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    Jun 13, 2010 11:28 PM GMT


    POP QUEEN?

    What's GAGA?
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    Jun 14, 2010 4:32 AM GMT
    This is brilliant. PROOF for all those who claim Gaga is groundbreaking.

    Thanks for this!

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  • calibro

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    Jun 14, 2010 6:37 AM GMT
    umm... one, gaga never admitted she didn't use madonna's images as inspiration. two, just because madonna uses something doesn't mean she herself didn't take it from someone else. three, many of those things cannot be claimed to be copied (i didn't realize anytime some pushes play on a boom box in a music video that they're copying madonna). four, gaga uses many artists as inspiration, not just madonna. five, it's a fallacy to believe that you're not creative if you borrow from someone else considering madonna didn't invent everything but retooled them herself (i don't remember english professors complaining that joyce stole homer's vision of the odyssey for ulysses). six, gaga's version is far more complex and appealing than any original she appropriated from madonna.

    in summation, just because you did it first (and in many cases madonna wasn't the first to do it, just the only one you think of) doesn't mean you did it the best
  • barriehomeboy

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    Jun 14, 2010 7:03 AM GMT
    Did the space station grow out of the efforts to put a man on the moon? Did the moon shots happen because the USA chased the Russians into space? Do blacks have rights they didn't have because of Rosa Parks? Of course. Lady Gaga can only be who she is because of the ground laid by artists like Madonna. You don't think she consulted with Madonna when she developed her marketing plan? The artist we know as Lady Gaga did not suddenly burst out of a garage somewhere. Her rise to stardom is a case study for marketing students.
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    Jun 14, 2010 12:20 PM GMT
    Well, if we're gonna go exposing every person who ever copied someone else...
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    Jun 14, 2010 12:29 PM GMT
    This is absolutely brilliant! Most of us ages 30+ have been aware of Gaga's approach ... kind of dilutes the notion of Stefani being groundbreaking and original.

    Of course, I expect Gaga fans to crawl out of the woodwork and claim that she's a copycat, but it was purely intentional as a means of showing respect for her fellow entertainers. Ha!
  • dannyboy1101

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    Jun 14, 2010 1:18 PM GMT
    I know! Such copycats gaga and Madonna are. They act like huge innovators and shit and have the nerve to act like they are totally separate from w.a. Mozart. I mean shit anyone can see through their chord progressions that they are just stale talentless nobodies! They don't even acknowledge Mozart in any interviews or anything! What nerve!
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    Jun 14, 2010 4:22 PM GMT
    Um, Lady Gaga is a newcomer. She is NOT anything close to being Pop royalty. I'm sorry but some people act like before Lady GaGa, they lived in isolation and there was nothing they listened to.

    Britney Spears, on the other hand, has been around for almost 12 years and still rocking out #1's. QUEEN OF POP icon_smile.gif
  • calibro

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    Jun 14, 2010 4:25 PM GMT
    lest you forget how people claim madonna copied marilyn monroe

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    Jun 14, 2010 4:28 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidThis does not look any different when say MTV compiles clips of different artists' video for some type of commercial or "video mix." I am sure most of you know what I am talking about. You could do this with Britney, Chrissy and all the other bleached blondes running around.


    Britney has her own style, completely hers, and it is NOTHING like Madonna. Britney's inspiration are Madonna and Janet, but she does not copy their style.

    How is:
    Baby One More Time
    Oops! ...I Did it Again
    Slave 4 U
    Stronger
    Sometimes
    Toxic
    Me Against the Music
    Overprotected
    Lucky
    Gimme More
    Piece of Me
    Womanizer
    Circus
    If U Seek Amy
    Radar
    Everytime

    like Madonna? Woops, well except that Me Against the Music FEATURES Madonna.
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    Jun 14, 2010 4:34 PM GMT
    luvitohateit said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidThis does not look any different when say MTV compiles clips of different artists' video for some type of commercial or "video mix." I am sure most of you know what I am talking about. You could do this with Britney, Chrissy and all the other bleached blondes running around.


