2 Marines arrested in attack on gay man in Savannah

  • NashRugger

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    Jun 13, 2010 3:42 PM GMT
    Wow, these 2 give the USMC a bad name over something so stupid.

    SAVANNAH -- Two Marines were jailed Saturday on misdemeanor battery charges after they beat up a gay man they thought winked at them, according to Savannah-Chatham police.

    http://chronicle.augusta.com/latest-news/2010-06-13/2-marines-arrested-beating-gay-man-savannah?v=1276413021
  • DCEric

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    Jun 13, 2010 4:07 PM GMT
    One would think that they would have come up with a better story to tell police. Dumbasses.
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  • cowboyathlete

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    Jun 13, 2010 4:10 PM GMT
    What thugs. At that hour of the night/morning, why were the Marines out in the first place?
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    Jun 13, 2010 4:19 PM GMT
    Keep it classy Georgia. The comments are more disturbing.
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    Jun 13, 2010 4:20 PM GMT
    Daly said he came out six months ago and since has only received a few negative looks and comments. But Saturday's incident left him wondering whether the misdemeanor charge against his suspected attackers was enough.

    "It leaves me wondering why Georgia is one of five states that doesn't have a hate crime law on the state level," he said.


    shouldn't they face charges under the new federal hate crimes legistlation?
  • NashRugger

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    Jun 13, 2010 4:21 PM GMT
    Pinny saidKeep it classy Georgia. The comments are more disturbing.

    I didn't even bother reading them, people commenting on a newspaper website is filled with small mindedness and stupidity.
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    Jun 13, 2010 4:46 PM GMT
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    Jun 13, 2010 4:46 PM GMT
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    Pinny saidKeep it classy Georgia. The comments are more disturbing.

    I didn't even bother reading them, people commenting on a newspaper website is filled with small mindedness and stupidity.


    You're right about that... they write stuff they would never have the guts to say to your face
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    Jun 13, 2010 4:48 PM GMT
    Back in the '80s, marines posted to the DC Marines barracks, which are just a few blocks from a gay bar, used to actually invade the bar and beat patrons up and attack gays on the street.

    The DC gay community organized a big march to the barracks to protest and embarrass the Marines. The Marines immediately adopted an anti-gay-bashing policy. There was only one incident after that. And that marine was quickly discharged from the service.
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    Jun 13, 2010 4:51 PM GMT
    I've had Marines wink at me. I never beat them up.icon_eek.gif
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    Jun 13, 2010 5:02 PM GMT
    yeah one of the commenters on the main pages wrote and I quote "A wink is as good as a nod to a blind mule. I still remember when men were men and the sheep were nervous." that pretty much sums it up.

    Whether or not the marine at that particular post have issues with homophobia that's a different issue. I can attest (from my ex) that even in the Canadian army reserves there's a lot of homophobia, inside it's a pointless strive for proving themselves who is the top masculine figure, and they compete ruthlessly, homophobia is just one flavour. Unfortunately when the marines leave their military base and enter the real world, the readjustment is tough.
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    Jun 13, 2010 5:12 PM GMT
    The Marines I have "beaten' were moaning the whole time!.....Just sayin!...."Mary , Me thinks thou doth protest too much!?"icon_razz.gif
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    Jun 13, 2010 5:18 PM GMT
    Yeah, two hot hunky marines walking in what I assume is a gay area of Savannah at 3:45 in the morning don't expect to get noticed or approached (not saying the guy winked at them, just saying WTF!). What did they expect? Those guys were there looking for trouble and wanted to beat up a fag, that's the only reason they were there or they are latent homos and started getting that guilt and self hating feeling as they were leaving! They weren't drunk enough to allow themselves to get laid but were just drunk enough to beat somebody up because they hate who they really are! If DADT didn't exist teaching gays are bad in the military, these two could be in love and have stayed back in the barracks and had a romantic evening together like they wanted to. When will the madness stop?

    Hope the guy they attacked recovers quickly and they get the book thrown at them.

  • BIG_N_TALL

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    Jun 13, 2010 5:22 PM GMT
    I've gone on vacation down around the Parris Island area, or rather, one of the neighboring coastal islands near Parris Island. While down there, I swear I feel like I am on a USMC base - they are everywhere. Most of the time, they have that typical 'rough and tough' attitude towards everyone - only once did I have a marine smile back at me, and that was more of a courtesy I think. I DO THINK that you definitely shouldn't be a 'flaming homo' down around that area because of the HYPERmasculinity they've got going on. As for the winking thing, that is a typical response gay bashers give as a justification for beating up people they believe is gay. I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of the marines were gay, and are suffering from self-hate they took out on someone else.

