Has anyone had a hair transplant?

  • Regina_Guy

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    Jun 15, 2010 9:17 PM GMT
    Just wondering if anyone has had a hair transplant recently? Over the past couple of years, my hairline has really receded. It is something that really bothers me, because I'm not the type of guy who looks good shaved.

    I've been thinking seriously about it for a year now, and I've heard both good and bad. I've never spoken to anyone who has actually had it done. if anyone could provide some feedback from their experiences, I would really appreciate it!
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    Jun 16, 2010 1:22 AM GMT

    A couple I met on Thanksgiving 4 yrs ago at a friends house took three trips to have hair restored in Sao Paulo Brazil. They went to this guy in Sao Paulo Brazil Dr. Massimo Cesanna he has a web site and is very very inexpensive. You can use the word cheap! But he is considered one of the Best in the World.

    I was thinking about doing what these guy did by flying to Sao Paulo. His work is amazing and I mean amazing.

    I had a close friend do major hair restoration by the Boston Group in Boston. He had three sessions total of 3000 micro implants for $15,000.00 looks like shit and major cat tracks on the back of his head where they took the hair.

    By comparison the guys that went to Dr. Massimo Cesanna had 6000 micro implants for $6000.00 and have an amazing full head of hair and I mean full. I did extensive checking and found that he is considered best in World by others that do the same restoration. Some of these guys charge as much as 4 times more. He does pubic hair restoration.....just saying icon_eek.gif

    It has been two years since I talked to these guys but one did go back for a little more hair last year so I am told by our mutual friends.

    I did talk to a lot of Dr Cessanna's patients here in the States. Many had the first set of implants done here and switched to Cessanna because they didn't like the work that was done for the amount of money.

    What ever you do do your homework well and not only check out the Doctor put his patients. The Doctor can be great but it is the great team you want in this process.
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    Jun 16, 2010 1:30 AM GMT
    I had my hairline rebuilt a month and a half ago (yeah hence...all the pictures where I'm wearing a cap recently). I had it done in Mexico for cheap (I had...3500 implants? haggled down to $3500). Process isn't too painful, takes like 7 hours (they dissect a strip of your scalp from the back of your head, which is the donor area, and use those micro grafts on the top of your head). The strip they take from the back of your head ends up being the most painful part and the part that takes longest to heal.

    So here's what happens. They transplant the hair, the hair they transplant falls of (ALL of it, a reaction due to the shock the hair experiences), however the transplanted roots stay in place. After 3 months approximately the permanent hair starts growing out again. I'm only at the month and a half mark but I'm already starting the re-growth stage. Oh your scalp breaks out a lot where they transplant the hair, that's annoying.
  • Timbales

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    Jun 16, 2010 1:36 AM GMT
    good information, guys
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    Jun 16, 2010 1:50 AM GMT
    Ciarsolo saidI had my hairline rebuilt a month and a half ago (yeah hence...all the pictures where I'm wearing a cap recently). I had it done in Mexico for cheap (I had...3500 implants? haggled down to $3500). Process isn't too painful, takes like 7 hours (they dissect a strip of your scalp from the back of your head, which is the donor area, and use those micro grafts on the top of your head). The strip they take from the back of your head ends up being the most painful part and the part that takes longest to heal.

    So here's what happens. They transplant the hair, the hair they transplant falls of (ALL of it, a reaction due to the shock the hair experiences), however the transplanted roots stay in place. After 3 months approximately the permanent hair starts growing out again. I'm only at the month and a half mark but I'm already starting the re-growth stage. Oh your scalp breaks out a lot where they transplant the hair, that's annoying.


    Yep and your so cute too.

    Down here in the States about $5 to $6 per micro and usually 1000 only micros at a time.

    South of the border $,75 to $1.00 per micro and 3000 to 4000 micros per session. Big difference.

    Ciarsolo a year from now you should look more stunning, hard to believe icon_cool.gif
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    Jun 16, 2010 1:56 AM GMT
    Hah, well I could've only afforded it in Mexico icon_razz.gif (though they have so many American clients that they do try to sell them the procedure for a higher price, but you can haggle anything Mexico, interestingly enough especially procedures like this).