    Britney has her own style, completely hers, and it is NOTHING like Madonna. Britney's inspiration are Madonna and Janet, but she does not copy their style.

    How is:
    Baby One More Time
    Oops! ...I Did it Again
    Slave 4 U
    Stronger
    Sometimes
    Toxic
    Me Against the Music
    Overprotected
    Lucky
    Gimme More
    Piece of Me
    Womanizer
    Circus
    If U Seek Amy
    Radar
    Everytime

    like Madonna? Woops, well except that Me Against the Music FEATURES Madonna.


    one, we're not talking musically in this debate. two, even if we were, brittney would be a moot point since she doesn't write her own music (or at least the majority of it). three, artistically speaking, yes, she does copy lots of people-- madonna and many eighties artists in particular.
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    calibro said
    luvitohateit said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidThis does not look any different when say MTV compiles clips of different artists' video for some type of commercial or "video mix." I am sure most of you know what I am talking about. You could do this with Britney, Chrissy and all the other bleached blondes running around.


    Britney has her own style, completely hers, and it is NOTHING like Madonna. Britney's inspiration are Madonna and Janet, but she does not copy their style.

    How is:
    Baby One More Time
    Oops! ...I Did it Again
    Slave 4 U
    Stronger
    Sometimes
    Toxic
    Me Against the Music
    Overprotected
    Lucky
    Gimme More
    Piece of Me
    Womanizer
    Circus
    If U Seek Amy
    Radar
    Everytime

    like Madonna? Woops, well except that Me Against the Music FEATURES Madonna.


    one, we're not talking musically in this debate. two, even if we were, brittney would be a moot point since she doesn't write her own music (or at least the majority of it). three, artistically speaking, yes, she does copy lots of people-- madonna and many eighties artists in particular.


    Xceptntrly. Britney has written some of her biggest hits, and majority of both Circus AND In The Zone albums, tons of unreleased material, and executive produced Blackout, one of the most influencial pop albums of the last decade (an album that introduced the new modern electronic sounds you hear today like Ke$ha, GaGa, Xtina - but released in 2007). And as I mentioned, Britney is influenced by many artists before her (Madonna, Janet, to name a few), but she does not try to dress like them, act like them, etc.

    I LOVE GaGa's music (have both of her albums), but you have to be a pretty big fame whore to go to your sister's graduation dressed as "Lady GaGa" and not your true self.

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    Jun 14, 2010 5:03 PM GMT
    luvitohateit said


    Xceptntrly. Britney has written some of her biggest hits, and majority of both Circus AND In The Zone albums, tons of unreleased material, and executive produced Blackout, one of the most influencial pop albums of the last decade (an album that introduced the new modern electronic sounds you hear today like Ke$ha, GaGa, Xtina - but released in 2007). And as I mentioned, Britney is influenced by many artists before her (Madonna, Janet, to name a few), but she does not try to dress like them, act like them, etc.

    I LOVE GaGa's music (have both of her albums), but you have to be a pretty big fame whore to go to your sister's graduation dressed as "Lady GaGa" and not your true self.



    i have no idea what you mean when you spell words incorrectly, such as "Xceptntrly," so please refrain from sounding like a twelve-year old on myspace. second, she doesn't write hits and hardly wrote even close to a majority of her songs: she co-wrote three songs on circus and three songs on blackout, none of which were big hits and she worked with many people on them. all of gaga's songs have been written in part by her. and i wouldn't call blackout one of the most influential pop albums of the decade. if anything, cher's single "do you believe" changed the world of pop with autotune and even artists like gwen stefani produced albums that were way more paving than blackout. umm, where you even alive when sinead went all bald? brittney is a tool of management and she is hardly unique. and finally, last i heard gaga's sister doesn't mind so why should you?
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    Jun 14, 2010 5:14 PM GMT
    calibro said
    luvitohateit said


    Xceptntrly. Britney has written some of her biggest hits, and majority of both Circus AND In The Zone albums, tons of unreleased material, and executive produced Blackout, one of the most influencial pop albums of the last decade (an album that introduced the new modern electronic sounds you hear today like Ke$ha, GaGa, Xtina - but released in 2007). And as I mentioned, Britney is influenced by many artists before her (Madonna, Janet, to name a few), but she does not try to dress like them, act like them, etc.