    As for Savannah, it is undoubtedly one of the most boring places I've been to... Charleston is so much better. Savannah and Charleston are constantly getting compared and contrasted to one another, but in my opinion, Savannah isn't on the same page of the same book relative to Charleston. Savannah has made great strides in being more welcoming to "the gays," but it's definitely not a place a gay guy would feel welcoming or comfortable. Believe it or not, you'd feel more comfortable walking down a street in Charleston, SC than you would in Savannah, GA.
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    Jun 13, 2010 5:27 PM GMT
    Shortnsexystud saidIf DADT didn't exist teaching gays are bad in the military, these two could be in love and have stayed back in the barracks and had a romantic evening together like they wanted to. When will the madness stop?


    One thing about DADT- if they repeal it who will they devalue next?

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    Jun 13, 2010 5:31 PM GMT
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    These guys are HOT.... and they are wandering around the presumably 'gay' part of Savannah at 3-4am... and don't expect to have someone comment, in some fashion, on their looks??? Though I doubt that this is what happened...
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    Jun 13, 2010 5:38 PM GMT
    "Daly said one of the men told him he demanded respect because he served in Iraq."

    Ha! I've only met a few Iraq vets that I felt deserved any respect, whatsoever.
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    Jun 13, 2010 5:51 PM GMT
    reppaT said"Daly said one of the men told him he demanded respect because he served in Iraq."

    Ha! I've only met a few Iraq vets that I felt deserved any respect, whatsoever.


    “demand respect,” ha…if you have truly been there you don’t even talk about it.
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    Jun 13, 2010 6:14 PM GMT
    "It leaves me wondering why Georgia is one of five states that doesn't have a hate crime law on the state level,"

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  • fitartistsf

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    Jun 13, 2010 6:15 PM GMT
    Interesting... I went to the Art School there, Savannah College of Art & Design, from 1993 to 1997, and I remember that Savannah is a hub for the area in regards to clubs and bars... for the military...
    - about 45 minutes north you have the Marine Corps boot camp/depot, Parris Island. (yes, THAT Parris Island, famed in movie and TV...)
    - about 45 minutes south you have Ft. Stewart, the 2nd largest land training Army base in the country.
    - Right next door to Savannah you have Hunter Army Airfield, one of the largest army base airfields for personnel and materiel embarkations to the middle east.
    - Just at the border of Georgia and Florida, you have King's Bay Naval Submarine Base.
    Savannah was the place to go that was easy to reach, Atlanta being 5 hours north, one way.....

    I remember dating Army guys and a marine while at school there in Savannah. The one good club, Club One, on Jefferson St.(?) was THE club to go to for everyone. Although a gay club, since everyone came to Savannah to party, the club catered to everyone.
    Even when Lady Chablet(sp?) came to town to MC the drag shows, she ALWAYS prefaced the shows with, "your in OUR house tonight, so behave! If you don't like us, there's the door, motherfuckers!"
    Seems the tolerant days in Savannah are over.....
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    Jun 13, 2010 7:02 PM GMT
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    Well Gunny, Just i like responded to the hundreds of other messages like yours, which I feel people deserve to know what actaully happen then going off of that article which blew the hole thing wayyy out of proportion. My friend and the victim had the argument and I wasnt even around i was with his friend that was a girl, never saw anyone get hit or ever see the guy laying on the ground, and his friend told the cops that, as well as my friend telling the authorites and both of our c.o.'s i had nothing to do with it, it was all him i was just with him so i went to jail with him. It does give the Marines a black eye which i am very upset about it. Take care gunny, semper fi
  • NashRugger

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    Jun 13, 2010 7:09 PM GMT
    hmmm
  • coolarmydude

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    Jun 13, 2010 7:13 PM GMT
    Well I'm certainly glad I didn't do any winking when I was in Savannah two weeks ago. icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 13, 2010 7:15 PM GMT
    Pinny saidKeep it classy Georgia. The comments are more disturbing.


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    They guy said,"we cant be out and be gay on they street" no one wants to see them being gay on they street,those people need to learn we dont want them around us,so they should stop pushing to be where they are not wanted
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    Jun 13, 2010 7:19 PM GMT
    Here's my take:

    Two hot marines out on a date with each other in a gay section of town. Don't want to get caught or outed. Gay man acknowledges their gayness somehow and they feel threatened and lash out.