    Definitely the waiting part is the most annoying part. The physical pain you forget a few weeks later, but it's like "ok, had this done...now let's wait 6 months to a year to be satisfied".
  • Regina_Guy

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    Jun 16, 2010 3:09 AM GMT
    Ciarsolo saidI had my hairline rebuilt a month and a half ago (yeah hence...all the pictures where I'm wearing a cap recently). I had it done in Mexico for cheap (I had...3500 implants? haggled down to $3500). Process isn't too painful, takes like 7 hours (they dissect a strip of your scalp from the back of your head, which is the donor area, and use those micro grafts on the top of your head). The strip they take from the back of your head ends up being the most painful part and the part that takes longest to heal.

    So here's what happens. They transplant the hair, the hair they transplant falls of (ALL of it, a reaction due to the shock the hair experiences), however the transplanted roots stay in place. After 3 months approximately the permanent hair starts growing out again. I'm only at the month and a half mark but I'm already starting the re-growth stage. Oh your scalp breaks out a lot where they transplant the hair, that's annoying.


    Thanks for the info. So as far as I know, after a couple of weeks, the hair that is transplanted falls out, and it looks like it used to before the transplant. Do you still have visible signs of the procedure?
  • chgobuzz1

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    Jun 16, 2010 3:45 AM GMT
    Why do the surgery at all when so many are shaving their heads anyway ? Plus in about 10 years there will be hair cloning type treatments. Any type of tranplant leaves scars in the donor area and then you are limited in how short the hair can ever be cut. I did it and I know. Please dont do it.
    Check out slybaldguys.com for more transplant regrets and a very positve view of just buzzing/shaving it off. You are a great looking guy, you dont need hair to be hot and feel confident. How many shaved/buzzed guys do you see everyday ? At least try a tight buzz before you scar your head.
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    Jun 16, 2010 3:49 AM GMT
    chgobuzz1 said Any type of tranplant leaves scars in the donor area and then you are limited in how short the hair can ever be cut. I did it and I know. Please dont do it.


    Depends how skilled your surgeon is. Mine is veritably invisible, and I wear that part of my hair super short. I shaved my head for an entire year. It wasn't for me.

    Regina_Guy said
    Thanks for the info. So as far as I know, after a couple of weeks, the hair that is transplanted falls out, and it looks like it used to before the transplant. Do you still have visible signs of the procedure?


    The hair won't fall all out at once, so it doesn't ever quite look like before the transplant. Also some of your other hair will also fall out due to shock, but that also grows back. Oh yeah you'll get a copper based shampoo you'll have to use for a couple weeks to prevent scabbing on the transplanted area, or rather to dissolve the little scabs that form around each transplant. You'll need to wear a surgical cap to bed for the first week. Oh and the first two days it's very hard to sleep because you can't lay down your head, you have to sort of sleep upright. That discomfort will gradually go down, but stick around in some for for about a month.

    edit- Haha I almost forgot this one, you'll face will swell for about a week. This one is NOT PRETTY.
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    Jun 16, 2010 4:07 AM GMT
    The strip technique is kind of old. It's main advantage is speed and cost. The disadvantage is the scar left in the back and the pain and tightness for several months while the area heals.

    There is a newer technique, called Follicular Unit Extraction, where individual follicles are extracted with a sort of hole-punch tool. Since it doesn't require cutting out a whole strip, there is no visible scar. The disadvantage is cost, as the extraction part is much more labor intensive.

    The best results I've seen so far, have actually been from non-surgical solutions. There's a technique where a wig is glued on with surgical glue and stays glued for an entire month. People can bathe, swim, sweat, etc. and it won't come off. A friend of mine had it done several years ago and it looked amazingly real. We also had the chance to test it in incredibly strong winds and it doesn't come off. The main hassle is having to go to the clinic to have it removed and reglued once a month, but it's basically a trip to the clinic instead of to your regular hair salon.

    In the near future, hair multiplication and hair cloning will hopefully become the norm. Those techniques offer the promise of no scars and an endless and cheap supply of follicles. There are also companies working on automating the process using machines, so there will probably be transplants with tens of thousands of follicles in the future.
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    Jun 16, 2010 4:32 AM GMT
    SeaSon saidThe strip technique is kind of old. It's main advantage is speed and cost. The disadvantage is the scar left in the back and the pain and tightness for several months while the area heals.

    There is a newer technique, called Follicular Unit Extraction, where individual follicles are extracted with a sort of hole-punch tool. Since it doesn't require cutting out a whole strip, there is no visible scar. The disadvantage is cost, as the extraction part is much more labor intensive.