    I LOVE GaGa's music (have both of her albums), but you have to be a pretty big fame whore to go to your sister's graduation dressed as "Lady GaGa" and not your true self.



    i have no idea what you mean when you spell words incorrectly, such as "Xceptntrly," so please refrain from sounding like a twelve-year old on myspace. second, she doesn't write hits. she co-wrote three songs on circus and three songs on blackout, none of which were big hits and she worked with many people on them. all of gaga's songs have been written in part by her. and i wouldn't call blackout one of the most influential pop albums of the decade. if anything, cher's single "do you believe" changed the world of pop with autotune and even artists like gwen stefani produced albums that were way more paving than blackout. umm, where you even alive when sinead went all bald? brittney is a tool of management and she is hardly unique. and finally, last i heard gaga's sister doesn't mind so why should you?


    Britney***, not Brittney.

    Xceptntrly = except not really, a term used widely on the internet, ex = RealJock.com

    It's your opinion to think Blackout is not one of the most influencial albums of the last decade, but hmmm, apparently it is since producers time after time after time have said this, including pretty much every musical review out there, Billboard.com, Billboard end-of-the-decade lists, and so on and on. Britney doesn't write hits?
    Hah!
    Me Against the Music - one of her biggest hits with Madonna.
    Everytime - one of her biggest hits.
    Someday (I Will Understand)
    Outrageous
    to just name a few.

    And Cher's Do You Believe was very influencial, but Blackout is not all about the autotune. Blackout is a mix of autotune style, eletropop at its best with urban beats. Britney might have been going through a breakdown during the time, but she did produce the album in its entirety. The album was named the 5th "Best Pop Album of the Decade" by The Times, the 7th-best album of the decade on the Rolling Stones "The Decade-End Readers’ Poll", and the 3rd Best Album of the decade on the Billboard "Readers Poll", and won "Album of the Year" at the MTV Europe Music Awards 2008. OBVIOUSLY, Blackout has had influence when prior to its release only a handful of artists used the style. Today? Check out songs like Bad Romance, Telephone (a song written for Britney), Monster, Pokerface, Ke$ha's whole album, again, just to name a few.
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    Jun 14, 2010 5:19 PM GMT
    Mark my words, she's got a plan and it's smarter than most who have come before her. Derivative or not, she's very likely to surprise everyone with something more. She's not everybody's cup of tea, and at times I grow very tired of her and the hype around her. Still, call me crazy - and you will - but one day you'll be saying the phrase "Oscar nominated actress Lady Gaga". Get used to the idea now, boys.
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    Jun 14, 2010 5:34 PM GMT
    luvitohateit said
    calibro said
    luvitohateit said




    Xceptntrly = except not really, a term used widely on the internet, ex = RealJock.com

    It's your opinion to think Blackout is not one of the most influencial albums of the last decade, but hmmm, apparently it is since producers time after time after time have said this, including pretty much every musical review out there, Billboard.com, Billboard end-of-the-decade lists, and so on and on. Britney doesn't write hits?
    Hah!
    Me Against the Music - one of her biggest hits with Madonna.
    Everytime - one of her biggest hits.
    Someday (I Will Understand)
    Outrageous
    to just name a few.

