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    Jun 16, 2010 1:41 PM GMT
    forget arizona. forget BP. boycott mcdonalds (in america, at least):

    the homophobic COO

    it's not like i eat there very often (twice a year, maybe)...but as long as this yahoo is COO, it'll be never now. pass it on.
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    Jun 16, 2010 1:46 PM GMT
    Passed it on...to a VERY highly trafficked and politically active (and mostly gay friendly) forum. icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 16, 2010 1:52 PM GMT
    Thanks for that information on McDonald's. My first job was at a local McDonald's and it was one of the worst jobs I've ever had. We used to drop food on the floor, pick it up, and throw it on the grill (and that's a small fraction of what we did). I can't eat at McDonald's.

    Another store to look into is Urban Outfitters (which also owns Antropolgie):

    Over the course of Urban Outfitters' rise to market dominance, [president Hayne has bled all the politics, left-wing or otherwise, out of his business dealings. "As a company, we don't contribute to any cause except noncontroversial things like a breast cancer walk," he says. "I don't know anybody who is for breast cancer."

    Yet Hayne himself is an ardent Republican. He is a financial supporter of arch conservative Sen. Rick Santorum, whose recent comments about homosexuals equated gay sex with incest and bestiality.

    When PW asks Hayne about his financial support of Santorum, he initially denies it. And when presented with a computer printout of Santorum's campaign donors from the Center for Responsive Politics website--which cites a $4,650 contribution from Urban Outfitters--he responds: "I'll have to look into this. I don't think this is right." In fact, he and his wife have contributed $13,150 to Santorum and Santorum's Political Action Committee over the years.


    http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news-and-opinion/cover-story/clothes_make_the_man-38368134.html?page=1&comments=1&showAll=
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    Jun 16, 2010 1:52 PM GMT
    btw, that quote came from an interview with the chicago tribune...it can be found here:

    page 3 of a 6 page interview...

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    Jun 16, 2010 2:21 PM GMT
    interesting...evidently, as a corporation, mcdonald's is very gay friendly

    HRC stats on employee benefits

    so is this guy a loose canon, pandering to the religious right (and hoping they eat there after church on wednesday nights) or does he really believe what he says?

    seems to be a disconnect that the COO would say this publicly while demonstrating support for gay employees...
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    Jun 16, 2010 4:15 PM GMT


    Fast food suxs anyway. Haven't touched the stuff in over 20yrs
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    Jun 16, 2010 4:18 PM GMT
    rangard saidinteresting...evidently, as a corporation, mcdonald's is very gay friendly

    HRC stats on employee benefits

    so is this guy a loose canon, pandering to the religious right (and hoping they eat there after church on wednesday nights) or does he really believe what he says?

    seems to be a disconnect that the COO would say this publicly while demonstrating support for gay employees...
    Yeah, I noticed that while doing some more research into this.
    I'll be interested in hearing from the gay managers and employees. It wouldn't surprise me if there's an eventual walk-out and/or protest.
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    Jun 16, 2010 4:23 PM GMT
    WTF guys! That didn't sound homophobic at all:

    "I've never shied away from the fact that I'm a Christian. I have my own personal beliefs and I don't impose those on anybody else. I've been in countries where the majority of the people in the country don't believe in a deity or they may be atheist. Or the majority of the country is Muslim. Or it may be the majority is much younger skewed. So when you look at all these differences, it's not that I'm to be the judge or the jury relative to right or wrong. Having said that, at McDonald's, there are core values we stand for and the world is getting much closer. So we have a lot of conversations. We're going to make some mistakes at times. (We talk) about things that may have an implication in one part of the world and may be the cultural norm in another part of the world. And those are things that, yes, we're going to learn from. But, you're right, that commercial won't show in the United States."

    Come on, don't cry bigot! This was not homophobic at all (unless I'm taking things out of context). He just pointed out that France is more gay friendly than the US. WOW big surprise! And as a company, McDonald's is trying to protect their interests: profits.

    McDonald's was not formed to right 'social wrongs.' The ad in France was aired solely to get more gay-friendly customers to buy their products... nothing more.

    Feel free to boycott McDonald's for other reasons though... like for your health.
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    Jun 16, 2010 4:24 PM GMT
    "Having said that, at McDonald's, there are core values we stand for and the world is getting much closer." - Not sure what that last part means, but oh lawdy do they have values.

