha good one.

    They probably will to be honest, porn seems to factor much more in the life of gay men though.

    Just saying,


    Or your father could have had Playboy hanging around the house at all times. Mine did.
    Yes. I was going to say that coming home from school I would get into my dad's straight porn. The same with other kids in the neighborhood whose fathers also had straight porn.. it was like straight porn show and tell .. Of course all that straight porn did not turn me straight.
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    Jun 10, 2010 10:32 PM GMT
    Kids who go to after-school parties at the homes of OPPOSITE-sex parents may encounter child molestation. So far I haven't heard or seen any documented cases of child molestation by same-sex parents.
  • KissTheSky

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    Jun 10, 2010 10:44 PM GMT
    I used to work in a bookstore that sold porn, and 98-99% of it was straight porn being sold to straight men -- mostly married. (I'm telling you, the horniest, least sexually-satisfied men in the world are straight, married men.)
    And we sold a TON of it. Not that there's anything wrong with it -- but the idea that only gay people are buying porn is BULLSHIT.
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    Jun 10, 2010 10:51 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidKids who go to after-school parties at the homes of OPPOSITE-sex parents may encounter child molestation. So far I haven't heard or seen any documented cases of child molestation by same-sex parents.
    You may be on to something there. Children going to church MAY be molested by their priests .. in the Boston Archdiocese!! icon_eek.gif:

    http://www.boston.com/globe/spotlight/abuse/extras/coverups_archive.htmA history of secrecy, coverups in Boston Archdiocese

    Church documents, official testimony, and victim interviews gathered over the past year paint an extraordinary picture of secrecy and deception in the Boston Archdiocese; a culture in which top church officials coddled abusive priests and permitted them to molest again, while stonewalling or paying off the victims of that abuse.

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    Jun 17, 2010 4:21 PM GMT
    Thisuserexists said

    Haha good one.

    They probably will to be honest, porn seems to factor much more in the life of gay men though.

    Just saying,


    To be frank, gay men DO have a far more nonchalant attitude towards porn than their straight counterparts. If only because they don't have women around to censor them/their activities.

    I mean, go to a London (or any UK) gay club and pick up one of the (several) free mags and it's cocks ahoy, escorts in the back pages, big stiffies poking out everywhere, and guys (including myself) glaze over as though they were reading The Guardian. You just don't get that in straight places (again, probably because of women, but that's besides the point).

    It raises a very fair point about gay men raising kids. To what extent do they censor their lives?

    And I'm completely FOR gay men having/adopting/raising kids by the way. It's just a point of relevance, in all fairness.

    I know I'm not ready for them yet. My boyfriend and I occassionally have to hide the porn/bin the scene mags when we have company!
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    Jun 17, 2010 4:22 PM GMT
    DjDorchester saidThe writer is a college professor, which makes it even more baffling. Anyway, he regrets "some" or the things he wrote, after the controversy blew up on him.

    http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/06/10/firestorm_over_piece_on_gays_in_catholic_paper/


    a perfect example of "book smart/real world stupid". icon_rolleyes.gif