    And Cher's Do You Believe was very influencial, but Blackout is not all about the autotune. Blackout is a mix of autotune style, eletropop at its best with urban beats. Britney might have been going through a breakdown during the time, but she did produce the album in its entirety. The album was named the 5th "Best Pop Album of the Decade" by The Times, the 7th-best album of the decade on the Rolling Stones "The Decade-End Readers’ Poll", and the 3rd Best Album of the decade on the Billboard "Readers Poll", and won "Album of the Year" at the MTV Europe Music Awards 2008. OBVIOUSLY, Blackout has had influence when prior to its release only a handful of artists used the style. Today? Check out songs like Bad Romance, Telephone (a song written for Britney), Monster, Pokerface, Ke$ha's whole album, again, just to name a few.


    you can take as many vowels out of words as you want, but it still makes you look like an idiot. second, i see you backed off your claim that she wrote the majority of her songs (and as far as her hits go, those are the bottom of the barrel). third, this is what the other critics had to say about her album...

    However, there were also negative reviews. Newsday titled its review "Save your money" and called the album "terrible."[27] Billboard stated "This is still pop, but the last bits of Spears's song-and-dance girl veneer are cracking, along with the rest of her public persona."[28] Other reviews noted the overwhelming presence of "studio trickery" had the effect of making her sound like a "Brit Bot." "If a blow-up sex doll could sing, this is what she'd sound like," wrote critic Jim Farber. "In terms of studio trickery, Paris Hilton's album [Paris] was practically 'unplugged' compared to this."[29] PopMatters was unimpressed with the album as well, writing, "Right down to its utterly garish cover, Blackout is utterly disposable and ultimately forgettable."[30] The New York Times wrote that she "cuts a startlingly low profile on Blackout, and there are times when it scarcely sounds like a Britney Spears album at all. Even when not buried in electronics, her distinctive singing voice sounds unusually vague, and sometimes it's hard to be sure it's hers".[31] The Hartford Courant was very negative in their review, saying that "there's a lackluster vocal or element of unintentional comedy that makes you wonder how much better Blackout might be as an instrumental club album".

    and finally, stop, stop, stop saying things that are untrue. you clearly know nothing about pop music prior to the late nineties so do not insist brittney inspired all those people you named. they were all done long before brittney came to the scene both musically and thematically.
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    Jun 14, 2010 5:48 PM GMT
    Whether or not who copied who, Lady Gaga is a creeper. Madonna is a visionary pop artist, who paved the way for many other pop artists of this era, which fits perfectly with her name, taken from "Prima donna", Italian for 'First Lady'.
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    calibro said
    luvitohateit said
    calibro said
    luvitohateit said




    Xceptntrly = except not really, a term used widely on the internet, ex = RealJock.com

    It's your opinion to think Blackout is not one of the most influencial albums of the last decade, but hmmm, apparently it is since producers time after time after time have said this, including pretty much every musical review out there, Billboard.com, Billboard end-of-the-decade lists, and so on and on. Britney doesn't write hits?
    Hah!
    Me Against the Music - one of her biggest hits with Madonna.
    Everytime - one of her biggest hits.
    Someday (I Will Understand)
    Outrageous
    to just name a few.

    And Cher's Do You Believe was very influencial, but Blackout is not all about the autotune. Blackout is a mix of autotune style, eletropop at its best with urban beats. Britney might have been going through a breakdown during the time, but she did produce the album in its entirety. The album was named the 5th "Best Pop Album of the Decade" by The Times, the 7th-best album of the decade on the Rolling Stones "The Decade-End Readers’ Poll", and the 3rd Best Album of the decade on the Billboard "Readers Poll", and won "Album of the Year" at the MTV Europe Music Awards 2008. OBVIOUSLY, Blackout has had influence when prior to its release only a handful of artists used the style. Today? Check out songs like Bad Romance, Telephone (a song written for Britney), Monster, Pokerface, Ke$ha's whole album, again, just to name a few.


    you can take as many vowels out of words as you want, but it still makes you look like an idiot. second, i see you backed off your claim that she wrote the majority of her songs (and as far as her hits go, those are the bottom of the barrel). third, this is what the other critics had to say about her album...

