CNN - In America - Gary & Tony Have A Baby - Set your TV to record it. :)

  • metta

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    Jun 14, 2010 8:38 PM GMT
    Set your DVR, VCR or what ever device you use to record it so you don't forget it. icon_smile.gif

    CNN - In America - Gary & Tony Have A Baby

    Date:Thursday, June 24, 2010
    Time: 8:00pm - 10:00pm Eastern Time
    Location: CNN 8pm Eastern Time hosted by Soledad O'Brien



    http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/living/2010/05/14/gary.tony.trailer.cnn.html

    Tell your friends to record it. It is not often that the mainstream media covers our families:
    http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=118568761520144
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    Jun 15, 2010 12:23 AM GMT
    A child is best served having a mother influence and a father influence.
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    Jun 15, 2010 12:36 AM GMT
    A child is best served having a great PARENT.
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    Jun 15, 2010 12:37 AM GMT
    ErikTaurean saidA child is best served having a great PARENT.


    Agreed!
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    Jun 15, 2010 12:41 AM GMT
    ErikTaurean saidA child is best served having a great PARENT.


    Nope parentS. A gay male can not offer a child the nurture of a mother. I am not saying a child cant be raised into a successful adult by a single mother b/c that would be foolish but a child without doubt is best served having a father and a mother. Two gays only confuses matters. Sorry!


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    Jun 15, 2010 12:49 AM GMT
    You are indeed entitled to your opinion, but consider this:

    Study after study after study shows that children in same sex households fair no worse than children raised in opposite sex households. Yes, there are greater advantages to being raised in a 2 parent household, but to say that if there must be single parent households and that single parent should be a woman is ludicrous. Men, both from society and from themselves, have bought into the whole notion that to be a man, you have to be unfeeling. It is about as ludicrous as saying on a woman can teach a girl about being a woman and only a man can teach a boy about being a man.
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    Jun 15, 2010 12:51 AM GMT
    PAstud21 said
    ErikTaurean saidA child is best served having a great PARENT.


    Nope parentS. A gay male can not offer a child the nurture of a mother. I am not saying a child cant be raised into a successful adult by a single mother b/c that would be foolish but a child without doubt is best served having a father and a mother. Two gays only confuses matters. Sorry!




    I think as long as there is a loving, caring parent, then a child can be raised well. As far as "requiring" a mother as you put it, while there is evidence to prove that breast milk has lots of long term health benefits, as far as the actual raising of a child, a mother isn't necessarily required. There are lots of single dads as well as gay couples that have raised and are raising very successful children.
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    Jun 15, 2010 12:52 AM GMT
    PAstud21 said
    ErikTaurean saidA child is best served having a great PARENT.


    Nope parentS. A gay male can not offer a child the nurture of a mother. I am not saying a child cant be raised into a successful adult by a single mother b/c that would be foolish but a child without doubt is best served having a father and a mother. Two gays only confuses matters. Sorry!


    Your opinion is noted. That said, you may want to look into the actual research that's been done on this topic, since the results of that research don't support your opinion.

    Even if you found your family confusing (don't we all!) I bet you would be thrilled to have them if the alternative were having no family at all.
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    Jun 15, 2010 12:55 AM GMT
    PAstud21 said
    ErikTaurean saidA child is best served having a great PARENT.


    Nope parentS. A gay male can not offer a child the nurture of a mother. I am not saying a child cant be raised into a successful adult by a single mother b/c that would be foolish but a child without doubt is best served having a father and a mother. Two gays only confuses matters. Sorry!






    you make me sick. that is all.
  • creature

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    Jun 15, 2010 2:08 AM GMT
    PAstud21,

    Would you mind further explaining why a child is best served by having a male and female parent?

    The "influence" as you call it is based on socially designated gender roles. Men and women are equally nurturing. Aside from breast-feeding, what else does a woman offer that a man cannot provide?



    Is this nurturing to you?
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    Jun 15, 2010 3:05 AM GMT
    PAstud21 said
    ErikTaurean saidA child is best served having a great PARENT.


    Nope parentS. A gay male can not offer a child the nurture of a mother. I am not saying a child cant be raised into a successful adult by a single mother b/c that would be foolish but a child without doubt is best served having a father and a mother. Two gays only confuses matters. Sorry!




    I have a bachelor degree in child development... and all I am going to say is... I respectfully disagree icon_smile.gif

    Sorry buddy - just take a look at some research (I have).

    Next topic? icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 15, 2010 3:08 AM GMT
    PAstud21 said
    ErikTaurean saidA child is best served having a great PARENT.


    Nope parentS. A gay male can not offer a child the nurture of a mother. I am not saying a child cant be raised into a successful adult by a single mother b/c that would be foolish but a child without doubt is best served having a father and a mother. Two gays only confuses matters. Sorry!


    You have some serious deep seated issues..
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    Jun 15, 2010 3:21 AM GMT
    PAstud21 said
    ErikTaurean saidA child is best served having a great PARENT.