    The best results I've seen so far, have actually been from non-surgical solutions. There's a technique where a wig is glued on with surgical glue and stays glued for an entire month. People can bathe, swim, sweat, etc. and it won't come off. A friend of mine had it done several years ago and it looked amazingly real. We also had the chance to test it in incredibly strong winds and it doesn't come off. The main hassle is having to go to the clinic to have it removed and reglued once a month, but it's basically a trip to the clinic instead of to your regular hair salon.

    In the near future, hair multiplication and hair cloning will hopefully become the norm. Those techniques offer the promise of no scars and an endless and cheap supply of follicles. There are also companies working on automating the process using machines, so there will probably be transplants with tens of thousands of follicles in the future.


    Even the ( FUE ) has been around awhile. Whether they use the strip or FUE the results and remaining scars are associated with how good the surgeon and his team.

    As far as best results of surgery vs non surgical methods, you haven't seen Dr. Massimo's results and patients. I nit piked these guys heads and could not find any scars. Plus they had a thick head of hair. I've seen what you are talking about and guys that have had hair woven into the scalp. Not Not the same.
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    Jun 16, 2010 5:45 AM GMT
    Brazil is known for having some amazing plastic surgeons, but the problem with hair transplants is the techniques themselves. They're limited because of the relatively small number of follicles that can be transplanted from a donor area. You would need to transplant several tens of thousands of follicles to create a true youthful hairline in someone who's completely bald.

    The photos on Dr. Cesana's website are impressive in terms of the density he achieves:
    http://www.folicular.com/fotos.htm

    However, he still leaves large areas in the temple region without any hair. A youthful hairline should have hair there as well.

    I'm not against hair transplants. They just rarely achieve a completely youthful hairline. Non-surgical techniques are more of a hassle on a day-to-day basis, but some of them look more complete IMO.
  • 1man

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    Jun 16, 2010 12:49 PM GMT
    I've had it done, many regrets. DON'T DO IT.
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    Jun 16, 2010 1:45 PM GMT
    I did in November. My hair is very thick but became very thin in the front and almost bald on the crown. I did not like the way it looked because there was such a huge difference in the density from sides, back and top. Ok I’m vane but hey, that is all I’ve had done and thought it would help frame my face better. I really envy you guys who can pull off the bald or thinning hair look. I don’t think I could. It takes a full year for a transplant to mature and I’m at the seven month point. Experts say the most explosive growth and thickening occurs in months eight through ten. I have hair where I did not before but is it still not dense enough at this point in my opinion to be cosmetically acceptable. The procedure has been ultra refined in the past ten years where it is completely undetectable. If you select a good surgeon you will have nothing to worry about as far as the naturalness of it is concerned. Density is another issue. Most guys need a second pass to achieve the density they desire. I can’t stress enough how important it is to get a good doctor. I flew to Minneapolis and went to Dr. Shapiro who is one of the best in the world. Hasson and Wong in Vancouver is also top in the world. Here is a website that is a great resource for hair transplants and lists a coalition of doctors who have passed stringent standards to be included on the list. http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/

    FUT (follicular unit transplantation) is what most doctors use now which has progressed from the mini-grafts in the 1990’s. The hair is removed from the donor area and separated down to one, two, three and four hairs under a microscope. They are strategically placed in the recipient area by a skilled surgeon. The surgeon’s artistic ability is as important as anything else in this procedure. I would select from some of the doctors in the coalition from the website I provided you and look carefully at their before and after photos on their website. You will be able to narrow it down to two or three quickly. Then show your friends the finalists and garner their opinions as to which they like the best. The donor scar has been perfected to the point where when it fades in a year you will be hard pressed to see it even if you are looking. Even after seven months I can barely see mine even when looking. They have a way now of sewing up the incision so that hair grows from it which even further camouflage an already small scar. Mine is pencil thin and the same color as the rest of my skin. FUE (follicular unit extraction) is twice the price and has a much lower graft survival rate as FUT.