    However, there were also negative reviews. Newsday titled its review "Save your money" and called the album "terrible."[27] Billboard stated "This is still pop, but the last bits of Spears's song-and-dance girl veneer are cracking, along with the rest of her public persona."[28] Other reviews noted the overwhelming presence of "studio trickery" had the effect of making her sound like a "Brit Bot." "If a blow-up sex doll could sing, this is what she'd sound like," wrote critic Jim Farber. "In terms of studio trickery, Paris Hilton's album [Paris] was practically 'unplugged' compared to this."[29] PopMatters was unimpressed with the album as well, writing, "Right down to its utterly garish cover, Blackout is utterly disposable and ultimately forgettable."[30] The New York Times wrote that she "cuts a startlingly low profile on Blackout, and there are times when it scarcely sounds like a Britney Spears album at all. Even when not buried in electronics, her distinctive singing voice sounds unusually vague, and sometimes it's hard to be sure it's hers".[31] The Hartford Courant was very negative in their review, saying that "there's a lackluster vocal or element of unintentional comedy that makes you wonder how much better Blackout might be as an instrumental club album".

    and finally, stop, stop, stop saying things that are untrue. you clearly know nothing about pop music prior to the late nineties so do not insist brittney inspired all those people you named. they were all done long before brittney came to the scene both musically and thematically.


    Who is this Brittney you keep referring to?

    Anyway, I do not know much about Pop music PRIOR to mid-late nineties because I wasn't old enough to know much about music (and I never insisted I know about it), but I do know about the influence Britney has had on pop music since her start and still to this day. And um, check how many times I've said Britney HAS had influence from MANY MANY artists before her, but you are making yourself look like an "idiot" by ignoring what I have said, but oh well.

    As far as the negative Blackout reviews goes, obviously everything is going to have people who will not like it, but since MAJORITY of the reviews have been positive for the album and that the album has been featured on majority of "best pop albums of the decade" list, there is not much more said. FACTS don't lie.

    And actually, I did not back off my argument about some of Britney's biggest hits were written by her and I named them (but your eyes might've stopped working for a few moments). Bottom of the barrel? Girl, please. Me Against the Music and Everytime are two of her biggest hits ever. OBVIOUSLY you don't know enough about the state of the pop music industry circa 2000+. Thanks to Britney, the VMAs are what they are today. Try to go against this statement and I will show u proof after proof of how much Britney means to the VMAs, one of the biggest musical events of the year.

    And girl, LOL @ you trying to attack my intelligence and call me an idiot because I am stating facts. I am not trying to say Britney is anything she is not. Girl has had immense influence on the pop music I HAVE COME TO KNOW SINCE I GREW UP (AGAIN IN CAPS SO THAT YOUR EYES SEE IT WIDE AND CLEAR). After a VERY public breakdown, still DEBUTING at #1 while Lady GaGa, despite her very good music and extreme amount of fame whoring, has failed to score a #1 album.

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    Jun 14, 2010 6:15 PM GMT
    alan07 saidWhether or not who copied who, Lady Gaga is a creeper. Madonna is a visionary pop artist, who paved the way for many other pop artists of this era, which fits perfectly with her name, taken from "Prima donna", Italian for 'First Lady'.


    again, madonna didn't invent everything. she copied the likes of monroe and cher amongst many others.
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    Jun 14, 2010 6:21 PM GMT
    luvitohateit said

    Who is this Brittney you keep referring to?

    Anyway, I do not know much about Pop music PRIOR to mid-late nineties because I wasn't old enough to know much about music (and I never insisted I know about it), but I do know about the influence Britney has had on pop music since her start and still to this day. And um, check how many times I've said Britney HAS had influence from MANY MANY artists before her, but you are making yourself look like an "idiot" by ignoring what I have said, but oh well.

    As far as the negative Blackout reviews goes, obviously everything is going to have people who will not like it, but since MAJORITY of the reviews have been positive for the album and that the album has been featured on majority of "best pop albums of the decade" list, there is not much more said. FACTS don't lie.