    Nope parentS. A gay male can not offer a child the nurture of a mother. I am not saying a child cant be raised into a successful adult by a single mother b/c that would be foolish but a child without doubt is best served having a father and a mother. Two gays only confuses matters. Sorry!




    I do not respect your opinion. No offense.

    Do you know any children raised by two gay men? By lesbians? Are they incredibly deviant children, are they confused? I'm curious what led you to this opinion.

    You should look into reading some Dan Savage, his books are funny, touching, and shed some light on misconceptions that people seem to have about this topic.
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    Jun 15, 2010 3:29 AM GMT
    PAstud21 said
    ErikTaurean saidA child is best served having a great PARENT.


    Nope parentS. A gay male can not offer a child the nurture of a mother. I am not saying a child cant be raised into a successful adult by a single mother b/c that would be foolish but a child without doubt is best served having a father and a mother. Two gays only confuses matters. Sorry!




    study after study has disproved that. can you please elaborate how you came to that conclusion?
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    Jun 15, 2010 3:32 AM GMT
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    PAstud21 said
    ErikTaurean saidA child is best served having a great PARENT.


    Nope parentS. A gay male can not offer a child the nurture of a mother. I am not saying a child cant be raised into a successful adult by a single mother b/c that would be foolish but a child without doubt is best served having a father and a mother. Two gays only confuses matters. Sorry!




    I do not respect your opinion. No offense.

    Do you know any children raised by two gay men? By lesbians? Are they incredibly deviant children, are they confused? I'm curious what led you to this opinion.

    You should look into reading some Dan Savage, his books are funny, touching, and shed some light on misconceptions that people seem to have about this topic.



    You are bloody hot jlly_rnchr!!!icon_redface.gif
  • metta

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    Jun 15, 2010 6:25 PM GMT
    In related news there is a new study about gay dads that says among other things:

    Gay Dad's Study
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    "Many of these gay fathers negotiated their career prospects downward and focused on their parenting responsibilities as being primary, at least for the time being while their children were so young," the study found. "This is in sharp contrast to heterosexual fathers, who often augment their work hours and career commitments after having children."

    However, the dads who were working said they were getting along better with their coworkers, because they were able to share parenting experiences.

    The gay fathers also reported that overall, their relationships with extended family members improved. That's partly because the arrival of a baby cemented the dads as "couples."

    95 percent of the dads said that having a baby made them feel good about themselves, and virtually all of the dads reported an increase in self-esteem.
    [/quote]

    http://www.chicagopride.com/news/article.cfm/articleid/11312500
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    Jun 15, 2010 6:28 PM GMT
    PAstud21 saidA child is best served having a mother influence and a father influence.

    I'll bite since I am the forum cunt and blatantly call you one of the dumbest fuckers ever. It helps to read before you spew the verbal diarrhea that you just typed. Study after study of endless testing shows that a child is raised no better by heteros than gays and in fact just two weeks ago we saw the study promoting Lesbians as the best.

    What absolute idiotic garbage. Even Christian child's psychologist don't refute the data.

    Please, continue to internalize your homophobia.
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    Jun 15, 2010 6:38 PM GMT
    PAstud21,
    Your census bureau's statistics show that as of Nov 2009 there were aprox. 13-14 million single parents raising more than 21 million children in the US today. Guess how many are gay parents? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 15, 2010 6:41 PM GMT
    Is it ironic that most of us are in love with MiL
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    Jun 15, 2010 6:42 PM GMT
    PAstud21 saidA child is best served having a mother influence and a father influence.


    It's always fascinating to see how archaic cultural prescription and esoteric theological premises influence modern attitudes about gender roles. Naturally, without any regard to the facts. icon_razz.gif
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    Jun 15, 2010 6:45 PM GMT
    You guys are all arguing with a faceless torso? Why would you think that his opinion on something "gay" is valid in any way, shape or form? He is obviously so ashamed of being gay that he can't even show his face on a gay website.

    I for one know that a mother and a father who don't give a shit can be worse then having one parent that really cares.... I can site examples from my family and text books if you like, but i think its unnecessary considering the person who made the idiotic post in the first place.

    Thanks for the information on this being on cnn metta8.
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    Jun 15, 2010 6:50 PM GMT
    My children have 2 dads. They are well adjusted, responsible, compassionate people. One is now a teenager and at the age where parental units embarrass the heck out her. So we provide that embarrassment. If it weren't for having 2 dads, I'm sure it would be something else that would embarrass her. It's the age, not the parents. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 15, 2010 7:20 PM GMT
    PAstud21 said
    ErikTaurean saidA child is best served having a great PARENT.


    Nope parentS. A gay male can not offer a child the nurture of a mother. I am not saying a child cant be raised into a successful adult by a single mother b/c that would be foolish but a child without doubt is best served having a father and a mother. Two gays only confuses matters. Sorry!




    Wow!

    PAStud21: The wheel's spinning, but the hamster's dead.

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    Jun 15, 2010 8:22 PM GMT
    PA don't you have a TeaBag conference to get to.
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    Jun 15, 2010 8:40 PM GMT
    a child is best served with ketchup