    As tempting as it would be to have a hairline recreated that matched what you had when you were 20 it is not a good idea. First it is probably not possible because it would take more grafts than you have available. Secondly, as you get older it will look odd to have hair that thick since 99.9% of men don’t. The key is to create a hairline that matches your age down the road and that will look natural. These are the basics. As I said I still have about five months to go before I can say if this was a success or not and not everyone progresses at the same speed. Some are slow growers and take up to 18 months to mature. I hope this helps and please keep us posted.
  • Regina_Guy

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    Jun 16, 2010 3:08 PM GMT
    Wow guys, tons to think about. Doesn't sound as cut and dry as I was hoping. It sure puts things into perspective to hear people talk about their experiences. Maybe I'll wait a couple of years and see if I feel the same way about it.

    Thanks for sharing your stories boys!
  • Regina_Guy

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    Jun 16, 2010 3:14 PM GMT
    viveutvivas saidThis guy does the FUE transplants (i.e., no big scar in the back) and is supposedly very good at restoring youthful hairlines.

    http://www.alviarmanihairtransplants.com/results/hair-transplant-photos.aspx

    When I was looking into this, he's the one whose results looked most natural to me.


    Wow, those are great results! There seems to be so many pros an cons to having the procedure done. I would hate to spend all that money (not to mention all the suffering) and end up with something that doesn't look natural. That scares the hell out of me. I think I'll wait a couple of years until I have a bit more money saved up and try to go to someone who is well known. Who knows, maybe by then they'll have better ways of restoring hair.
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    Jun 16, 2010 4:18 PM GMT
    I plan to go bald gracefully when that time comes. Nothing wrong with baldness or receding hairlines. Just please, no combovers!!!
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    Jun 16, 2010 5:00 PM GMT
    viveutvivas saidThis guy does the FUE transplants (i.e., no big scar in the back) and is supposedly very good at restoring youthful hairlines.

    http://www.alviarmanihairtransplants.com/results/hair-transplant-photos.aspx

    When I was looking into this, he's the one whose results looked most natural to me.


    Check out what is said about this doctor at the Hair Transplant Network. Be very careful.
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    Jun 16, 2010 5:05 PM GMT
    Nope, but I know someone whose got too much free time, wigs and outfits to shake a stick at! Maybe you can borrow one of his when you wanna look like a hippy, redneck or professional?
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    Jun 16, 2010 6:03 PM GMT
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    viveutvivas saidThis guy does the FUE transplants (i.e., no big scar in the back) and is supposedly very good at restoring youthful hairlines.

    http://www.alviarmanihairtransplants.com/results/hair-transplant-photos.aspx

    When I was looking into this, he's the one whose results looked most natural to me.


    Check out what is said about this doctor at the Hair Transplant Network. Be very careful.


    Oh, I see. He seems to have a lot of negative feedback here:

    http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/showthread.php?t=136503&highlight=armani
  • chgobuzz1

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    Jun 18, 2010 5:37 AM GMT
    The point I wanted to make as someone who has spent far too much on transplants and been through 3 doctors... is that in todays world as opposed to the one many of us grew up in, being bald is considered in style, normal, another kind of haircut you see everyday. Unless you are butt ugly, dozens of pounds overweight etc. most guys will look good shaved bald or buzzed super close. I saw two guys at the gym tonight who have no apparent hair loss yet totally buzzed to the skin or maybe shaved smooth just 2 days ago with a shadow now. They each looked great and obviously wanted that bald look haircut. They are super sexy that way and wore it confidently. Neither one was model material but were hot all the same. I spent many thousands of dollars and 10 years having procedures done. I lost track of how many, maybe 18...I have a great undectable hairline I had 3 different doctors work on to perfect. But now I choose to buzz it down to near stubble because I like the look and feel and am no longer insecure about hairloss. The back/sides of my head have super thin hair because half of it was moved to the top & front. In my 20's I was terrified of looking like my dad and feeling my whole life would fail due to hair loss. Before you get caught up in this transplant thing take a look at your face and see if there is something there to be done to give you more confidence...like a nose job, chin impant, cheekbone implants, skin therapy or just workout more. In todays world these transplant docs are taking your money and taking advantage of insecurities we all have and enriching themselves at your expense. If I had known the future would be so full of shaved heads there is no way I would have done transplants, no matter how little scarring in the back or perfection in the front. Check out slybaldguys.com for info and discussion from guys who shave/buzz, even some who have no hair loss and love being bald. Plus the day will come,maybe 10 or 20 years from now when hair cloninig really will be here or stem cell based follicle creation. But the day is here NOW when baldness is not seen as a negative at all by most people. You dont have to shave smooth either. A super tight buzz is hot even with hair loss. I buzz my own every week and love it.