    And actually, I did not back off my argument about some of Britney's biggest hits were written by her and I named them (but your eyes might've stopped working for a few moments). Bottom of the barrel? Girl, please. Me Against the Music and Everytime are two of her biggest hits ever. OBVIOUSLY you don't know enough about the state of the pop music industry circa 2000+. Thanks to Britney, the VMAs are what they are today. Try to go against this statement and I will show u proof after proof of how much Britney means to the VMAs, one of the biggest musical events of the year.

    And girl, LOL @ you trying to attack my intelligence and call me an idiot because I am stating facts. I am not trying to say Britney is anything she is not. Girl has had immense influence on the pop music I HAVE COME TO KNOW SINCE I GREW UP (AGAIN IN CAPS SO THAT YOUR EYES SEE IT WIDE AND CLEAR). After a VERY public breakdown, still DEBUTING at #1 while Lady GaGa, despite her very good music and extreme amount of fame whoring, has failed to score a #1 album.


    one, if you admit you know little about pop music before the late nineties, you really shouldn't talk about a thread about pop artists and where they originate from. two, i never said britney didn't have a successful career, but rather she copied many artists herself, she didn't write the majority of her songs or hits (the hits you list are the bottom of the barrel compared to her bigger hits), and that blackout isn't a god amongst albums (it has a metacritic score of 61/100).

    The VMAs is hardly one of the biggest music events of the year and you thinking that just shows how you view music: you are trapped in a pop world with no conception of what came before or what lies outside of it.

    And yes, I will attack your intelligence when you fail to write a coherent sentence. Finally, it's a fallacy to assume a number one album equates success and not having a number one doesn't. Until Womanizer, britney had only one number one single (the other was hit me baby one more time, which means it took her 10 years to have two number one hits)... but surely she has been a commercial success in the in-between time.

    and now i am bored of this and am going to talk about football.
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    Jun 14, 2010 6:35 PM GMT
    Still like her. Not much you can do about that.
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    calibro said
    luvitohateit said

    Who is this Brittney you keep referring to?

    Anyway, I do not know much about Pop music PRIOR to mid-late nineties because I wasn't old enough to know much about music (and I never insisted I know about it), but I do know about the influence Britney has had on pop music since her start and still to this day. And um, check how many times I've said Britney HAS had influence from MANY MANY artists before her, but you are making yourself look like an "idiot" by ignoring what I have said, but oh well.

    As far as the negative Blackout reviews goes, obviously everything is going to have people who will not like it, but since MAJORITY of the reviews have been positive for the album and that the album has been featured on majority of "best pop albums of the decade" list, there is not much more said. FACTS don't lie.

    And actually, I did not back off my argument about some of Britney's biggest hits were written by her and I named them (but your eyes might've stopped working for a few moments). Bottom of the barrel? Girl, please. Me Against the Music and Everytime are two of her biggest hits ever. OBVIOUSLY you don't know enough about the state of the pop music industry circa 2000+. Thanks to Britney, the VMAs are what they are today. Try to go against this statement and I will show u proof after proof of how much Britney means to the VMAs, one of the biggest musical events of the year.

    And girl, LOL @ you trying to attack my intelligence and call me an idiot because I am stating facts. I am not trying to say Britney is anything she is not. Girl has had immense influence on the pop music I HAVE COME TO KNOW SINCE I GREW UP (AGAIN IN CAPS SO THAT YOUR EYES SEE IT WIDE AND CLEAR). After a VERY public breakdown, still DEBUTING at #1 while Lady GaGa, despite her very good music and extreme amount of fame whoring, has failed to score a #1 album.


    one, if you admit you know little about pop music before the late nineties, you really shouldn't talk about a thread about pop artists and where they originate from. two, i never said britney didn't have a successful career, but rather she copied many artists herself, she didn't write the majority of her songs or hits (the hits you list are the bottom of the barrel compared to her bigger hits), and that blackout isn't a god album (it has a metacritic score of 61/100).

    The VMAs is hardly one of the biggest music events of the year and you thinking that just shows how you view music: you are trapped in a pop world with no conception of what came before or what lies outside of it.