    Sure you have values... you're poisoning the world with your crappy food.

    The logic works out though, the fat rednecks in the south sure don't wanna eat no gay friendly hamburger!

    Anyone with any brains wouldn't touch that food with a 10 foot pole to begin with. So the bible thumpers are probably overrepresented as a demographic for McD's clientele.

    I wish them all many Big Macs, many clogged arteries and the problem will take care of itself.
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    Jun 16, 2010 4:30 PM GMT
    Is anyone else laughing...

    Mc Donalds went on record saying they consider their French customers/market to be more open minded and have better core values than their american icon_redface.gif
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    Jun 16, 2010 4:40 PM GMT
    I wonder he would like to have all Blacks go back onto slavery.

    Noah's Curse: the biblical justification of American slavery

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d.html/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1276706218&a=0195313070&sr=8-1
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    Jun 16, 2010 4:47 PM GMT
    conscienti1984 saidWTF guys! That didn't sound homophobic at all:


    i used "homophobic" to get all ya'll's attention. icon_biggrin.gif

    from the statement i wouldn't call him exactly homophobic, but clearly he has made a judgment in his mind about it.

    the mcDs ad in france was about showing that anyone could be gay (not "typical" as defined by common misperceptions) and that at mcDs you could "be yourself." simple, warm and fuzzy message. not militant or even the slightest bit offensive. the kid was cute and there he was with his dad having dinner together. aw shucks, family values that the most stalwart baptist could sign on to.

    so, no, he may not be psychotically anti-gay, but he is anti-gay and he used his professional position at mcDs as a political bully pulpit. shameless and at very least unprofessional...ESPECIALLY in light of the fact that mcDs official policy is friendly toward gays.

    had this been chik-fil-a it would have been entirely different. i expect this kind of "official" policy from those guys....but not from internationally progressive mcDs. i mean really, do they need the baptists that much in this country?
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    Jun 16, 2010 4:52 PM GMT
    But I do so love my Chicken Selects with ranch.icon_cry.gif
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    Jun 16, 2010 4:52 PM GMT
    I've got someone already.
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    Jun 16, 2010 7:13 PM GMT
    MsclDrew saidIs anyone else laughing...

    Mc Donalds went on record saying they consider their French customers/market to be more open minded and have better core values than their american icon_redface.gif


    Like, duh... In other news, bears are catholic. His statement is almost totally incoherent. Also, he looks like he eats a lot of his product. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 16, 2010 8:28 PM GMT
    But what about all the Moms and Pops that own McDonalds franchises?!
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    Jun 16, 2010 8:29 PM GMT
    rangard saidforget arizona. forget BP. boycott mcdonalds (in america, at least):

    the homophobic COO

    it's not like i eat there very often (twice a year, maybe)...but as long as this yahoo is COO, it'll be never now. pass it on.


    I'm vegan, so no loss there.
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    Jun 16, 2010 10:35 PM GMT
    rangard said
    conscienti1984 saidWTF guys! That didn't sound homophobic at all:


    i used "homophobic" to get all ya'll's attention. icon_biggrin.gif

    from the statement i wouldn't call him exactly homophobic, but clearly he has made a judgment in his mind about it.

    the mcDs ad in france was about showing that anyone could be gay (not "typical" as defined by common misperceptions) and that at mcDs you could "be yourself." simple, warm and fuzzy message. not militant or even the slightest bit offensive. the kid was cute and there he was with his dad having dinner together. aw shucks, family values that the most stalwart baptist could sign on to.

    so, no, he may not be psychotically anti-gay, but he is anti-gay and he used his professional position at mcDs as a political bully pulpit. shameless and at very least unprofessional...ESPECIALLY in light of the fact that mcDs official policy is friendly toward gays.

    had this been chik-fil-a it would have been entirely different. i expect this kind of "official" policy from those guys....but not from internationally progressive mcDs. i mean really, do they need the baptists that much in this country?


    I was following you until the bully pulpit part. He stated facts, and made a business decision based on those facts. It's a smart business decision.

    Remember, it's a business... if you want to boycott them for this, fine by me. But he (and mcDonald's) is not necessarily homophobic based solely on his comment.