    And yes, I will attack your intelligence when you fail to write a coherent sentence. Finally, it's a fallacy to assume a number equates success and not having a number one doesn't. Until Womanizer, britney had only one number one single... but surely she has been a commercial success in the in-between time.

    and now i am bored of this and am going to talk about football.


    LOL @ you thinking VMAs is not one of the biggest music events of the year. We are talking about Pop music, buddy, so my views are experessed ONLY on pop music in this thread. Blackout, as I said before, recieved negative reviews, as does any other album (See Mariah's Emancipation of Mimi), but it still placed on many best album of the decade lists, a fact you can't argue.

    I can talk about Pop music all I want since we are talking about artists POPular right now, and discussing an artist who is POPular right NOW, Lady Gaga. So your comment about my pre-ninties pop knowledge is irrelevant like most of your arguments.

    You will attack my intelligence when I fail to write a coherent sentence? hah. I said ONE word that is used widely on the internet, but since your arguments against Britney are not strong enough (no matter how hard you try), you use that against me.

    Yep, Britney did not have a #1 after Baby One More Time until Womanizer - her first song AFTER her breakdown. Big statement right there. The power of Britney.

    I bet you did not know Britney was banned from Radio from 2001 to 2005 because her label made a deal with Pepsi rather than Clear Channel for her tour promotion. That has a lot to do with the success of Britney's single chart positions during that time (yet she managed many top 20 singles, and a top ten song during that era)...Just because Britney has had only 3 #1 singles (with the latest debuting at #1), does not mean her albums did not sell. With 85+ million albums sold world wide, she is the best selling female artist of the decade. Oh and her albums have always sold out of this world (except Blackout, which came out on the height of her breakdown with 0 promotion and still has sold 3.5+ million copies world wide and two platinum singles). Oops! I Did it Again debuted with over 1.3 million albums sold in ONE week, Britney, In The Zone around 700,000 copies first week, Blackout around 300,000, and Circus around 550,000 copies in its first week.

    As you said, numbers do not show much, but since you brought up Britney's #1's, I must insist on bringing them up for you.

    Let's not forget Lady Gaga saying one of her influences IS Britney Spears. LOL.

    Anyway, I think I have presented enough facts on my posts in this thread for a blind man to realize who the real Pop royalty is, but delusional GaGa stans keep blabbing as always haha. PWND.

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    P.S. nice "intelligent" source of information, Wikipedia hahah.
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    Jun 14, 2010 6:58 PM GMT
    Gaga is not an innovator, but she is definitely breathing new life into the genre, despite it being recycled or not. You can either enjoy her or not, either way I just think people need to find better uses for their time than reposting this.
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    Jun 14, 2010 7:18 PM GMT
    I love both of them. And it's pretty obvious Gaga ripped of some of Madonna. But who the hell hasn't? I mean she's freakin legend. But Gaga got some of her own moves too, so it balances it out. The comparison that really ticks me off is Gaga and Christina Aguilera. Christina might have ripped off Madonna, but not Gaga. No offence to Gaga and I love her and all, she hasn't been in the business long enough to be ripped off.

    Anyway, they all got huge cajones if you ask me.
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    Jun 14, 2010 10:39 PM GMT
    calibro said
    alan07 saidWhether or not who copied who, Lady Gaga is a creeper. Madonna is a visionary pop artist, who paved the way for many other pop artists of this era, which fits perfectly with her name, taken from "Prima donna", Italian for 'First Lady'.


    again, madonna didn't invent everything. she copied the likes of monroe and cher amongst many others.


    I didn't say she invented anything, I said that she paved the way for many of the pop artists today, including Lady Gaga. But what I was saying was that to compare Lady Gaga to Madonna would be like comparing a a trailer to a mansion - there's just no comparison. Yes, Madonna stole things from other people, but atleast she did it tactfully, and appealed to many, while Lady Gaga is just a fad for creepers.